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Barry Chamish is no kook!
« on: November 11, 2007, 09:44:32 PM »
I must confess I was among those who have always considered many of Chamish's contentions about conspiracies in Israel against right-wing Jews to be far-fetched at best and outrightly nonsensical at worst. But, I have recently come to realize that Chamish is on to something. Just this morning another terrible tragedy hit us when a car carrying the 2 sons of Rabbi Yehuda Kroizer the Rosh Yeshiva of rabbi Kahane's flagship seminary 'Harayon Ha-yehudi' were instantly killed in a fiery car crash when their car veered out of their lane and collided head-on into a bus. Now this sounds familiar, where have I heard this before?

Not long ago, Ami Popper a Jewish political prisoner-married to the sister of prominent activist Lenny Goldberg- was driving with his wife and son on furlough from prison when his car inexplicably veered out of his lane and collided head with a vehicle which instantly killed his wife and son.

Several years ago, the soldier son of prominent activist Baruch ben-Yosef was guarding an antenna in the Hebron hills area along with a colleague. The 2 were driving in a clearly marked vehicle when they stopped to make some Turkish coffee. A military helicopter began spraying the 2 with machine gun fire later claiming that they succesfully elimiated an Islamic Jihad terror cell (untill the 'mistake' was realized of course).

There have been many other such suspicious incidents in the last several years. Ask any statistician and they will tell you that the chances of all this being coincidental are very slim. I have a hunch that all these cars have been tampered with.These things also always tend to happen around similar times namely 'peace talks etc. It seems the Government is continuing its campaign to eliminate and weaken right-wing opposition ahead of the upcoming Annapolis summit.

A word of caution to all serious activists and their families: Use extreme caution in these times, the nazi government is out for you and your loved ones blood!
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Re: Barry Chamish is no kook!
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2007, 02:19:55 PM »
Kook or not, Chamish provides very useful information which few others are willing to investigate.

He's been warning that Olmert & company were murdering all the Orthodox Jewish rabbinical leaders & their families, using the methods employed by the intelligence services...rigging cars to lose control, and/or mysterious hit-and-run collisions designed to look like an "accident".

Barry Chamish isn't the best English writer, nor is he the best investigative reporter in the world, but even taking everything he writes "with a grain of salt", the main points he has brought to Israel's attention seem to hold up to scrutiny.

I have read each and every one of Chamish's published articles, and I continue to do so weekly.

Some discount him as "one of those conspiracy nuts", but that is to their own detriment.

Some others discount Chamish for writing about UFO sightings near Haifa.

True or not, the available evidence would indicate that at least 10% of all sightings are valid and real.

Before some here start insulting me because of this opinion, I suggest you do a little serious research on the subject, and you too will inevitably arrive at the same conclusion.

Two American astronauts have born witness to their seeing UFOs, as have numerous military experts and intelligence experts at the highest levels of numerous governments...their criteria for making such judgements being that no earthly science or known technology can explain sightings of saucer shaped crafts which defy gravity and perform seemingly impossible maneuvers at speeds beyond the grasp of humankind.

The skeptics among you will change your tune as soon as the ET's land and announce that they are Jewish.

Until then..... :(   

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« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2007, 02:41:11 PM »
Kook or not, Chamish provides very useful information which few others are willing to investigate.

He's been warning that Olmert & company were murdering all the Orthodox Jewish rabbinical leaders & their families, using the methods employed by the intelligence services...rigging cars to lose control, and/or mysterious hit-and-run collisions designed to look like an "accident".

Barry Chamish isn't the best English writer, nor is he the best investigative reporter in the world, but even taking everything he writes "with a grain of salt", the main points he has brought to Israel's attention seem to hold up to scrutiny.

I have read each and every one of Chamish's published articles, and I continue to do so weekly.

Some discount him as "one of those conspiracy nuts", but that is to their own detriment.

Some others discount Chamish for writing about UFO sightings near Haifa.

