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From a basement in Scandinavia I present ME!
HiWarp:
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--- Quote from: newman link=topic=10783.msg#msg date= ---Nazis 21,000,000 murdered/killed.
Soviets 47,000,000 mudered/killed.
Red China 49,000,000 murdered/killed.
Can't tell you the total for Islam/Judaism/christianity, but It's nowhere near those figures.
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And where are these numbers from? Everyone can write down a number and say: "That's the truth."
And of course you can't see how many humans religion have killed through out history, because it was never recorded, and politics like Marxism, nazism etc. are all made from religious values.
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These are agreed on by all historians and educational institutions. The religions of the ancient world through to 19th century couldn't kill anything like that number due to limited industrial capacity. The worlds population did not boom until the 19th/20th centuries either.
Ask your history teachers/professors if you think I'm making it up.
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If that is true, you must be able to find something for me that I can read.
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Try these for starters.
http://freedomspeace.blogspot.com/2006/05/20th-century-mortacracies.html
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1411041/posts
http://fitstarts.blogspot.com/2006/11/atheist-delusion.html
Eliav:
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A country is NOTHING on it's own. Whatever it is is because of the people who live in it and build it.
Europe is wealthy and advanced because of Europeans.
The muslim countries are backward and poor because of muslims.
Don't you understand that if muslims become the majority in Europe, it will become poor and backward, too?
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Many "Muslim countries" are sitting on massive amounts of oil, which is becoming more and more valuable as of late. So these countries are not really poor per se. It is just that kings and royal families and governments do not give back much of this money most of the time. Look at Iran and Saudi Arabia. Despite both having a very large GDP, the per capita incomes are $8,535 and $21,505, respectively.
But backward, yes indeed! O0
newman:
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A country is NOTHING on it's own. Whatever it is is because of the people who live in it and build it.
Europe is wealthy and advanced because of Europeans.
The muslim countries are backward and poor because of muslims.
Don't you understand that if muslims become the majority in Europe, it will become poor and backward, too?
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Many "Muslim countries" are sitting on massive amounts of oil, which is becoming more and more valuable as of late. So these countries are not really poor per se. It is just that kings and royal families and governments do not give back much of this money most of the time. Look at Iran and Saudi Arabia. Despite both having a very large GDP, the per capita incomes are $8,535 and $21,505, respectively.
But backward, yes indeed! O0
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Wealth from a free natural resource doesn't say anything about a nations cultural value. It is what they produce by innovation and invention that counts.
Case in point:
Israel and Japan have virtually NO natural resources yet they create massive wealth with only the power of their intellect. Muslim wealth is ONLY what has laid in the ground for thousands of years.
Therefore, if 'created' wealth is a measure of a people's/culture's worth islam is sadly lacking.
Eliav:
I believe only 6 of the 49 Muslim majority countries are ahead of Israel in GDP per capita. :::D
newman:
--- Quote from: Eliav on November 06, 2007, 12:31:19 AM ---I believe only 6 of the 49 Muslim majority countries are ahead of Israel in GDP per capita. :::D
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Israel produces more wealth (in pure dollar terms) out of IT and Bio-tech than the Saudis produce in oil!
It's just that out of every IT/Bio-tech dollar there are wages/salaries, marketing, plant/equipment etc leaving 10 cents.
The Saudis get a whacking percntage of each oil barrel and it costs them ZERO!
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