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Look at this bosnian thread about battle of kosovo polje
« on: December 02, 2007, 04:28:35 PM »
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Bitka na Kosovu polju je bitka vođena 1389. godine između skupine balkanskih zemalja i Osmanskog carstva.

Srpski knez Lazar Hrebljanović okupio je vojsku od oko 100.000 vojnika sastavljenog od Srba, Bosanaca (koje je predvodio Vlatko Vuković Kosača), Mađara i plaćenika. Smatra se da je jedan odred Hrvata predvodio Ivaniš Paližna. Na drugoj strani se nalazio osmanski sultan Murat I sa vojskom iz svih dijelova Osmanskog carstva, koja je brojala oko 300.000 vojnika.

Bitka se vodila na Kosovu Polju u blizini današnje Prištine.

Obje vojske su bile raspoređene u uobičajenu formaciju, sa centrom i dva krila. Središnjim dijelom savezničke balkanske vojske je upravljao knez Lazar Hrebljanović. Jednim krilom je komandovao Vuk Branković a drugim, bosanski velmoža veliki vojvoda Vlatko Vuković. U osmanskoj vojsci je sultan Murat I upravljao središnjim dijelom vojske dok su krilima upravljali njegovi sinovi Jakub i Bajazid.

U početku bitke saveznička kršćanska koalicija je uspjela probiti osmanske redove u centru i krilom kojim je zapovijedao Jakub, ali je Bajazid ostao čvrst. U ovoj bici je poginuo osmanski sultan Murat I. Tačan način smrti osmanskog sultana Murata je nepoznat. Među historičarima preovladava mišljenje da je u toku bitke izvjesni Miloš Obilić na prevaru, nakon što je izrazio pokornost sultanu, ubio Murata.

Nakon ovoga Osmanlije su izvršile protuudar. U ovom napadu je ubijen i srpski knez Lazar Hrebljanović. Zbog smrti osmanskog sultana, Bajazid je povukao vojsku unutar Osmanskog carstva da bi osigurao tron.

Karakter bitke i njen ishod čest su predmet spora među historičarima. Radi se o pokušaju balkanskih velmoža da zaustave daljnje prodiranje Osmanlija. Saveznike je okupljao knez Lazar Hrebljanović čija oblast je bila najviše ugrožena. Bitka je dio niza operacija koje su poduzimali evropski vladari koji su nastojali da zaustave osmanska osvajanja. Izvještaj Tvrtka I Kotromanića bio je da su kršćani pobijedili, no očito je da je to bila Pirova pobjeda, jer poslije bitke kneginja Milica, udovica kneza Lazara Hrebljanovića, morala je priznati vazalne obaveze prema Osmanlijama.

Prema podacima Ignacija Vojea, početkom 15. vijeka Bosanci su imali informacije da su neki od njihovih vlastelina, učesnika Kosovske bitke, a koji su bili zarobljeni od strane Osmanlija, još bili živi. Poduzimali su diplomatske napore preko Dubrovnika da se oni pokušaju spasiti.

 ::) ???

Бог нам помого. Али богами Срби изгледа да нећемо нигде стићи ако се не зложимо. Не смемо заборавити да;

Само Слога Србина Спашава!!!

Али морамо да верујемо у Бога!!!

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Re: Look at this bosnian thread about battle of kosovo polje
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2007, 04:35:23 PM »
I think you would need to translate that for 98% of us here ^-^

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Re: Look at this bosnian thread about battle of kosovo polje
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2007, 04:51:07 PM »
I think you would need to translate that for 98% of us here ^-^

Well it says that the battle was 100 000 serbs against 300 000 turks which is a false fact. 15 - 25 000 serbs vs 45 - 55 000 turks is estimated.
Бог нам помого. Али богами Срби изгледа да нећемо нигде стићи ако се не зложимо. Не смемо заборавити да;

Само Слога Србина Спашава!!!

Али морамо да верујемо у Бога!!!

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Re: Look at this bosnian thread about battle of kosovo polje
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2007, 05:15:05 PM »
Thanks Srbin O0

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Бог нам помого. Али богами Срби изгледа да нећемо нигде стићи ако се не зложимо. Не смемо заборавити да;

Само Слога Србина Спашава!!!

Али морамо да верујемо у Бога!!!

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Re: Look at this bosnian thread about battle of kosovo polje
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2007, 05:44:57 PM »
Thanks.