True or not, the available evidence would indicate that at least 10% of all sightings are valid and real.

Before some here start insulting me because of this opinion, I suggest you do a little serious research on the subject, and you too will inevitably arrive at the same conclusion.

Two American astronauts have born witness to their seeing UFOs, as have numerous military experts and intelligence experts at the highest levels of numerous governments...their criteria for making such judgements being that no earthly science or known technology can explain sightings of saucer shaped crafts which defy gravity and perform seemingly impossible maneuvers at speeds beyond the grasp of humankind.

The skeptics among you will change your tune as soon as the ET's land and announce that they are Jewish.

Until then..... :(   


I don't believe in UFO's one bit.  But I do believe that this Israeli government is capable of murdering prominent right wing activitists. 

Massuh:  Don't mix in stufff about UFO's it detracts from the things that could be true.  Just an honest opinion.

Sincerely,

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« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2007, 05:47:12 PM »
The Shadow:  "...Don't mix in stufff about UFO's it detracts from the things that could be true.  Just an honest opinion..."

Your opinion is well taken, but it is Barry Chamish, and not MassuhDGoodName, who wrote about UFOs, and it is Barry Chamish who wrote about Israeli government corruption.

Should you therefore conclude that if you yourself do not believe Chamish's articles on UFO sightings, you should not believe anything written by Chamish?

It was not long ago that the best educated among us denounced the very idea of "human flight" as insane and a mockery of G-d, claiming that if G-d had intended man to fly, He would have given him wings.

The concept that a metal and wood machine heavier than air was able to transport human beings safely through the clouds was said to be so wrong as to be beyond ridicule.

If someone had told me thirty years ago that a small plastic case sitting on my desk would be doing thousands of computations instantly, and storing thousands of photographs and other files, not to mention retaining them in a "memory" even when powered off, I would have assumed they were either nuts or on drugs.

It's more than OK with me if anyone chooses to believe Chamish to be insane and a liar.






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« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2007, 05:59:52 PM »
Popper, is Charedei, if you mention Rabbi Kahane zt'l to him he'd spit. ::)

Chamish is a genuine crazy who now claims Zionism is the modern offshoot of the Sabbetean movement, and he is marrying a GOYA. The man has never written a word of truth except by accident, according to him everything evil to ever happen in the last hundred years is because of evil Labor Zionists.

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Re: Barry Chamish is no kook!
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2007, 06:27:01 PM »
The Shadow:  "...Don't mix in stufff about UFO's it detracts from the things that could be true.  Just an honest opinion..."

Your opinion is well taken, but it is Barry Chamish, and not MassuhDGoodName, who wrote about UFOs, and it is Barry Chamish who wrote about Israeli government corruption.

Should you therefore conclude that if you yourself do not believe Chamish's articles on UFO sightings, you should not believe anything written by Chamish?

It was not long ago that the best educated among us denounced the very idea of "human flight" as insane and a mockery of G-d, claiming that if G-d had intended man to fly, He would have given him wings.

The concept that a metal and wood machine heavier than air was able to transport human beings safely through the clouds was said to be so wrong as to be beyond ridicule.

If someone had told me thirty years ago that a small plastic case sitting on my desk would be doing thousands of computations instantly, and storing thousands of photographs and other files, not to mention retaining them in a "memory" even when powered off, I would have assumed they were either nuts or on drugs.

It's more than OK with me if anyone chooses to believe Chamish to be insane and a liar.




Yeah, but don't mix the two topics together






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« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2007, 09:01:30 PM »
kahaneloyalist:  "...Chamish is a genuine crazy who now claims Zionism is the modern offshoot of the Sabbetean movement, and he is marrying a GOYA. The man has never written a word of truth except by accident, according to him everything evil to ever happen in the last hundred years is because of evil Labor Zionists..."

Have anything to say other than rabid denunciations of his character and your implying that Chamish is not "Jewish enough" for you?

