Should a country exist solely for those who want freedom from the rules?

[Dr. Dan]

I mean, the USA was created on that basis...So once all nations become what they should be and everyone who identifies with those nationalities live those countries, shoudl there still exist a country that welcomes multi-culturalism?

and i dont' want ranting how multi-culturalism is evil...It gets a bad rap becuse some people here think that multi-culturalism means black culture...I'm talking about true multi-culturalism where you have people of all nations and cultures taking the good out of their own and living with others who have different cultures and share the good of their culture...blah blah blah.

[RationalThought110]

The US has its own nationality.  And it should not eliminate its sovereignty just because there are some people who believe there's no such thing as American US nationality and sovereignty.  I think there needs to be standards.  No open borders. 

[newman]

Yes.

Once the arab-muSSlims have been wiped out there'll be a lot of empty space east of the Jordan.

All the pro-diversity idiots and liberals can be dumped there to create a socialist paradise.

[Raulmarrio2000]

There should be one or several places in the world, where any person who doesn't want to belong to any State may live freely, with no government and authorities, but there still would have to be at least judges and a basic law to protect the rights of individulas and the non-born. A State is an association of people, and noone is to be forced to be a member of any association.
Let-be-land's Constitution recognises the right of any human being to chose which State he wishes to belong to, and even to chose no State and no Sovereignty on the land he actually lives, providing he is the legitimmate owner of that land. That's does not apply to invaders, neither it appliies to someone who lives in a place which already belongs to an ethnical group. So, there is no right for for Arabs in Israel, they must just leave! And even a Jew who doesn't want to live under Jewish sovereignty also needs to leave if he wants freedom.
But when it comes to countries which have no identity and large amounts of land, they are bound to set free places. That's why most States are not recognised by Let-be-land. They just force people to be members of their State!!!!! So they violate Art 1 of Our Constitution and are unsuit to deal with them!!!!!!!!!

[Electra]

I mean, the USA was created on that basis...So once all nations become what they should be and everyone who identifies with those nationalities live those countries, shoudl there still exist a country that welcomes multi-culturalism?

and i dont' want ranting how multi-culturalism is evil...It gets a bad rap becuse some people here think that multi-culturalism means black culture...I'm talking about true multi-culturalism where you have people of all nations and cultures taking the good out of their own and living with others who have different cultures and share the good of their culture...blah blah blah.

As long as those people do abuse. For example, if you go live in a country you need to assimilate to the culture, as opposed to culture assimilating to you. Its great to keep your old countries traditions, but without forcing it on others. Learning from each other to make something is great.

However - if you come to France or Britain, you do not enforce wearing a burka. If I go to Saudi Arabia, I would have comply to their laws of wearing one. In France and Britain we do not wear it and thus we do not expect people raising hell of wearing one, suing people and screaming bloody murder.  If you don't like the fact we don't wear burka - move somewhere else.
You learn the language of the country you're at. Thats the basic.

PS

Same applies to Head Scarfs, Arabic pajamas and other Arab looking clothes. You come to west, behave like it. You wanna wear pajamas, go to Arabia. Simple.

[Dr. Dan]

My understanding of the founding of the USA is exactly what I'm referring to.  Freedom of religion. Freedom of speech...Freedom of etc...and everybody hopefully getting along...

The reason why it seems so scary now is those damn liberals and socialists and communists making everyhting think like them..that destorys the integrity of "multiculturalism".

The same goes with religious zealouts of any kind...

[Sarah]

Without multiculturalism many societies would be extremely Arrogant.

[Dr. Dan]

I mean, the USA was created on that basis...So once all nations become what they should be and everyone who identifies with those nationalities live those countries, should there still exist a country that welcomes multiculturalism?

And I don't want ranting how multiculturalism is evil...It gets a bad rap because some people here think that multiculturalism means black culture...I'm talking about true multiculturalism where you have people of all nations and cultures taking the good out of their own and living with others who have different cultures and share the good of their culture...blah blah blah.

Multiculturalism only works with civilized peoples.

America was not founded on "freedom from the rules" but rather as a righteous country where righteous people can prosper. The Founding Fathers wanted people to be righteous, not be Liberals who do whatever they want.

Very well put Yaacov..I agree.  So that's what I meant...
So for example if there are righteous Jews who dont' want to lvie in israel and righteous italians don't want to livein italy and righteous british that dont' want to live in England..etc etc etc...is it ok to have a country for those righteous people who can live together in harmony sort of.

[Eliezer Ben Avraham]

I mean, the USA was created on that basis...So once all nations become what they should be and everyone who identifies with those nationalities live those countries, shoudl there still exist a country that welcomes multi-culturalism?

and i dont' want ranting how multi-culturalism is evil...It gets a bad rap becuse some people here think that multi-culturalism means black culture...I'm talking about true multi-culturalism where you have people of all nations and cultures taking the good out of their own and living with others who have different cultures and share the good of their culture...blah blah blah.

The concept of multi-culturalism is a flawed one. The idea that you can take thousands of different peoples (races, nations, etc.) and meld them in to one is moronic. That is why today we see so many problems with minorities, very few people are just "american" they are "something-American." (black american, asian american, jewish american etc.

