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Lusatian Serbs, Serbs that live in Germany for 1500 years
« on: October 28, 2007, 02:07:34 PM »
This proud and heroic Serbs lived there for 1500 years and stil speak Serbian language and have many of our traditions. I ask here my Serbian friends from this forum and Jewish friends to join their forum in order to build new relationships with this "lost" Serbian tribe O0 8;)
Lets also present here their tradiotions and history 8)

http://www.interserb.de/



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Re: Lusatian Serbs, Serbs that live in Germany for 1500 years
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2007, 02:22:35 PM »
The lusiatian serbs was the first slavic people.

The say to himselve serbs and the germans said it vends or vinds. From the Serbs of East Germany and West Polan daveloped all slavic nations like Polish or Balkan serbs.
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Re: Lusatian Serbs, Serbs that live in Germany for 1500 years
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2007, 02:34:51 PM »
this is beyond awesome, I will visit Lusatia as soon as i can. I have to see my brethren. I urge all serbs/sorbs;) that can, to visit:D
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Re: Lusatian Serbs, Serbs that live in Germany for 1500 years
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2007, 02:59:14 PM »
Quote from: Serbian Cetnik on October 28, 2007, 02:34:51 PM
this is beyond awesome, I will visit Lusatia as soon as i can. I have to see my brethren. I urge all serbs/sorbs;) that can, to visit:D
good, lets help them to stay serbs, you know that german government will close all their schools and force just german language >:( >:(

The present article analyses the problem of peripheriality of Upper and Lower Lusatia and the question of the nation of Lusatian Serbs in the perspective of Stein Rokkan`s theory. The analysed historical countries belonging to the category of enclave peripheries had a peripherial status both in horizontal and vertical dimensions of peripheriality throughout the history. Their key characteristics are distance, dependence and difference. The Lusatian Serbs are the bearer of a different - distinctive identity, which is an important attribute of a periphery. Three domains of social life: politics, economics and culture, in which the peripheriality can exist are subsequently analysed. In political domain the political and administrative division of the Serbian dwelling area and polycephalic net of predominantly German speaking towns is stressed. In economic domain the late industrialisation brought influx of non-Serbian speakers, heightened the influence of German as dominant language standard and thus weakened the peripheral language. In cultural domain the language/educational and religious questions are discussed in detail. The existence of two Serbian language standards was a barrier for the nation culture unification process and the measures reducing the usage of Serbian language at schools endangered the perspective of development of Serbian national identity. The religious Protestant/Catholic division is identified as the third one having impact on the evolution of Lusatian Serbs.

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Re: Lusatian Serbs, Serbs that live in Germany for 1500 years
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2007, 03:04:45 PM »
They call themselves
"Serbi",
not "Sorabs",
not "Wenden",
not "Sorbi".

They are our Serbian Brothers and sisters.

They struggle for their Language, Culture and, simply...Existence.

They are being germanicized.

Let's give them a BROTHERLY HAND.

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"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: Lusatian Serbs, Serbs that live in Germany for 1500 years
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2007, 06:01:35 PM »
Quote from: Husar on October 28, 2007, 03:04:45 PM
They call themselves
"Serbi",
not "Sorabs",
not "Wenden",
not "Sorbi".

They are our Serbian Brothers and sisters.

They struggle for their Language, Culture and, simply...Existence.

They are being germanicized.

Let's give them a BROTHERLY HAND.


I agree, lets help our Serbian brothers in their struggle to survive as Slavs, to keep their language. I joined their forum 8) 8;)
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Re: Lusatian Serbs, Serbs that live in Germany for 1500 years
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2007, 06:20:29 PM »
Do you havn´t read that serbs are the old name for all slavs.

So all slavic people are our brothers and sisters, because their ancestors called himself serbs.


Theoris of the serbian origin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theories_on_the_origin_of_Serbs

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Re: Lusatian Serbs, Serbs that live in Germany for 1500 years
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2007, 06:42:59 PM »
Yes, I have read that "SERB"
is the FIRST EVER name for all the Slavs.
That's why I say "SERBS", "OUR SERBIAN",
in my post above yours.

