Poll

Should we ban those people who protect Islam?

Yes
10 (58.8%)
No
7 (41.2%)

Total Members Voted: 0

Author Topic: ISLAM  (Read 6161 times)

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline Eugene

  • Junior JTFer
  • **
  • Posts: 75
  • EUGENE
ISLAM
« on: October 11, 2007, 08:44:40 PM »
Yes. We have to ban Nazi Muslim should be banned.
8-) shalom

Offline Tzvi Ben Roshel1

  • Ultimate JTFer
  • *******
  • Posts: 3006
Re: ISLAM
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2007, 08:46:35 PM »
No, free speach. If some1 brings facts then I think it shouldnt be banned.
The Academy of Elijah taught, whoever studies the laws (of the Torah) every day, (he) is guaranteed to have a share in the World to Come.

‏119:139 צִמְּתַתְנִי קִנְאָתִי כִּישָׁכְחוּ דְבָרֶיךָ צָרָי
My zeal incenses me, for my adversaries have forgotten Your words.
‏119:141 צָעִיר אָנֹכִי וְנִבְזֶה פִּקֻּדֶיךָ, לֹא שָׁכָחְתִּי.
 I am young and despised; I have not forgotten Your precepts.

" A fool does not realize, and an unwise person does not understand this (i.e. the following:) When the wicked bloom like grass, and the evildoers blossom (i.e. when they seem extremly successful), it is to destroy them forever (i.e. they are rewarded for their few good deeds in this World, and they will have no portion in the World to Come!)

Please visit: (The Greatest lectures on Earth).
http://torahanytime.com/
http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Yossi_Mizrachi/
http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Zecharia_Wallerstein/

kellymaureen

  • Guest
Re: ISLAM
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2007, 08:55:47 PM »
The facts are all in the koran, haidt and sura, one can read them for themselves....and NEVER believe a muslim who tells you that you dont understand it...that it has to be read in arabic to be true, or that we are just silly infidels who cant understand that "great book", or any of the other reasons they come up with to tell us we "just dont understand'  its all BS.


Offline Eugene

  • Junior JTFer
  • **
  • Posts: 75
  • EUGENE
Re: ISLAM
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2007, 09:06:54 PM »
The facts are all in the koran, haidt and sura, one can read them for themselves....and NEVER believe a muslim who tells you that you dont understand it...that it has to be read in arabic to be true, or that we are just silly infidels who cant understand that "great book", or any of the other reasons they come up with to tell us we "just dont understand'  its all BS.



Great or not Great But the Bs In there kill the infidel on the way of allah or Oh those who belived you should not make freinds jew or christian or they are brother between in each but not muslims I think they all should be banned from country and other I only read 10 chapters and it was enough for me to "LOVE" them and one thing i dont understand. Now if I am not mistaken in Bible says that Abraham made muslims through Ismail and through him Made that Animal Muhamed.
8-) shalom

Offline Tzvi Ben Roshel1

  • Ultimate JTFer
  • *******
  • Posts: 3006
Re: ISLAM
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2007, 11:24:24 PM »
Arabs were the way they are without the koran, I dont need to defend it and am not going to, but the problem isnt the koran necessarily but its them. They act the way they do becuase they are peri adam- like a man but really animals. Islam is a weapon not the underlying problem necessarily.
The Academy of Elijah taught, whoever studies the laws (of the Torah) every day, (he) is guaranteed to have a share in the World to Come.

‏119:139 צִמְּתַתְנִי קִנְאָתִי כִּישָׁכְחוּ דְבָרֶיךָ צָרָי
My zeal incenses me, for my adversaries have forgotten Your words.
‏119:141 צָעִיר אָנֹכִי וְנִבְזֶה פִּקֻּדֶיךָ, לֹא שָׁכָחְתִּי.
 I am young and despised; I have not forgotten Your precepts.

" A fool does not realize, and an unwise person does not understand this (i.e. the following:) When the wicked bloom like grass, and the evildoers blossom (i.e. when they seem extremly successful), it is to destroy them forever (i.e. they are rewarded for their few good deeds in this World, and they will have no portion in the World to Come!)

Please visit: (The Greatest lectures on Earth).
http://torahanytime.com/
http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Yossi_Mizrachi/
http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Zecharia_Wallerstein/

ftf

  • Guest
Re: ISLAM
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2007, 09:05:38 PM »
Arabs were the way they are without the koran, I dont need to defend it and am not going to, but the problem isnt the koran necessarily but its them. They act the way they do becuase they are peri adam- like a man but really animals. Islam is a weapon not the underlying problem necessarily.
Say what you will, not all arabs supported Muhammad, he had to kill a lot of them, not all of todays arabs are anti-semitic, the issue is not one of race.

