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One Thing Chaim Said About Animals . . .

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Boeregeneraal:
does the Torah/Bible have some age whereby kids become (how can i say this?) responsible for their sins?

Kiwi:

--- Quote from: Boeregeneraal on December 16, 2007, 04:25:25 AM ---does the Torah/Bible have some age whereby kids become (how can i say this?) responsible for their sins?



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What you mean when they become evil little buggers, spreading choas and terror over the world?

yeshuadisciple:

--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on December 16, 2007, 12:17:09 AM ---
--- Quote from: The Infidel. on December 15, 2007, 07:46:03 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on December 15, 2007, 07:04:24 PM ---
--- Quote from: The Infidel. on December 15, 2007, 06:39:01 PM ---Its only man that sins.

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and women too.

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Its was Man as in the human race. Not man is in the sex.  :::D



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do babies sin?

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Psalm 51:5


--- Quote ---Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity,
         And in sin my mother conceived me.
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I don't think they sin, but the nature is there until they are strong enough to act on it. 

Boeregeneraal:

--- Quote from: The Infidel. on December 16, 2007, 04:45:20 AM ---
--- Quote from: Boeregeneraal on December 16, 2007, 04:25:25 AM ---does the Torah/Bible have some age whereby kids become (how can i say this?) responsible for their sins?



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What you mean when they become evil little buggers, spreading choas and terror over the world?

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exactly my view! ;)

Me:
 I do not believe animals have eternal souls.  They cannot learn right from wrong, and do not have moral capability.  Yes, you can discipline a dog, but it is only learning that it will be punished if it does a certain thing, and it wants to avoid that.  Also, Genesis says "let Us create Man in Our image."  I don't think the Bible says anything about animals being created specifically in His image.  I don't think animals have anything eternal about them, because their salvation is not mentioned in the Bible, and God did not provide a way for them to be saved, as he did for Man with Jesus.  Yes, they can show emotion, but I don't believe that emotion entails a soul.
 
                  Just my thoughts.

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