Because, so far I am inclined to favor Chamish's reporting, over others' ranting histrionics.

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« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2007, 09:33:22 PM »
Chamish is a Shabak agent sent to make right wingers look like lunatics.
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Re: Barry Chamish is no kook!
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2007, 09:45:57 PM »
Re:  "...Chamish is a Shabak agent sent to make right wingers look like lunatics..."

First of all, I will believe your accusation if you will actually prove it to me.

Secondly, how is it possible to make right wingers look like lunatics?

Anyone can read the posts on this forum and see for themselves that there are no lunatics running loose!

*(it's almost getting to the point that there remains not a single living Jew who isn't insisting that another group of Jews is 'conspiring to smear and discredit all the other Jews)
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Re: Barry Chamish is no kook!
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2007, 09:59:07 PM »
Here Chamish speaks in his talk "The Secret War Against the Settlers"  of the conspiracy to kill settler leaders and their families 

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« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2007, 12:17:23 AM »
I don`t have traitors and carpetbaggers to hand.

He mentioned in that video about rav binyamin saying he wanted something disseminated regarding his father , rabbi meir`s murder.
what did chamish say about that in the book?

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« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2007, 06:19:11 PM »
As usual, Chamish's conspiratorial take on the accident, or maybe "accident"?


   "                                                                     
            ISRAEL'S HELLOCAUST by Barry Chamish

November 11, 2007, 03:26:24 PM
I regret to inform you that two sons of Rabbi Kreuser, the Rav of Mitzpe
Yericho and the Rosh Yeshiva of Yeshivat HaRa'ayon HaYehudi in
Jerusalem, were killed in a fiery car accident on the main highway just
outside of Mitzpe Yericho. They will be buried tonight at 12:30 in Har
HaMenuchot.

**

(IsraelNN.com) Four residents of one Negev town were killed in a car
crash on Sunday.  One of those killed was a soldier; three were
children.  The accident took place when the truck in which the group was
traveling went out of control due to the rain and hit an oncoming bus.
Eitan Orenbach, 12, Ahiya Huri, 12, Yishai Kreuser, 13, and Shlomo
Kreuser were killed in the accident.  Another four passengers were
wounded.  Shlomo Kreuser served as a captain in the IDF's elite Duchifat
unit.  He and Yishai Kreuser were both sons of Mitzpe Yericho's rabbi,
Rabbi Yehuda Kreuser.

**

It was no accident. It was murder. Permit me to remind you of a few
recent "accidents" killing the families of Israel's religious opposition:

On March 17, Rabbi Avi Cohen-Or, and his wife and daughter, died in
their van on an icy road near Hebron...Hardest hit appears to be the
Lubavitch community which lost two more last week when a car, stopped at
a light, was crushed by a "wayward" truck. The dead included an
influential Rebbetzin whose name happened to be Schneerson, the same
name as THE Lubavitch rabbi who was committed to stopping the "peace" in
its tracks...This week's victims, Tviki and Hadassah Stiskin, were the
son and daughter-in-law of the rabbi of the Jewish community of Maon,
near Hebron...Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg was the first to suffer from an
errant car.  The car veered off the road and "accidentally" killed his
grandson.  Rabbi Ginsburg is a /Chabad/ firebrand, arrested after the
1995 Rabin assassination and falsely accused of being an indirect
co-conspirator in the assassination.  Lately, he established a
/yeshivah/, highly unpopular with some "secular" locals, in Ramat Aviv
Gimel...The last 'accident' was to the son of Rabbi Mordechai Elon,
Refael Yechiel ben Hana, who was seriously injured in a car crash on
Monday, January 29.  Rabbi Elon's family includes the hapless Margalit
Har Shefi, set up to be a 'conspirator' in the Rabin assassination...The
Eilat killing ground worked out so well because just six days earlier, a
truck driver for reasons unfathomable to his interrogators, switched
lanes at the last second and smashed into a van full of prominent Chabad
youth. Two of the three dead were the sons of learning institute directors.

