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Offline Barach Velvel ben Lazer Eliazer

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Re: Liberals and free speech
« Reply #25 on: October 30, 2007, 03:11:24 AM »
Not everything is so black and white. This organization even has a tad of liberalism. Our policy on foreign energy would be considered very liberal.
That's not liberal. How is it liberal to believe that the US should create a crash program to develop alternative energies?

You must be thinking this because John Edwards has stated that he wants to do just that, but he won't. He's a Muslim Nazi symathizer, who wouldn't want to see their economies collapse.

Engery independence will give the US independence, which is exactly what the Founding Fathers wanted us to have. And that is what makes this a right-wing policy. True right-wingers are for independence and following exactly what the Founding Father expected of this country.

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Re: Liberals and free speech
« Reply #26 on: October 31, 2007, 09:17:39 PM »

Libertarians aren't as dangerous as liberals, because they're so few of them, but they are still insane. They want no government at all! They believe that the people are able to govern themselves! This is unconstitutional. The Constitution states that the US must have a government, and only a government of federalism.




I think there some libertarians support the UN which wouldn't make sense because that's a form of big government--international. 


I think some libertaians oppose Roe V. Wade because it violated the constitution but there are probably some who support it.  Are libertarians supposed to always be "pro-choice" on issues?

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Re: Liberals and free speech
« Reply #27 on: October 31, 2007, 10:32:54 PM »

Libertarians aren't as dangerous as liberals, because they're so few of them, but they are still insane. They want no government at all! They believe that the people are able to govern themselves! This is unconstitutional. The Constitution states that the US must have a government, and only a government of federalism.




I think there some libertarians support the UN which wouldn't make sense because that's a form of big government--international. 


I think some libertaians oppose Roe V. Wade because it violated the constitution but there are probably some who support it.  Are libertarians supposed to always be "pro-choice" on issues?
I've read some libertarian literature that has stated that federal and state government is unnecessary, and that the US can function without them. They view government as a restriction.

The difference between a liberal and a libertarian is that liberals want to overthrow the ruling establishment and replace it with a dictatorship, and libertarians don't want leaders.

 It's quite sad that liberals call President Bush a dictator, yet, their big government ideals will bring about the reign of a dictator.

We need a federal government. It would be unconstitutional to not have one. Plus, without government the country would collapse under total chaos.

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Re: Liberals and free speech
« Reply #28 on: October 31, 2007, 11:33:21 PM »
Conservatives want to have little government control on economic policy and more government control on social policy. Liberals want to have more government control on economic policy and less government control on social policy. Libertarians want less government on both economic and social policies.

Real political position isn't really a two dimensional line of left versus right. It should be plotted on a quadrilateral as illustrated on this web site:

http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html

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Re: Liberals and free speech
« Reply #29 on: November 01, 2007, 12:30:05 AM »
Conservatives want to have little government control on economic policy and more government control on social policy. Liberals want to have more government control on economic policy and less government control on social policy. Libertarians want less government on both economic and social policies.

Real political position isn't really a two dimensional line of left versus right. It should be plotted on a quadrilateral as illustrated on this web site:

http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html
The definition of conservative you gave is not the general definition of a conservative. Conservatives who want heavy government control on social policies are social conservatives, which are very different from far right-wingers.

Far right-wingers want to return to the system of government that was established by the Founding Fathers and is mapped out in the Constitution and the Federalist Papers, with all the correct checks and balances in place.