ESPECIALLY when it comes to the Lusatian SERBS.

IN WHICH WAY DOES THE WORD "SERB" BOTHER YOU ?

 8;)

wolf from Danube,
you should improve your english.
I'm sure you didn't want
to be perceived as (a bit) "brutal".

You wrote:
"all slavic people are our brothers and sisters"...
That's exactly what
NAZICROATS, NAZIBOSNOMUSLIMS,
NAZISLOVENIANS, NAZIBULGARIANS,
and "V.M.R.O." NAZIMACEDONIANS,
"explained" to us Serbs....

 ::)
« Last Edit: October 28, 2007, 06:44:33 PM by Husar »
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"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: Lusatian Serbs, Serbs that live in Germany for 1500 years
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2007, 06:46:30 PM »
What makes the lutsian serbs to our brothers?
only the same name?
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Re: Lusatian Serbs, Serbs that live in Germany for 1500 years
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2007, 07:44:47 PM »
"What makes the lutsian serbs to our brothers?"

REMINDER:
You were ready to EMBRACE the WHOLE SLAVIC WORLD
as "brothers and sisters"........
.........and you DARE ask me WHY
Lusatian SERBS are Brothers of Balkanic Serbs ?

 ???

Are you sane ?

 ???

Lusatian Serbs are our Brothers.

 :)

"only the same name?"

"ONLY" ?!!!

 :o :o :o

Have you ever seen,
was it JUST ONCE in your whole life-time,
ONE People having the NAME of ANOTHER People,
and not calling Him His Brother ?...

 :D

W.A.S.P. americans, W.A.S.P. english and W.A.S.P.australians
ARE BROTHERS, yet, they do not have the "same" name.
They KNOW they're all english-rooted.
That doesn't surprise anybody.

Then,
why would Serbo-Serbian Brotherhood
surprise anybody, either ?...

WE HAVE THE SAME NAME.

LUSATIAN SERBS ARE PROUD OF
THIS SERBIAN NAME
AS MUCH AS WE BALKANIC SERBS ARE.

 8;)

A People's NAME is not like
your pet animal's name.

IT HAS DEEP ROOTS.

 8;)
« Last Edit: October 28, 2007, 07:46:33 PM by Husar »
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"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: Lusatian Serbs, Serbs that live in Germany for 1500 years
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2007, 08:12:07 AM »
Great posts Serbian Army and Husars the Polabian Serbs were living in Luzyce before the german invaders came there:



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11 They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. Peace, peace, they say, when there is no peace.

12 Are they ashamed of their loathsome conduct? No, they have no shame at all; they do not even know how to blush. So they will fall among the fallen; they will be brought down when they are punished, says the LORD.

13 'I will take away their harvest, declares the LORD. There will be no grapes on the vine. There will be no figs on the tree, and their leaves will wither. What I have given them will be taken from them.'

14 Why are we sitting here? Gather together! Let us flee to the fortified cities and perish there! For the LORD our God has doomed us to perish and given us poisoned water to drink, because we have sinned against him.

15 We hoped for peace but no good has come, for a time of healing but there was only terror.

16 The snorting of the enemy's horses is heard from Dan; at the neighing of their stallions the whole land trembles. They have come to devour the land and everything in it, the city and all who live there.

17 See, I will send venomous snakes among you, vipers that cannot be charmed, and they will bite you, declares the LORD.

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« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2007, 09:14:59 AM »
Thank you, Ultra Requete !

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"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: Lusatian Serbs, Serbs that live in Germany for 1500 years
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2007, 11:43:57 AM »
Look at the very Name of this town in Texas proper !

"Serbin simply means "Place of the Serbs"."

From:

http://www.texasescapes.com/CentralTexasTownsSouth/SerbinTexas/SerbinTexasWends.htm

Correction: "Serbin" means " Serbian".

 :)
« Last Edit: November 08, 2007, 11:47:45 AM by Husar »
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"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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