Offline Ehud

  • Master JTFer
  • ******
  • Posts: 2476
Re: ISLAM
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2007, 09:11:35 PM »
I say no, but it matters HOW they are defending Islam.  If they are defending it in legitimate ways (I can't really think of any myself but there COULD be some) then there isn't a problem, but if they are defending it by telling us what we know to be lies and engaging in taqiyya, they should definitely be banned.  I voted a no for the blanket, all-inclusive statement.
"The Jews will eventually have to face up to what you're dealing with here.  The arabs will never love you for what good you've brought them.  They don't know how to really love.  But hate!  Oh, G-d, can they hate!  And they have a deep, deep, deep resentment because you have jolted them from their delusions of grandeur and shown them for what they are-a decadent, savage people controlled by a religion that has stripped them of all human ambition . . . except for the few cruel enough and arrogant enough to command them as one commands a mob of sheep.  You are dealing with a mad society and you'd better learn how to control it."

-Excerpt from The Haj by Leon Uris

ftf

  • Guest
Re: ISLAM
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2007, 09:21:00 PM »
If a muslim comes here, it is beneficial to our cause if we treat them with respect while pointing out that their religion is rubbish, if they try to use taqqiya we should call them up on it with quotes from their books, if we ban them, they will call us cowards, if we use personal insults, they will call us children.

Offline Dan

  • Moderator
  • Ultimate JTFer
  • *
  • Posts: 4308
Re: ISLAM
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2007, 10:25:02 PM »
BAN 'EM!
Certain things are NOT open for discussion... Are we going to defend  Nazi's next?!

Offline Mstislav

  • Master JTFer
  • ******
  • Posts: 1161
  • islam must be eradicated & all muslims wiped out
    • The American Infidels
Re: ISLAM
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2007, 11:22:30 PM »
If they want to debate, fine. Those who know what islam is should debate them using passages from the koran, sunna & hadiths. muzzies do not back up their claims with their own sources and they always digress. If a muslim does post something, they conveniently leave out some details thereby engaging in taqiyya & kitman. Sometimes they, along with their leftist traitorous allies, will post Judeo-Christian scripture to denigrate HaShem, Judaism and Christianity. It is funny how muslims accuse those who bring to light the unsavoury aspects of islam of 'taking things out of context' - amongst other things. They never explain what it is that is being taken out of context. If they can debate in a civilized manner, not engage in taqiyya & kitman, not digress, not engage in 'tu qouque' (the 'you too' excuse), not try to justify and downplay the barbarity taught in islam then I have no problem with letting them stay. We are on the side of truth and follow in the guidence of HaShem. Trust in Him and you will overcome many obstacles. Fight the lies with truth and many more will wake from their slumber and will warn others of the true face of islam. Sadly, we will not be able to win them all and some may even convert to it. Be eZrat HaShem, some will see the errors of their ways and correct themselves. The rest, Well, you know what happens when you play with fire. :) With muzzies, they will kill you for refusing to convert and even if you do, they will kill you for being in the wrong sect.

« Last Edit: October 13, 2007, 11:59:04 PM by Mstislav »
The satanic barbaric deathcult of islam spread like a cancer throughout the world, killing and destroying everything it touches. muslims are like the hiv/aids virus, subverting the societies of non muslim lands only to allow the cancer of islam to consume and destroy. muslim, I curse and hate you, your 'prophet', 'g o d' and deathcult.   
__________________________________________________________


Because the West needs to be won again and the stakes couldn't be higher . . .

newman

  • Guest
Re: ISLAM
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2007, 11:28:09 PM »
No. Let's just insult the hell out of them.

kellymaureen

  • Guest
Re: ISLAM
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2007, 11:54:14 PM »
Quote
No. Let's just insult the hell out of them.

Well they ARE offended by every little stinking thing....

Its so amazing that the most offensive people on earth, can be offended by everything.

newman

  • Guest
Re: ISLAM
« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2007, 12:02:11 AM »
Quote
No. Let's just insult the hell out of them.

Well they ARE offended by every little stinking thing....

Its so amazing that the most offensive people on earth, can be offended by everything.

Yeah!

They advocate chopping off hands & heads, mutilation of girls' privates and death or forced conversion for everybody..........yet they're offended by US?????

Offline Mstislav

  • Master JTFer
  • ******
  • Posts: 1161
  • islam must be eradicated & all muslims wiped out
    • The American Infidels
Re: ISLAM
« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2007, 12:07:07 AM »
Quote
No. Let's just insult the hell out of them.

Well they ARE offended by every little stinking thing....

Its so amazing that the most offensive people on earth, can be offended by everything.

Yeah!

They advocate chopping off hands & heads, mutilation of girls' privates and death or forced conversion for everybody..........yet they're offended by US?????

Ahh the irony and hypocrisy of islam!!
The satanic barbaric deathcult of islam spread like a cancer throughout the world, killing and destroying everything it touches. muslims are like the hiv/aids virus, subverting the societies of non muslim lands only to allow the cancer of islam to consume and destroy. muslim, I curse and hate you, your 'prophet', 'g o d' and deathcult.   
__________________________________________________________


Because the West needs to be won again and the stakes couldn't be higher . . .

ftf

  • Guest
Re: ISLAM
« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2007, 11:26:14 AM »
BAN 'EM!
Certain things are NOT open for discussion... Are we going to defend  Nazi's next?!
If we ban them, we lose the chance to humiliate them in open debate.