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Re: Look at this bosnian thread about battle of kosovo polje
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2007, 05:59:44 PM »
"balkanskih zemalja i Osmanskog carstva" :o
What "balkan lands" Albania (est1912) or Croatia or Bosnia 8;)
My god, Bosnian muslims are so funny :::D
Is it so hard to say that it was battle between Serbs and Ottoman empire?
We should kick their asses some more, just for being so wicked ;D

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Re: Look at this bosnian thread about battle of kosovo polje
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2007, 03:18:46 AM »
BOSNOMUSSLIMNAZIS......



......donkeys READY to be kicked out.
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: Look at this bosnian thread about battle of kosovo polje
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2007, 05:17:11 AM »
BOSNOMUSSLIMNAZIS......



......donkeys READY to be kicked out.

 :::D :::D :::D

Where do you find theese kind of pictures :p  :::D
Бог нам помого. Али богами Срби изгледа да нећемо нигде стићи ако се не зложимо. Не смемо заборавити да;

Само Слога Србина Спашава!!!

Али морамо да верујемо у Бога!!!

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Re: Look at this bosnian thread about battle of kosovo polje
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2007, 07:24:20 AM »
BOSNOMUSSLIMNAZIS......



......donkeys READY to be kicked out.

 :::D :::D :::D

Where do you find theese kind of pictures :p  :::D

 :D :D ;D ;D

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Re: Look at this bosnian thread about battle of kosovo polje
« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2007, 08:33:10 AM »
BOSNOMUSSLIMNAZIS......



......donkeys READY to be kicked out.

 :::D :::D :::D

Where do you find theese kind of pictures :p  :::D


It was certainly in "sarayevo",
...a bosnomuSSlimnazidonkey
praising alllllaaaaahhhah hahhahhah ah ah ah ah !!!!

 ;D ;D ;D
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: Look at this bosnian thread about battle of kosovo polje
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2007, 09:07:34 AM »
"balkanskih zemalja i Osmanskog carstva" :o
What "balkan lands" Albania (est1912) or Croatia or Bosnia 8;)
My G-d, Bosnian muslims are so funny :::D
Is it so hard to say that it was battle between Serbs and Ottoman empire?
We should kick their donkeys some more, just for being so wicked ;D

Ahaha, didn't notice that.
Бог нам помого. Али богами Срби изгледа да нећемо нигде стићи ако се не зложимо. Не смемо заборавити да;

Само Слога Србина Спашава!!!

Али морамо да верујемо у Бога!!!

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Re: Look at this bosnian thread about battle of kosovo polje
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2007, 11:23:29 AM »
The first preserved mention of the name "Bosnia" is in the De Administrando Imperio, a politico-geographical handbook written by Byzantine emperor Constantine VII in 958 as a component part of "Baptized Serbia," however, by this time Bosnia was mostly converted from their slavic manichaistic religion to Bogumilism (a christian sect that slavic Bulgarians spread to Bosnia). The exact meaning and origin of the word is somewhat cloudy. The name "Bosnia" most probably comes from the name of the Bosna river around which it has been historically based, which was recorded in the Roman Age under the name Bossina.[3] More direct root of the river's names are unknown. Philologist Anton Mayer proposed a connection with the Indo-European root bos or bogh, meaning "running water".[4] Certain Roman sources similarly mention Bathinus flumen, or the Illyrian word Bosona, both of which would mean "running water" as well.[4] Other theories involve the rare Latin term Bosina, meaning boundary, and possible Slavic origins.[4]

The origins of the word Herzegovina can be identified with more precision and certainty. During the Early Middle Ages the region was known as Hum or Zahumlje, named after the Zachlumoi tribe of Slavs which inhabited it. In the 1440s, the region was ruled by powerful nobleman Stefan Vukčić Kosača. In a document sent to Friedrich III on January 20, 1448, Stefan Vukčić Kosača called himself Herzog of Saint Sava, lord of Hum and Primorje, great duke of the Bosnian kingdom (Herzog means duke in German) and so the lands he controlled would later become known as Herzog's lands or Herzegovina.[3] The name Herzegovina was first included in the official name of the then Ottoman province in the mid-nineteenth century.


This true?

Бог нам помого. Али богами Срби изгледа да нећемо нигде стићи ако се не зложимо. Не смемо заборавити да;

Само Слога Србина Спашава!!!

Али морамо да верујемо у Бога!!!