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Offline Wayne Jude

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Are all White Nationalists evil?
« on: October 21, 2007, 04:04:41 PM »
Are all White nationalists evil,Anti  Jewish, black, or other minority haters, no! I think a lot of people associate white nationalists with nationalists socialists  . They being Nazis. No matter what type one is. Nationalists is not a bad thing. It is just what it sounds like, a nationalist.

Nationalism is a term that refers to a doctrine[1] or political movement[2] that holds that a nation—usually defined in terms of ethnicity or culture—has the right to constitute an independent or autonomous political community based on a shared history and common destiny.[3] Most nationalists believe the borders of the state should be congruent with the borders of the nation.[4] Extreme forms of nationalism, such as those propagated by fascist movements in the twentieth century, hold that nationality is the most important aspect of one's identity and attempt to define the nation in terms of race or genetics.

Nationalism has had an enormous influence on world history. In modern times, the nation-state has become the dominant form of societal organization. Historians use the term nationalism to refer to this historical transition and to the emergence and predominance of nationalist ideology.

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Re: Are all White Nationalists evil?
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2007, 06:57:45 PM »
Of course not all of them are.

You know even the Minutemen were classed as WN  :::D

And they are far from Evil.

I was reading on a forum shoutbox a while ago this diehard WN was telling thy others about  a Jewish forum, I never  got the name of it, he had said he was a member and expected to be banned as he joined.

Sounds like me, its not, no  ;D

Anyway they allowed to stay and he began talking and posting. He now finds that Jewish forum far better.

He by all accounts was even trying to change other WN's ideas about Jews.

Is he evil? In the past He was that narrow minded now he accepted and trying to educate.

he even speaks to members via MSN.

 ???



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Re: Are all White Nationalists evil?
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2007, 07:24:21 PM »
Look, even though European Jews are white, they've had a lot of problems with groups known as white nationalist groups.  99.9% of the time, these groups scape goat Jews.  Being jewish,  I'm leery about these groups too.  I always say, if these white pride groups are so big and bad , go to one of these tough settler towns where the tough and rugged Jews live and give them a try.  Or go to any black inner city and start up trouble there.  Those cowards always get police protection to save their white hides from the blacks. hahahahaha

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Re: Are all White Nationalists evil?
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2007, 09:32:52 PM »
I think there's absolutely nothing wrong with engaging in white christain pride, so long as it doesn't include making everyone outside this demographic an enemy.

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Re: Are all White Nationalists evil?
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2007, 12:46:58 AM »
Even Sfardic Jews are white!



Yup, blue eyes, whitey here.  8;)
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Re: Are all White Nationalists evil?
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2007, 12:51:13 AM »
Not ALL of them are evil, just 95%. 
"The Jews will eventually have to face up to what you're dealing with here.  The arabs will never love you for what good you've brought them.  They don't know how to really love.  But hate!  Oh, G-d, can they hate!  And they have a deep, deep, deep resentment because you have jolted them from their delusions of grandeur and shown them for what they are-a decadent, savage people controlled by a religion that has stripped them of all human ambition . . . except for the few cruel enough and arrogant enough to command them as one commands a mob of sheep.  You are dealing with a mad society and you'd better learn how to control it."

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Re: Are all White Nationalists evil?
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2007, 12:57:51 AM »
I think, every imbecile has the right to be whatever he wants.

Since the Jews have Israel now, they should not worry about somebody being anti-Jewish under whatever label. With Israel's return to the political map of the world, the balance of power has changed.

And thus today being anti-Jewish is not as easy as it used to be before. Today if you are anti-me, I will be anti-you. If you beat my brothers on the streets of Paris, I would strongly recomend you to stay away from the streets of Jerusalem.
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Re: Are all White Nationalists evil?
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2007, 12:59:26 AM »
I think, every imbecile has the right to be whatever he wants.

Since the Jews have Israel now, they should not worry about somebody being anti-Jewish under whatever label. With Israel's return to the political map of the world, the balance of power has changed.

And thus today being anti-Jewish is not as easy as it used to be before. Today if you are anti-me, I will be anti-you. If you beat my brothers on the streets of Paris, I would strongly recomend you to stay away from the streets of Jerusalem.

The power-balance hasn't completely changed.  There are still millions of Jews living in the galut whose lives are affected by anti-Semitism.  There are murders in the U.S., France, Russia, and desecration of synagogues all over the world by these beasts. 
"The Jews will eventually have to face up to what you're dealing with here.  The arabs will never love you for what good you've brought them.  They don't know how to really love.  But hate!  Oh, G-d, can they hate!  And they have a deep, deep, deep resentment because you have jolted them from their delusions of grandeur and shown them for what they are-a decadent, savage people controlled by a religion that has stripped them of all human ambition . . . except for the few cruel enough and arrogant enough to command them as one commands a mob of sheep.  You are dealing with a mad society and you'd better learn how to control it."

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Re: Are all White Nationalists evil?
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2007, 01:08:25 AM »
I think, every imbecile has the right to be whatever he wants.