And it's not as if the spate of "accidents" has gone totally unnoticed.
Here is the first of many letters expressing suspicion of the deadly
trend. Go the archive section of my website for a more complete list:

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/121954#replies
"a lot of cars are swerving into oncoming traffic - car check time
so many vehicles are doing inexplicable swerving into oncoming trucks.
It started with the Chabad boys north of Eilat (who swerved away from
and oncoming car and rolled an inexplicable distance) and then Popper in
the same general location and the Rabbi of Telem and today's accident is
in that same general locations. I think that the cars should be
examined. maybe they all use the same mechanic who is selling used parts
and lifts them from his customers. but I definitely think the cars in
the accidents should be checked for tampering and I also think that
since all of the above are authentic right will personalities (the
fathers of the Chabad boys in their case), that all authentic right wing
personalities should learn how to fix their own engines."

Once again a large vehicle swerved out of its lane, turning a car
carrying the children of a religious notable into a fiery grave. The
hapless victims most likely witnessed themselves immolating before their
agonized eyes. Their father was the leading Rabbi expousing the thoughts
of the thinker Rabbi Meir Kahane, also assassinated. As was his son
Binyamin, assassinated in his car with his wife, not coincidentally, on
the morning of Israel's first alternative Rabin murder conference. Sixty
two bullets were shot at his car, not a one hitting the back seat where
his children sat. This was an execution.

In July, 1995 I interviewed Binyamin Kahane. He told me of his father's
murder; of the postman who happened to be on the spot to kill the
assassin Nosair, how Nosair killed the postman, how he wasn't tried for
his father's murder, how his group tried to bring down the World Trade
Center in 1993. However, best of all, he had a written affidavit from a
snitch inside the group testifying that he informed Shamir's government
of the impending hit and how that government ignored him.

He concluded with the reason he left his father's organization, Kach to
found Kahane Chai. He said, "I could no longer tell the agents from the
members."

Now two adolescent members died, engulfed in fire. And that, was no
coincidence, according to Rabbi Marvin Antelman, author of two volumes
of To Eliminate The Opiate. Within both, he proves that the Labor
Zionists were extreme believers in two false messiahs, Shabtai Tzvi and
Jacob Frank. They believed the opposite of the Torah was divine and any
Jew who rejected Tzvi was subject to their commandment, Thou Shalt
Murder. Of the Holocaust, his chapter is called Burnt Offerings. Jews
who dismissed Shabtai Tzvi must not merely die, they must feel the
flames of Hell as they perish. The subject is long, and includes the
complicity of the Labor Zionists in the Holocaust. I can only suggest
you go to  www.lulu.com <http://www.lulu.com/>  and order my Shabtai
Tzvi, Labor Zionism And The Holocaust.

Today, anyone who opposes their peace is a target for flaming
engulfment. If that means all of Israel is burnt by missiles, so be it
for rejecting their messiahs. They'll be well taken care of even if the
country turns to ashes. Nothing would please them more than the
climactic joy of witnessing the Jews who wouldn't accept their "truth"
sizzling in the rubble of their homes.

At the 1936 World Zionist Conference, Jewish Agency head Chaim Weizmann
told the assembled: "Perhaps only 2 million will survive the upcoming
Holocaust, but they will be ready for life in Palestine."

What he forget to mention is the coming immolation of a people. Just as
the current Jews will believe the string of car "accidents" is nothing
more than that, the post-Holocaust Jews concocted a fable that the Nazis
were somehow civilized butchers. Once in the gas chambers, you died in a
minute or two. Then on to the ovens.

But even a cursory view of respected eye-witness reports attests to
something far more ghastly than that.

