Basic JTF ideology for European countries

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[I will write it bit by bit - please tell me your oppinion about it.]

Kahanism for genile countries with taking under account the special situation of Europe after the Holocaust
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That is a very misleading heading!

Since Rabbi kahane never saught to impose himself/kahanism on gentile countries!

JTF does extend kahanism somewhat.. Having an agenda to Save America. I wouldn't call that kahanism though, it's an extention of it, related to the noachide laws no doubt. 

Countries should do what is in their own interest, according to rabbi kahane.  Rabbi Kahane's interest was Israel. He lived there, he was a govt minister there, it's his country. He would have been pleased if all the arabs left israel and came to America.  (perhaps he also said that so that if americans objected, he'd say "well we don't want the arabs anymore than you do!!")

   
The Save America agenda is about righteousness, there are righteous atheists. I don't think G-d is imposed though.. that's not possible.

rabbi kahane never promoted the idea that this is a war with the west against islam.   (though it's true, and undeniable now)   JTF does promote that idea.

rabbi kahane did say that christians should bless israel, not for israel's sake, but for their own sake! As the bible says. He who blesses israel shall be blessed.

rabbi kahane actually felt that it was trying to please the world that was killing israel. So he wanted to cut ties completely! I did read on a good site once that this was his message.. maybe around when he wrote Revolution or Referendum.  And he felt things getting more and more urgent , as the 40 year period was coming to a close. And then he was murdered.

[Ulli]

[I will write it bit by bit - please tell me your oppinion about it.]

Kahanism for genile countries with taking under account the special situation of Europe after the Holocaust
<snip>

That is a very misleading heading!

Since Rabbi kahane never saught to impose himself/kahanism on gentile countries!

JTF does extend kahanism somewhat.. Having an agenda to Save America. I wouldn't call that kahanism though, it's an extention of it, related to the noachide laws no doubt. 

Countries should do what is in their own interest, according to rabbi kahane.  Rabbi Kahane's interest was Israel. He lived there, he was a govt minister there, it's his country. He would have been pleased if all the arabs left israel and came to America.  (perhaps he also said that so that if americans objected, he'd say "well we don't want the arabs anymore than you do!!")

   
The Save America agenda is about righteousness, there are righteous atheists. I don't think G-d is imposed though.. that's not possible.

rabbi kahane never promoted the idea that this is a war with the west against islam.   (though it's true, and undeniable now)   JTF does promote that idea.

rabbi kahane did say that christians should bless israel, not for israel's sake, but for their own sake! As the bible says. He who blesses israel shall be blessed.

rabbi kahane actually felt that it was trying to please the world that was killing israel. So he wanted to cut ties completely! I did read on a good site once that this was his message.. maybe around when he wrote Revolution or Referendum.  And he felt things getting more and more urgent , as the 40 year period was coming to a close. And then he was murdered.

I think you are right. As I wrote this I was not completely aware of Kahanist believe.

I will work on this programm again and correct it.

I think that old fashioned liberalism combined with biblical values is the way to go. But this is my believe and not Rabbi Kahane's.

Of course I wish no good person  that Quranimals will settle down near to him. They belong imo generally to Muslim countries.

Perhaps Rabbi Kahane used it as a rethorical figure, but I really can't believe that he encouraged this type of people to come to the USA.

However I have heard some speeches of him and I have to admit, that I like him.

That he focussed on Israel was the right thing. The power of a man is not endless. You have to make priorities.

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[I will write it bit by bit - please tell me your oppinion about it.]

Kahanism for genile countries with taking under account the special situation of Europe after the Holocaust
<snip>

That is a very misleading heading!

Since Rabbi kahane never saught to impose himself/kahanism on gentile countries!

JTF does extend kahanism somewhat.. Having an agenda to Save America. I wouldn't call that kahanism though, it's an extention of it, related to the noachide laws no doubt. 

Countries should do what is in their own interest, according to rabbi kahane.  Rabbi Kahane's interest was Israel. He lived there, he was a govt minister there, it's his country. He would have been pleased if all the arabs left israel and came to America.  (perhaps he also said that so that if americans objected, he'd say "well we don't want the arabs anymore than you do!!")

   
The Save America agenda is about righteousness, there are righteous atheists. I don't think G-d is imposed though.. that's not possible.

rabbi kahane never promoted the idea that this is a war with the west against islam.   (though it's true, and undeniable now)   JTF does promote that idea.

rabbi kahane did say that christians should bless israel, not for israel's sake, but for their own sake! As the bible says. He who blesses israel shall be blessed.

rabbi kahane actually felt that it was trying to please the world that was killing israel. So he wanted to cut ties completely! I did read on a good site once that this was his message.. maybe around when he wrote Revolution or Referendum.  And he felt things getting more and more urgent , as the 40 year period was coming to a close. And then he was murdered.

I think you are right. As I wrote this I was not completely aware of Kahanist believe.

I will work on this programm again and correct it.

I think that old fashioned liberalism combined with biblical values is the way to go. But this is my believe and not Rabbi Kahane's.

Of course I wish no good person  that Quranimals will settle down near to him. They belong imo generally to Muslim countries.

Perhaps Rabbi Kahane used it as a rethorical figure, but I really can't believe that he encouraged this type of people to come to the USA.

However I have heard some speeches of him and I have to admit, that I like him.

That he focussed on Israel was the right thing. The power of a man is not endless. You have to make priorities.

Neither JTF or Kahane encouraged it
It's the question of arabs of israel moving out of israel, to somewhere else.

But if another place is crazy enough to accept them, then better there than Israel.   No sane country should want them though, that's for sure.

Israel is a small country anyway.

