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READ THE STORY BELOW BEFORE YOU VOTE. Should juveniles face the same punishment as adults?

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Only in extreme cases.
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Offline Dan

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Re: Should juveniles be executed?
« Reply #25 on: November 14, 2007, 10:02:39 AM »
In these types of extreme case YES... there are some things that cannot be overlooked no matter the age!
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Re: Should juveniles be executed?
« Reply #26 on: November 14, 2007, 10:03:52 AM »
Quote from: Electra on November 14, 2007, 09:49:27 AM


I associate deciding who is gonna live and who is going to die with Muslims, Nazis and dictatorships under the banner of communism, hence my resilience to it.


It was also part of Europe for the time in history when europe made it's greatest achievments. It is part of America who went from colony to superpower in 200 years. It is part of Torah Judaism which is the source of all current ideas of humanism, morallity and decency.

The issue is not capital punishment but what it's handed out for. Islam/nazism and communism execute for converting to another religion, having alternative political views or questioning it's corrupt leaders. That has NEVER happened in a democracy.

Capital punishment is no more fascist in nature than a gun or a sword. It's the application that separates us from them.
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Re: Should juveniles be executed?
« Reply #27 on: November 14, 2007, 10:11:12 AM »
Quote from: Electra on November 14, 2007, 10:00:52 AM
Quote from: Lisa on November 14, 2007, 09:55:17 AM
I heard about this case a while back, and yes, I think those boys should have been executed.  But since there's no death penalty in Britain, they should have been in jail for life.  Their parents should have also been thrown in jail for failing to civilize their kids. 

Lisa,

There is something really wrong here. (in Britain)

This was a high profile case, but it is in NO way isolated. Children are also killing adults. Just recently, on a Halloween party a 14 year old boy killed a 35 year old man over a cigarette.
On a Bonfire night, bunch of CHILDREN killed a man by setting him on fire.
Two nights ago, two 22 year olds were kicked to death by a gang of...boys(?). Both went to coma, boy survived and girl didn't...

ETC...

There seems to be something really wrong here which needs investigating...

What's wrong, Electra is a complete lack of morallity that is pervading all western societies. I don't know why Britain is worse in this regard.

I could see this comming.

Some 20 years ago I heard a sociologist talking about a new phenomenon of juvenile rape in Britain. Gangs of 11-13 year old boys were molesting/raping 6-9 year old girls and saying things like "you're a good shag" afterwards!

The sad thing is that up until the 1950s Britain gave as much or more to our civilisation as the Greeks or the Romans. Since the 50s all it has given is socialism, punk rock and appeasment of iSSlam.

What a tradgedy!
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Re: Should juveniles be executed?
« Reply #28 on: November 14, 2007, 10:15:06 AM »
The most blunt example of morality is, in fact, the death penalty.  These boys should have received the death penalty.  How many murders, rapes, assaults etc. are caused by repeat offenders?  I think far more than the odd injustice argued by leftists.  Ridding this Earth of evilness should be a blessing not something to be rationalized.....  imo
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Re: Should juveniles be executed?
« Reply #29 on: November 14, 2007, 10:16:51 AM »
Maybe they will meet their demise at the hands of the muslims infesting the U.K? Sounds like a fate befitting for them, seeing as how they killed a toddler and tried to make his death look like an accident.
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Re: Should juveniles be executed?
« Reply #30 on: November 14, 2007, 10:17:15 AM »
Quote from: Lisa on November 14, 2007, 09:55:17 AM
I heard about this case a while back, and yes, I think those boys should have been executed.  But since there's no death penalty in Britain, they should have been in jail for life.  Their parents should have also been thrown in jail for failing to civilize their kids. 
I agree with Lisa.  At the very least they should have be kept in jail(in the general prison population) for life...maybe that life wouldn't have lasted very long  ;) in that case.
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Re: Should juveniles be executed?
« Reply #31 on: November 14, 2007, 10:17:42 AM »
Quote from: MarZutra on November 14, 2007, 10:15:06 AM
The most blunt example of morality is, in fact, the death penalty.  These boys should have received the death penalty.  How many murders, rapes, assaults etc. are caused by repeat offenders?  I think far more than the odd injustice argued by leftists.  Ridding this Earth of evilness should be a blessing not something to be rationalized.....  imo

In Torah we are sinning if we DON'T rid the world of evil in this way.
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Re: Should juveniles be executed?
« Reply #32 on: November 14, 2007, 10:23:35 AM »
Kiddush Hashem brother....KIDDUSH HASHEM!!!  More Rabbis should actually teach this concept as applicable to reality today and more Jews should become aware of this blatantly logical ideology....imo
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Re: Should juveniles be executed?
« Reply #33 on: November 14, 2007, 03:46:48 PM »
According to Hallacha a Jew is responsible for his actions after 13. I suppose it may be similar for Gentiles. I wonder if a Sanhedrin would approve the execution of a child. So my vote is NO!
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Re: Should juveniles be executed?
« Reply #34 on: November 15, 2007, 01:10:33 AM »
Quote from: Raulmarrio2000 on November 14, 2007, 03:46:48 PM
According to Hallacha a Jew is responsible for his actions after 13. I suppose it may be similar for Gentiles. I wonder if a Sanhedrin would approve the execution of a child. So my vote is NO!

NO Jewish child in history would be capable of a monstrous crime like this.
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