Since the Jews have Israel now, they should not worry about somebody being anti-Jewish under whatever label. With Israel's return to the political map of the world, the balance of power has changed.

And thus today being anti-Jewish is not as easy as it used to be before. Today if you are anti-me, I will be anti-you. If you beat my brothers on the streets of Paris, I would strongly recomend you to stay away from the streets of Jerusalem.

The power-balance hasn't completely changed.  There are still millions of Jews living in the galut whose lives are affected by anti-Semitism.  There are murders in the U.S., France, Russia, and desecration of synagogues all over the world by these beasts. 

Jews belong in Israel. And hopefully we will all contribute to that.
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Re: Are all White Nationalists evil?
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2007, 02:04:18 AM »
Anyone obsessed with race (genetical) is evil.
If someone says something bad about you, say something nice about them. That way, both of you would be lying.

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Re: Are all White Nationalists evil?
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2007, 02:09:50 AM »
Even Sfardic Jews are white!



Yup, blue eyes, whitey here.  8;)

I hope blonde hair too  ;) ;D

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Re: Are all White Nationalists evil?
« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2007, 06:13:50 AM »
Whoa,Again ,I think were confusing White Nationalists with National socialists.In other circles one is a compliment ,The other is an insult.I guess that was what I was trying to say.I could not in right conscience back anyone with a hateful agenda.But some good post are here as usual. O0

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Re: Are all White Nationalists evil?
« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2007, 06:19:12 AM »
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There are murders in the U.S., France, Russia, and desecration of synagogues all over the world by these beasts. 
Most of these are not by WN they are by moslems maybe in Russia it is but in the other countries it's moslems
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Re: Are all White Nationalists evil?
« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2007, 07:50:49 AM »
I think everyone should look at the meaning of NATIONALIST/NATIONALISM

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Re: Are all White Nationalists evil?
« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2007, 07:53:10 AM »
My point exactly boere!Where you been?Join the Army yet? ;)

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Re: Are all White Nationalists evil?
« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2007, 08:31:42 AM »
heya Wayne.

No not yet im afriad, my studies are commencing shortly, so yes, taking it slowly for the few weeks.

Great to see that youre so active on this great forum my brother  :) ;). It really makes me happy you know.

How's the family? How are you?

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Re: Are all White Nationalists evil?
« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2007, 08:41:55 AM »
It is wrong to be anti-semitic. It is also wrong to believe that your (percieved) racial superiority gives you the right to mistreat others.

However.............

There is NOTHING wrong with being proud of your (white) ethnicity, acknowledging the contributions your culture has made to the world, being proud of your culture, believing in the superiority of your culture (based on evidence) and wanting to protect your culture and society from other cultures that are backward and inferior.

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Re: Are all White Nationalists evil?
« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2007, 08:48:51 AM »
It is wrong to be anti-semitic. It is also wrong to believe that your (percieved) racial superiority gives you the right to mistreat others.

However.............

There is NOTHING wrong with being proud of your (white) ethnicity, acknowledging the contributions your culture has made to the world, being proud of your culture, believing in the superiority of your culture (based on evidence) and wanting to protect your culture and society from other cultures that are backward and inferior.

Bang on the money  O0

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Re: Are all White Nationalists evil?
« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2007, 08:56:40 AM »
Fine bro!The family is fine.Our trees died because of drought and a  late frost.Alot of watermelons though,Ironically.How is your website going?

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Re: Are all White Nationalists evil?
« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2007, 09:10:48 AM »
Im sorry to hear that Brother  :-\ :'( :'(
G-D willing you will have a VERY good year next year  :)

Yeah no, the websites been up a while you know. I updated it a while ago as well. But with the studies, web design comes last you know.

Are you still serving, Wayne?

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« Reply #20 on: October 22, 2007, 09:14:37 AM »
Yeah I re uped for 6 years!Wish I didn't but Im getting back in shape.Lost 20 pounds .Look better than when I was 18.Smile LOl O0

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Re: Are all White Nationalists evil?
« Reply #21 on: October 22, 2007, 09:29:56 AM »
Yeah I re uped for 6 years!Wish I didn't but Im getting back in shape.Lost 20 pounds .Look better than when I was 18.Smile LOl O0

haha, thats excellent Brother!  :) I can't complain, iv'e lost 20 KILOGRAMS !!! Still need to lose another 20 hahaha

So are you enjoying the army?

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Re: Are all White Nationalists evil?
« Reply #22 on: October 22, 2007, 09:35:22 AM »
No I hate it but its all I ever wanted to be .Go figure and hard to explain! :-\

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« Reply #23 on: October 22, 2007, 10:40:49 AM »
No I hate it but its all I ever wanted to be .Go figure and hard to explain! :-\

oh ok, sorry to hear that. So does your plantation require a lot of work?

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Re: Are all White Nationalists evil?
« Reply #24 on: October 22, 2007, 10:43:57 AM »
NO I have 5  kids and my wife and I.