Taking the most extreme report and hoping the truth is less gruesome,
the gas doesn't kill, it stupefies. You are shoveled into the oven where
you await the ultimate punishment for being a Jew. You are awakened by
the soaring heat, you are conscious long enough to know where you are,
you screech then watch the skin of your face dissolve. You live just
long enough to watch your body char in the searing flames.

That is what the Kreuser children felt before they died. And unless
there is a nationwide partisan uprising, that is what all Israel is
about to feel."


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Re: Barry Chamish is no kook!
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2007, 07:36:08 PM »
more here e.g. the postman
http://www.21stcenturyradio.com/dichter-chamish.htm

If this is true then how could Binyamin Kahane have not got this out?  Of all people to rely on to Describe what happened. Why have Chamish!!!  Chamish gets the material, but he makes it indigestable.

The problem with chamish is he likes "a good yarn"..  he enjoys it. And he does not care for details.

Reading chamish to establish the truth is a nightmare. But partly necessary.

 


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« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2007, 08:21:07 PM »
It's actually an intelligence community trick to nudge a car just-so, causing it to veer into the opposing lane of traffic.

I think most of us aren't at the level of the big-time politicians.  Some of the best advice of the so-called "New Testament" is "Be cunning as serpents and as harmless as doves."  Stay alert, know what's going on in the world, but be careful about upsetting a big-time player's apple cart.

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« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2007, 10:20:54 PM »
I haven`t looked at the hebrew for a better translation.. But anyhow-

Psalms 18:26 "With the merciful be merciful / show mercy, with the
upright show yourself upright, with the pure show yourself pure, with
the perverse show yourself subtle"

Chaim Ben Pesach has said. A general theme in judaism, is to be kind to the kind and cruel to the cruel.

Rabbi Kahane always stressed being smart.


There is a - jewish tradition - used by Rashi on Gen 29:12 ,  I cannot find an exact
quote, but
http://dafnotes.blogspot.com/2007_02_18_archive.html
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The Gemora proceeds to record the incident of Rachel’s modesty. It is
written [Breishis 29:12]: And Yaakov told Rachel that he was her
father's brother. Was he her father's brother? Wasn’t he in fact the
son of her father's sister? This is the explanation: Yaakov said to
Rachel, Will you marry me? She replied, yes, but my father is a
trickster, and he will outwit you. He replied: I am his brother in
trickery. Rachel asked him: Is it permitted for the righteous to
indulge in trickery? He replied: Yes, and the Gemora cites a verse in
Shmuel proving that one is permitted to act crookedly with a crook.
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Re: Barry Chamish is no kook!
« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2007, 10:33:18 PM »
Here Chamish speaks in his talk "The Secret War Against the Settlers"  of the conspiracy to kill settler leaders and their families 

He says Kach is Shabbak in that video. 2 30 seconds.
The Academy of Elijah taught, whoever studies the laws (of the Torah) every day, (he) is guaranteed to have a share in the World to Come.

‏119:139 צִמְּתַתְנִי קִנְאָתִי כִּישָׁכְחוּ דְבָרֶיךָ צָרָי
My zeal incenses me, for my adversaries have forgotten Your words.
‏119:141 צָעִיר אָנֹכִי וְנִבְזֶה פִּקֻּדֶיךָ, לֹא שָׁכָחְתִּי.
 I am young and despised; I have not forgotten Your precepts.

" A fool does not realize, and an unwise person does not understand this (i.e. the following:) When the wicked bloom like grass, and the evildoers blossom (i.e. when they seem extremly successful), it is to destroy them forever (i.e. they are rewarded for their few good deeds in this World, and they will have no portion in the World to Come!)

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Re: Barry Chamish is no kook!
« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2007, 10:38:51 PM »
Judeanoncapta, normally I agree with you, but I think this is an awfully big claim to make without evidence.

Nobody here denies that he is a little cooky, but I think his observations here might be worthy of deeper thought. It does seem a little fishy that all these family members of right-wing Jews keep getting killed in similar crashes.