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Death to pornographers?
davkakach:
--- Quote from: Get thee hence Satan on October 30, 2006, 04:40:05 AM ---I've seen documentaries before, showing you behind the scenes of porno. The women involved (99% of whom are white) absolutely love it. THey get paid loads and are treated like queens. They're just being paid for what they'd do in real life for free anyway.
And for lots of white women, it is their chance to get introduced to black men. White women and black men were made for each other it seems.
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You're hillarious! ;D And also incorrigible... ::)
I disagree with imposing the death penalty without giving prior notice to the offenders. If our society, as a collective, decides to abolish pornography, it must give the people who are engaged in this abominable industry an option to either stop, or move to a different country where pronography is legal. If they refuse, then it makes sense to impose upon them whatever penalty society decides, including capital punishment---doesn't really matter, as long as you lay down clearly the rules and enforce them.
BTW, what do you mean by "pornography"? I know of married couples who use pornography to keep their fantasies and love life vibrant, hence their fidelity to each other. I also know of websites that carry amateur pornographic material produced by couples who film their sexual encounters just for the thrill of it, with no intention to make money from it.
On the whole, abolitioning porn or prostitution is a futile idea; there have always been prostitutes, there has always been infidelity. These are part of the temptations of this world (in addition to food for gluttons, money for greedy people, etc.) that make living a righteous life so challenging. What you should do, instead of abolishing these temptations, is is raise children who are righteous, teach them about the evil temptations surrounding them, and help them build a strong character to resist those temptations, rather than abolish those temptations. If the draconian punishments in Islamic nations couldn't remove moral vice from their societies, then what chance do we have?
When G-d commanded Israel to keep the purity of an army when they go to war against their enemies, G-d didn't broaden his commandment to all of Israeli society. He didn't say, "execute all prostitutes, close down all houses of ill repute". Rather, He commanded to remove all manner of spiritual filth, including sexually-related filth, from an army, so that that army will be pure of heart and earn the assistance of G-d in battle.
Adhering to the existing 613 commandments is challenging enough as it is. I don't see a need to add to them.
Scriabin:
--- Quote from: davkakach on November 01, 2006, 12:33:18 PM ---
--- Quote from: Get thee hence Satan on October 30, 2006, 04:40:05 AM ---I've seen documentaries before, showing you behind the scenes of porno. The women involved (99% of whom are white) absolutely love it. THey get paid loads and are treated like queens. They're just being paid for what they'd do in real life for free anyway.
And for lots of white women, it is their chance to get introduced to black men. White women and black men were made for each other it seems.
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You're hillarious! ;D And also incorrigible... ::)
I disagree with imposing the death penalty without giving prior notice to the offenders. If our society, as a collective, decides to abolish pornography, it must give the people who are engaged in this abominable industry an option to either stop, or move to a different country where pornography is legal. If they refuse, then it makes sense to impose upon them whatever penalty society decides, including capital punishment---doesn't really matter, as long as you lay down clearly the rules and enforce them.
BTW, what do you mean by "pornography"? I know of married couples who use pornography to keep their fantasies and love life vibrant, hence their fidelity to each other. I also know of websites that carry amateur pornographic material produced by couples who film their sexual encounters just for the thrill of it, with no intention to make money from it.
On the whole, abolitioning porn or prostitution is a futile idea; there have always been prostitutes, there has always been infidelity. These are part of the temptations of this world (in addition to food for gluttons, money for greedy people, etc.) that make living a righteous life so challenging. What you should do, instead of abolishing these temptations, is is raise children who are righteous, teach them about the evil temptations surrounding them, and help them build a strong character to resist those temptations, rather than abolish those temptations. If the draconian punishments in Islamic nations couldn't remove moral vice from their societies, then what chance do we have?
When G-d commanded Israel to keep the purity of an army when they go to war against their enemies, G-d didn't broaden his commandment to all of Israeli society. He didn't say, "execute all prostitutes, close down all houses of ill repute". Rather, he commanded to remove all manner of spiritual filth, including sexually-related filth, from an army, so that that army will be pure of heart and earn the assistance of G-d in battle.
Adhering to the existing 613 commandments is challenging enough as it is. I don't see a need to add to them.
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Obviously no one will be charged or penalized for offenses committed before said legislation is passed.
You speak of prostitution, but that is another matter. Pornography is available to ANYONE at any time. Prostitutes are never available to children and neither is prostitution ever exposed to children...but this is another issue.
I understand that the likelihood of such legislation ever being passed is less than zero, but this is a moral question more than anything else.
I am not a Jew and so I would like to ask, what did the Prophets say of pornography? Obviously pornography did not exist during the days of prophecy.
davkakach:
I think pornography is included in the general category of "Arayot"---anything that has to do with sex. Most Sifrei Musar (Jewish ethics books) urge a Jew to refrain from even looking at a woman (not to mention depictions of her uncovered).
Rhuan:
--- Quote from: Scriabin on November 01, 2006, 10:21:33 AM ---
--- Quote from: Rhuan on October 31, 2006, 06:08:25 PM ---The death penalty is not something I really agree with, but I do believe that we should make pornography illegal.
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You don't agree with the death penalty?
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If you execute someone, there is always the chance that you have executed the wrong person, it's tooo final. Furthermore, how can anyone have the right to execute someone else? We are all guilty of sin, what makes us better than anyine else?
Whhat gives us the right to say that someone should die for their sins, while not punishing ourselves for the sins that we have committed?
davkakach:
--- Quote from: Rhuan on November 17, 2006, 02:50:59 PM ---
--- Quote from: Scriabin on November 01, 2006, 10:21:33 AM ---
--- Quote from: Rhuan on October 31, 2006, 06:08:25 PM ---The death penalty is not something I really agree with, but I do believe that we should make pornography illegal.
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You don't agree with the death penalty?
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If you execute someone, there is always the chance that you have executed the wrong person, it's tooo final. Furthermore, how can anyone have the right to execute someone else? We are all guilty of sin, what makes us better than anyine else?
Whhat gives us the right to say that someone should die for their sins, while not punishing ourselves for the sins that we have committed?
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If a person is convicted beyond a reasonable doubt, it is safe to execute him. If there is any chance that he did not commit the crime for which he was indicted---it is probably better not to execute him. If you practice Biblical justice, you won't have to worry about the legitimacy of your actions, for the justice you practice will not be man-made.
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