Offline Husar

  • Ultimate JTFer
  • *******
  • Posts: 3240
  • I drink wine out of nazis' skulls.
Re: ISLAM
« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2007, 07:01:13 AM »

Drawings about mooohhhammmad and isssssslaaaaam:


http://www.zombietime.com/mohammed_image_archive/extreme_mohammed/


 :)
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
--

CcCc

Offline HiWarp

  • Master JTFer
  • ******
  • Posts: 1867
Re: ISLAM
« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2007, 08:09:12 AM »
I say bring them on.  I welcome any Muslim who can debate and defend Islam in a truthful and logical manner.  Haven't found any yet, though.
"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny;
when the government fears the people, there is liberty.”
---Thomas Jefferson

Offline Ultra Requete

  • Master JTFer
  • ******
  • Posts: 2383
  • United We Stand, Dived We'll Fall.
Re: ISLAM
« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2007, 10:49:49 AM »
Well when you found one not engaging in insults an/or taqiya let me know. ::) I'm sure they're good nazis somewhere too; and the moon is made from cheese. :::D
Jeremiah 8:11-17

11 They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. Peace, peace, they say, when there is no peace.

12 Are they ashamed of their loathsome conduct? No, they have no shame at all; they do not even know how to blush. So they will fall among the fallen; they will be brought down when they are punished, says the LORD.

13 'I will take away their harvest, declares the LORD. There will be no grapes on the vine. There will be no figs on the tree, and their leaves will wither. What I have given them will be taken from them.'

14 Why are we sitting here? Gather together! Let us flee to the fortified cities and perish there! For the LORD our God has doomed us to perish and given us poisoned water to drink, because we have sinned against him.

15 We hoped for peace but no good has come, for a time of healing but there was only terror.

16 The snorting of the enemy's horses is heard from Dan; at the neighing of their stallions the whole land trembles. They have come to devour the land and everything in it, the city and all who live there.

17 See, I will send venomous snakes among you, vipers that cannot be charmed, and they will bite you, declares the LORD.

Love your Enemy
And Heap Burning Coals on his Head!!!
http://net-burst.net/revenge/love_and_wrath_of_God.htm

kellymaureen

  • Guest
Re: ISLAM
« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2007, 01:03:50 PM »
Ive debated some who were, for a while anyhow, calm and rather pleasant, however once they realize that you DO know what youre talking about, the mask comes off and the threats start.

Offline Husar

  • Ultimate JTFer
  • *******
  • Posts: 3240
  • I drink wine out of nazis' skulls.
Re: ISLAM
« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2007, 05:47:07 PM »
kellymaureen, for your sake,
if you are to "debate" with one of these zombies,
Sister, do it anonymously.

Do not let them know anything about you.

THERE'S EVEN NO NEED TO "DEBATE" WITH THEM.

In Serbia we say:
"OUR FIVE MINUTS (of revenge) WILL COME."

Let us debate, here, among us,
since we can use JTF as a THINKTANK.

Our enemies just need one thing from us: an atomisation.

 :)
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
--

CcCc

Offline Ultra Requete

  • Master JTFer
  • ******
  • Posts: 2383
  • United We Stand, Dived We'll Fall.
Re: ISLAM
« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2007, 05:17:04 AM »
kellymaureen, for your sake,
if you are to "debate" with one of these zombies,
Sister, do it anonymously.

Do not let them know anything about you.

THERE'S EVEN NO NEED TO "DEBATE" WITH THEM.

In Serbia we say:
"OUR FIVE MINUTS (of revenge) WILL COME."

Let us debate, here, among us,
since we can use JTF as a THINKTANK.

Our enemies just need one thing from us: an atomisation.

 :)

Amen to that; although I cannot resist to put a few punches on them on you tube. ;) O0
Jeremiah 8:11-17

11 They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. Peace, peace, they say, when there is no peace.

12 Are they ashamed of their loathsome conduct? No, they have no shame at all; they do not even know how to blush. So they will fall among the fallen; they will be brought down when they are punished, says the LORD.

13 'I will take away their harvest, declares the LORD. There will be no grapes on the vine. There will be no figs on the tree, and their leaves will wither. What I have given them will be taken from them.'

14 Why are we sitting here? Gather together! Let us flee to the fortified cities and perish there! For the LORD our God has doomed us to perish and given us poisoned water to drink, because we have sinned against him.

15 We hoped for peace but no good has come, for a time of healing but there was only terror.

16 The snorting of the enemy's horses is heard from Dan; at the neighing of their stallions the whole land trembles. They have come to devour the land and everything in it, the city and all who live there.

17 See, I will send venomous snakes among you, vipers that cannot be charmed, and they will bite you, declares the LORD.

Love your Enemy
And Heap Burning Coals on his Head!!!
http://net-burst.net/revenge/love_and_wrath_of_God.htm

Offline Husar

  • Ultimate JTFer
  • *******
  • Posts: 3240
  • I drink wine out of nazis' skulls.
Re: ISLAM
« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2007, 09:18:34 AM »
We all punch them on YouTube.

 ;)

I suggest letting islacannibals come here, in Jtf forum,
WE INSULT them to the bone,
and WE BAN them fastly,
after OUR INSULTS.

 :)
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
--

CcCc