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Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science

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Yochanan Zev:

--- Quote from: davkakach on December 02, 2006, 01:14:19 AM ---
--- Quote ---Truth is many of you here are so disullusioned to such an  extent, you have no real grasp of how to deal with your own reality.
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Huh?!  ???  You're not making any sense.

First of all, we are disillusioned (with political correctness, affirmative action, moral equivalence, etc.), but I believe the word you meant to use was actually "delusional."

Secondly, when a person has no grasp of how to deal with objective reality, that's when that person creates his "own reality."  So what you're talking about is an extreme case of dementia, when a person can't even deal with the fantasy world that he created as an escape from objective reality!   :o

Or maybe you just don't think while you type...   ::)  Friendly suggestion: avoid using big words, if you're not sure of their meaning.

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No, that's exactly what I meant.  Many of you are so "DISOLLUSIOINED", meaning jaded or disenchanted with your own subjective reality, your own pathetic lives where you blame other groups and peoples for your own shortcomings you resort to a practice of propping yourselves up by promoting sterotypes and negative attributes of some, and extrapolating these attributes across an entire race.

As far as the suggestion that blacks are more primitive in their evolutionary development than other races, I stand by what I said earlier.

wonderfulgoy:
All the original human beings were Caucasian.  G-d cursed Canaan by making him and his descendents black.  Black skin is an outward sign to let us know that the person in question is of the slave or negro race; in fact slavery was a justified and righteous thing, harsh treatment of slaves was not.  G-d marked the blacks with other grotesque features so that even when they intermixed with other races their off-spring would retain the humiliating and disgusting features of the slave race.

The highest form of abomination imaginable is the union of white woman (a fleshly manifestation of G-d's angels) with a black man (the fleshly manifestation of a devil).  The offspring of such a union is devoid of any soul at all.

G-d made man in His image: but do you really think a black man looks like G-d?

No, I don't think so. 

Carlyle:

--- Quote from: sarah.... on December 07, 2006, 05:21:53 PM ---"G-d made man in His image: but do you really think a black man looks like G-d?"

WHAT ARE YOU EVEN SAYING LOL??!! G-d made man in his image? What?!!! G-d is not even comparable to human terms...we cannot imagine G-d it is a sin....he is too advance for our understanding...he hasn't any time limits....just think how life would be without time...would we age? Its beyond our limits of understanding......
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Genesis 1:27: G-d created man in His own image, in the image of G-d He created him; male and female He created them.


--- Quote ---As for skin colour i think that GOD's creation is beautiful.....there are many beautiful black people out there as well. I thought that G-d saw all races as equal and was THE JUST? was he not?
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There is no passage in the Bible that says that all men were created equal. However, miscegenation is obviously against G-d's will.

ftfl:
As the issue of race is being discussed for soemthing like the millionth time on this forum, I've decided to try and make a comment beyond just saying that I don't judge people by race.

I personally will always judge an individucal person by how they behave, what they say and what they do.

But as so many people appear to be anti-black, and suggest that black people are more likely to be criinals etc, I've decided that I should look at some hard facts.

Firstly figures from the 2005 US census, numbers of people of different races living in the US.

White American, 74.7%, or about 215.3 million (the definition of White includes European Americans, North African Americans, Middle Eastern Americans (e.g. Arab Americans), Central Asian Americans, and Hispanic Americans who reported as White in the 2000 Census)
Black or African American 12.1% or 34.9 million
Asian American 4.3% or 12.5 million,
American Indian 0.8% or 2.4 million
Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander 0.1% or 0.4 million
Two or more races 1.9% or 5.6 million
Other 6% or 17.3 million

Secondly figures from the "Uniform Crime Reporting Program" breaking down crime in the US in the year 2005 by race.

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/05cius/data/table_43.html

If we look at this, we can see that White people, of which there are 215.3 million carried out about 7.1 million criminal acts, so 3.3% of white people in the US  are criminals.

Black people, of which there are 34.9 million carried out 2.8 million criminal acts, so 8% of black people in the US are criminals.

If you want to look at any other races, do it yourself.

These simple sums  have done suggest that for one reason or another the average black person in america is over twice as likely to be a criminal than the average white person. Having seen this, I can begin to understand where some of you are coming from, but still, it is far from a majority of black people, and I would still advocate judging each individual person by how they behave, not by how somoene who looks similar behaves.

fake plastic trees:

--- Quote from: ftf on December 18, 2006, 03:38:07 PM ---the average black person in america is over twice as likely to be a criminal than the average white person
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Yeah but 0.1 is two times 0.05... not exactly huge numbers...

And also a lot of this data will be skewed by the police always going for blacks rather than whites where possible... More blacks than whites will get caught.

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