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To the people converting ..........
Raulmarrio2000:
You cannot be Muslim or Christian and Jewish at the same time, except for those who were born Jewish and left Judaism. Of course if you convert to Judaism you must abandon your former religion! But even if you don't convert, but just believe conversion exists, you cannot be a Christian or Muslim, or anyother religion. Beliving that there is the possibility of conversion, you already reject anyother religion, for it implies believing that a Kosher conversion gives the convert a Neshama.
I am what I am, a Goy...But the very fact that I have decided not to convert and that I am a goy, means to reject other religions.
Electra:
--- Quote from: Raulmarrio2000 on November 24, 2007, 08:48:11 PM ---You cannot be Muslim or Christian and Jewish at the same time, except for those who were born Jewish and left Judaism. Of course if you convert to Judaism you must abandon your former religion! But even if you don't convert, but just believe conversion exists, you cannot be a Christian or Muslim, or anyother religion. Beliving that there is the possibility of conversion, you already reject anyother religion, for it implies believing that a Kosher conversion gives the convert a Neshama.
I am what I am, a Goy...But the very fact that I have decided not to convert and that I am a goy, means to reject other religions.
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I am happy for you. Really.
Kiwi:
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on November 24, 2007, 08:52:28 PM ---
--- Quote from: The Infidel. on November 24, 2007, 08:38:27 PM ---Raul my interest is either wrong or right. its something that always I thought about why people do things.
I have never made such a choice. I am what I am.
I can't see how you can't change your believe system. Becoming a Jew means you leave your old system behind.
You can't be Muslim and Jew, or Christan and Jew. You are just Jew.
If you believe in other religions then how can you be true to G-d?
Or even why bother?
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He means that you have to leave your old belief system behind before becoming a Jew and that you must do this before even being eligible to convert and you can do so without having the intention to convert because Judaism has The Noahide Laws for Righteous Gentiles. They don't have to become Jews.
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See that I find hard to understand, why stop at just being Noahide, why not continue the path to being a Jew?
I was thinking its a huge step to make in the first place.
Kiwi:
--- Quote from: Electra on November 24, 2007, 08:46:34 PM ---Infidel. This is an interesting topic.
On Friday I was having a discussion at my job (now former job), where I jokingly mentioned that I will convert to Judaism over the weekend, and on Monday when I get there I will be Jewish.
To that I was told I shouldn't do that, or 'they' would have to 'kill me''.
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Geez hard workplace :-\
Kiwi:
--- Quote from: Raulmarrio2000 on November 24, 2007, 08:48:11 PM ---You cannot be Muslim or Christian and Jewish at the same time, except for those who were born Jewish and left Judaism. Of course if you convert to Judaism you must abandon your former religion! But even if you don't convert, but just believe conversion exists, you cannot be a Christian or Muslim, or anyother religion. Beliving that there is the possibility of conversion, you already reject anyother religion, for it implies believing that a Kosher conversion gives the convert a Neshama.
I am what I am, a Goy...But the very fact that I have decided not to convert and that I am a goy, means to reject other religions.
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What made you stop? Was there something that you didn't like?
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