The Save America agenda would certainly be against it! It's a JTF thing. It has many kahanist elements.  Righteous gentiles is not something that rabbi kahane set out to create..  Though if they are righteous, that's good.

For example, talking about the holocaust, (speech in skokie) Rabbi Kahane would say that it's not the gentiles that he blames so much, because he doesn't expect anything more from them. it's the jews that did nothing. The jewish organizations.

rabbi kahane limited his agenda alot because israel was in such imminent danger.  He was a great scholar , and could have studied alot more too, but he didn't write that much halachic stuff..and he campaigned alot.  I'm sure he did so because he felt, that if there is no israel then there will be no yeshivot. This was the history he wrote about, that we should learn from. (he still studied in yeshivot for 15 years - he said 15 years I think, ref- his talk to noachides)

[Ultra Requete]

It's not about Kahanism per se but implemnation of good old Judeo-Christain moral values, Greek estetics and logic and Roman civil law. We must get rid of false enligtement which deified human reason which brought only gulags, guilotines and gass chambers. If Europe is in deep trouble it all becouse french revolution her bastard children nationalism, socalism and secularism it brought. Stoping to siding with enemies of Israel will help too but antisemism is not only western sin. I do think that now all west is cursed.
And Rabii Kahane was wrong on Islam, mayority of anti zionist Jew haters today are not Philistinian or even Arabs. the chabad murderes were pakis or indian muslims. Koranimals just pretended to be fascist or nazi before 1945, later they worked as British alies and after the 1956 they sided with Soviets but since 1979 are they no longer acting as socialists in their own countries. The western leftists are just pawns the icebreakers of global jihad. Islamists are helping them to overthrow the old order only to replace it by sharia not comunism. They did it in Iran after all. Sending the Arabs from Israel to other countries will not help as they can do damage from abroad as well we do live in globalist world unfortunetly. We must strike the traitors fom within first, than enemies from obroad and repent.   

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And Rabii Kahane was wrong on Islam, mayority of anti zionist Jew haters today are not Philistinian or even Arabs. the chabad murderes were pakis or indian muslims.

Rabbi Kahane was only trying to save Israel.  In Israel, it's arabs.

And it's easier to convince people that arabs are a problem, than that a religion is a problem.

Rabbi Kahane spoke in a very practical way. To convince many , and get them to take action. He always went for short answers that worked.

JTF is trying to save Israel and Europe, america, western civilization..   So talks about Islam.. Indeed, it is more accurate to say that it's islam. But certainly at that time, it was easier to convince people that arabs were the problem, after starting all those wars.. Than to say a religion is a problem.  Or militant forms of it.

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And Rabii Kahane was wrong on Islam, mayority of anti zionist Jew haters today are not Philistinian or even Arabs. the chabad murderes were pakis or indian muslims.

Rabbi Kahane was only trying to save Israel.  In Israel, it's arabs.

And it's easier to convince people that arabs are a problem, than that a religion is a problem.

Rabbi Kahane spoke in a very practical way. To convince many , and get them to take action. He always went for short answers that worked.

JTF is trying to save Israel and Europe, america, western civilization..   So talks about Islam.. Indeed, it is more accurate to say that it's islam. But certainly at that time, it was easier to convince people that arabs were the problem, after starting all those wars.. Than to say a religion is a problem.  Or militant forms of it.

If Israel cleans itself from Arabs but Europe and America become Dar al Islam, it would be a very short-live victory for Israel.

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And Rabii Kahane was wrong on Islam, mayority of anti zionist Jew haters today are not Philistinian or even Arabs. the chabad murderes were pakis or indian muslims.

Rabbi Kahane was only trying to save Israel.  In Israel, it's arabs.

And it's easier to convince people that arabs are a problem, than that a religion is a problem.

Rabbi Kahane spoke in a very practical way. To convince many , and get them to take action. He always went for short answers that worked.

JTF is trying to save Israel and Europe, america, western civilization..   So talks about Islam.. Indeed, it is more accurate to say that it's islam. But certainly at that time, it was easier to convince people that arabs were the problem, after starting all those wars.. Than to say a religion is a problem.  Or militant forms of it.

If Israel cleans itself from Arabs but Europe and America become Dar al Islam, it would be a very short-live victory for Israel.

If europe and america become dar al islam, i'm sure israel will be in an even worse situation, if that's even possible.  They'd have made it the heart of dar al islam.

life in europe and america is bad but it's not going to become taken over. The arabs cannot get a majourity.  Arabs/muslims can make life more miserable  but they need numbers in proportion to the area, to be able to take over.

I'm not talking about a child being spoilt by parents.. taking over their lives. (this is how the arabs in europe and america are). I mean taking the keys of the house and running the place.

[ProudAndZionist]

Very good thread, I showed it to my father who is not Jewish, and he agree with all!

[Ulli]

Very good thread, I showed it to my father who is not Jewish, and he agree with all!

Thank you ProudZionist. 

[ProudAndZionist]

You are welcome!

I think, if I make JTF video maybe in Hungarian once, I have to translate it. 

[ProJewCatholic]

A great thing to put up.

[FreedomFighter08]

Europe needs saving. It's now overrun by Affirmative Action Muslims, Socialists, and Nazis.

[Republicandox]

Very good thread, I showed it to my father who is not Jewish, and he agree with all!

Thank you ProudZionist. 

Pheasant, this tread is great. You did an excellent job! I just saw it this evening for the first time.

                                                 Shalom & G-d bless you - Dox

[Ulli]

Thank you Dox 

[D2I]

Well theres one problem with Kach idea,  nobody wants the Palestinian muslims(and who can blame anybody for not wanting  them?)  ,Maby we should relocate the Palestinians muslims to  the north pole?