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One Thing Chaim Said About Animals . . .
Rubystars:
I believe anything that is alive and has ways to perceive the world around it has a soul. Some lizards such as bearded dragons and iguanas certainly display individual personalities, so don't be so quick to dismiss lizards. :)
Animals are lucky in a way, they only have to follow their natural instincts, and deal with surviving and producing young, whereas we humans have to deal with surviving and have the moral burdens and responsibilities that come with being human.
If a lion kills a three year old human child and eats them, then the lion has not committed a sin and is not evil. It is no different to the lion that it killed a human child or a baby gazelle. If a human were to do such a thing, the terrible moral burden of the murder would demand the death penalty or at the very least, long incarceration.
Kiwi:
Ruby you reminded me of something with Loins.
A Zulu hunter once told my mother, when a Lioness hunts, and yes its the female Loin that hunts for the pride for those who don't know.
You have a window when you can go up to her and take some of the meat from her pray. She will allow it once, because they say the soul of the Lion is their family members long ago.
This is apart of their passage of rights to adulthood.
If animals were souless beings how could this happen? An unarmed human V's a Lioness nearly 4 times their weight.
Boeregeneraal:
the lions are amused at these silly monkeys doing what they do best...steal :::D :::D :::D :::D :::D
newman:
--- Quote from: The Infidel. on December 05, 2007, 06:50:25 PM ---Ruby you reminded me of something with Loins.
A Zulu hunter once told my mother, when a Lioness hunts, and yes its the female Loin that hunts for the pride for those who don't know.
You have a window when you can go up to her and take some of the meat from her pray. She will allow it once, because they say the soul of the Lion is their family members long ago.
This is apart of their passage of rights to adulthood.
If animals were souless beings how could this happen? An unarmed human V's a Lioness nearly 4 times their weight.
--- End quote ---
Good grief!
Even the lions have to give the blacks welfare! ::)
Shlomo:
In Judaism, all living creatures have souls. There are plant, animal, and human souls.
1. All plants have a plant soul.
2. All animals have a plant and animal soul.
3. All humans have a plant (i.e. the living chemical process and cell growth), animal (i.e. our instincts and animal behavior), and human soul (i.e. the intellect to understand we exist and can make choices).
The animal soul is just as distant from the plant as the human is from the animal. The human soul is the soul that would exist in the World to Come. Most sin comes from the struggle between the animal and human soul.
When an animal makes a decision, it is based completely on how it feels. As humans, we take information on how we feel and then process it through another layer of logic (through the human soul) and decide if it is right or wrong (at least some do).
This may seem quite foreign or strange to Christians but has been a part of Judaism since the beginning. So most of you are correct.
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