[Eliezer Ben Avraham]

That type of country wouldn't last for long.  Eventually they would all become dhimmis as Muslims invade and take over the place.

the concept is flawed. people wont give up their individual cultures

[Iron Greek]

I am not too fond of ''multicultural society''

[Dr. Dan]

I mean, the USA was created on that basis...So once all nations become what they should be and everyone who identifies with those nationalities live those countries, shoudl there still exist a country that welcomes multi-culturalism?

and i dont' want ranting how multi-culturalism is evil...It gets a bad rap becuse some people here think that multi-culturalism means black culture...I'm talking about true multi-culturalism where you have people of all nations and cultures taking the good out of their own and living with others who have different cultures and share the good of their culture...blah blah blah.

The concept of multi-culturalism is a flawed one. The idea that you can take thousands of different peoples (races, nations, etc.) and meld them in to one is moronic. That is why today we see so many problems with minorities, very few people are just "american" they are "something-American." (black american, asian american, jewish american etc.

But there was a point in the 1800's when the Irish and Italians were making their way and had their little communities like many hispanics have today..and there was that same xenophobia we have today as well...But now, the Irish and Italians have put their 10 cents in this melting pot and everyhting is just fine.

The hispanics are doing it too...we just need to mind the illegal aliens and kick them out..since they broke the law...and English needs to be made as the national language of the US...and so everyimmigrant who comes here, shoudl learn the language of the country they are living in...as I would if Iwere to immigrate to Israel and laern how to speak Hebrew even though every other ISraeli can speak English..it's not right if I relied on that...The immigrant who goes to a certain coutnry must respect the laws and respect the people by learning how to speak the correct language.

Now back to hispanics...eventually their 10 cents will be part of the US's melting pot...even with a lot of the Mexicans here...and while a bunch of them will disappear in the abyss for good (because i'm sure something willbe done about it), these hispanics will be as the Italians and Irish are today, in the future...

Now with Blacks..they have been here longer than any of us on this forum...and they have essentially accomplished nothing...and it says a lot about their culture and that laziness is a big thing for them.  I mean...yeh, they were slaves..so i guess all that hard work for nothing gives them the right to be lazy now...LOL....so sad...I dont' see hope for Black culture...but there will be individuals that will get out of that lazy culture and assimilate with populace..and i sincerely believe that the hispanics as a whole and larger majority will do the same.

[Dr. Dan]

That type of country wouldn't last for long.  Eventually they would all become dhimmis as Muslims invade and take over the place.

the concept is flawed. people wont give up their individual cultures

you're exacatly right...

But i think there are people in this world that want to be original in their minds.

Let me give you an example. Here in the US, I pride myself for being a Jew when I'm around non Jews...i'm one of a kind.

But when I'm around other Jews, I pride myself for being a Persian Jew..sets me apart..

But when I'm around other Persian Jews, I pride myself for being originally from NJ...sets me apart from the rest...

You get my drift?  For me, as a Jew, if I lived in Israel, I woudlnt' be able to pride myself for being a Jew because everybody else around me is one...I want to set myself apart...

SO a place like the US, I know I can be around fellow jews if I want to..and nonJews so I can expand my horizons and learn from them..but by all means, I'm not going to be like them...

Knowledge = power. A proper multicultural society without evil cults is a good thing for some, but not necessarily for all. those who prefer to conform to society need to live in their own country. Others like to be around different people..so the USA is one of those places to be.

[newman]

I mean, the USA was created on that basis...So once all nations become what they should be and everyone who identifies with those nationalities live those countries, shoudl there still exist a country that welcomes multi-culturalism?

and i dont' want ranting how multi-culturalism is evil...It gets a bad rap becuse some people here think that multi-culturalism means black culture...I'm talking about true multi-culturalism where you have people of all nations and cultures taking the good out of their own and living with others who have different cultures and share the good of their culture...blah blah blah.

The concept of multi-culturalism is a flawed one. The idea that you can take thousands of different peoples (races, nations, etc.) and meld them in to one is moronic. That is why today we see so many problems with minorities, very few people are just "american" they are "something-American." (black american, asian american, jewish american etc.

You can mix certain things, but not all things. Potatos & peas are fine. Poatos & licorice are not.

You can have dogs, cats, parrots and goldfish in your home without too much drama. You can't have crocodiles, jackals and grizzly bears!

[Dr. Dan]

I mean, the USA was created on that basis...So once all nations become what they should be and everyone who identifies with those nationalities live those countries, shoudl there still exist a country that welcomes multi-culturalism?

and i dont' want ranting how multi-culturalism is evil...It gets a bad rap becuse some people here think that multi-culturalism means black culture...I'm talking about true multi-culturalism where you have people of all nations and cultures taking the good out of their own and living with others who have different cultures and share the good of their culture...blah blah blah.

The concept of multi-culturalism is a flawed one. The idea that you can take thousands of different peoples (races, nations, etc.) and meld them in to one is moronic. That is why today we see so many problems with minorities, very few people are just "american" they are "something-American." (black american, asian american, jewish american etc.

You can mix certain things, but not all things. Potatos & peas are fine. Poatos & licorice are not.

You can have dogs, cats, parrots and goldfish in your home without too much drama. You can't have crocodiles, jackals and grizzly bears!

very very well put