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The West is Wrong on Kosovo
« on: December 06, 2007, 01:49:32 AM »
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The West is Wrong on Kosovo
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/2742
From the desk of The Brussels Journal on Wed, 2007-12-05 13:40
A quote from Fjordman at Jihadwatch, 4 December 2007

President Bush declared a "war on terror" after the Jihadist attacks on the United States in 2001. Six years later, all he has achieved is bleeding American tax payers financially and American soldiers literally while overseeing the eradication of non-Muslim communities in Iraq. Now his administration supports independence for terrorist-sponsoring Muslims in the Balkans and in the Palestinian territories. Unless he does something very substantial in 2008, George W. Bush risks being remembered as one of the worst presidents in American history.

I listened to a speech by Patrick Sookhdeo, a former Muslim who recently launched his latest book, Global Jihad: The Future in the Face of Militant Islam. Sookhdeo had done a lot of excellent – and frightening – research regarding the Islamization of Western Europe, especially Britain. He recalled having a conversation with a senior Western official regarding what would happen if Muslims in a region of, say, Britain or the Netherlands, should declare that they would no longer accept the laws of the central government and would form a breakaway Islamic Republic. This official then stated that they would probably just have to quietly accept that. When witnessing the Muslim riots in France, which more and more resemble a civil war, this question is no longer just hypothetical. […]

Granting Jihadist Muslims independence in Kosovo after they have conducted ethnic cleansing of non-Muslims will establish an extremely dangerous precedent. Not only is it immoral to sacrifice the freedom or perhaps existence of smaller nations, be that the Serbs or the Israelis, in order to save your own skin. As the example of Czechoslovakia demonstrated during WW2, it is also counterproductive. Supporting independence for Muslim Albanians in Kosovo will not lead to stabilization of the Balkans; it will rather lead to the Balkanization of the West. The new thug state will serve as a launching pad for Jihad activities against non-Muslims, just like an independent Palestinian state would do in the Middle East.

In the case of Kosovo, the Russians are right and Western leaders, both in the European Union and the United States, are wrong. The Serbs have suffered enough. Give them a break!
Turkey must get out of NATO. NATO must get out of Kosovo-Serbia. Croats must get out of Crajina. All muslims must get out of Christian and Jewish land. Turks must get out of Cyprus. Turks must get out of "Istanbul". "Palestinians" must get out of Israel. Israel must become independent from USA.

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Re: The West is Wrong on Kosovo
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2007, 03:45:33 AM »
The west was wrong FROM THE BEGINNING of the former-yugoslav war.
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: The West is Wrong on Kosovo
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2007, 03:53:08 AM »
The west was wrong FROM THE BEGINNING of the former-yugoslav war.

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Re: The West is Wrong on Kosovo
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2007, 04:09:16 AM »
Ambiorix our Belgium comrade!

You probably support now us the Serbs in our fight against our enemies.
You are a Belgium nationalist and your country is probably also under attack.
Now you see again us the Serbs as a tool to stop the invasion against Europe.

I don’t doubt about your support to the Serbs.
The Serbs aren’t considered as a threat anymore to the west? I hope not.

Now you support the Serbs because they are attacked by Muslims, just like your nation.
You support of course also the  right wing party “Vlaamse blok” of Belguim.
They are supported by Belgium nationalists!

But before the problems with the Muslims.
We go 15 years back in the time.
The year 1990.

Did your right wing party “Vlaamse blok” supported the Serbs when they were attacked by the Croats and the Muslims who aimed for a catholic Croatian state?

Your right wing party “Vlaamse blok” sent volunteers to Croatia to fight against the Serbian minority who faced 3 times genocide in the 20 century!

I have no attention to organize revenge or something like that for the crimes of the Western policy against us the Serbs.
Because I hope that the people from the West will wake up and restore what was done to the Serbs.

But we are not naïve. We know exactly who volunteered in Croatia and supported them.
Those people claim today that they support the Serbs?? Yea right!
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Re: The West is Wrong on Kosovo
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2007, 05:19:35 AM »
Ambiorix our Belgium comrade!
Thank you my Serbian hero!

You probably support now us the Serbs in our fight against our enemies.
You are a Belgium nationalist and your country is probably for sure also under attack.
Now you see again us the Serbs as a tool to stop the invasion against Europe.
A tool ? Wait until somebody else comes to save us?
I could use a military training, because my government finished army. only 37000 'professionals'
remain in the army.

Of course Serbia is our inspiration, to get courage from.


 We must overthrow the liberals/socialists/catholics in our own countries. And take power,
1 cut the crap, put the muslims back to the desert.
2 make babies
3 restore our love to god, before he destroys us.
4 restore the Church , so we become family, and stop having catholics butchering people because they are Orthodox.

I learned about your cause three years ago from my Russian friends.
They helped me become "de-brainwashed" so to speak.
I since then, want to clean up Kosovo from the muslims, because Kosovo is the birth - ground of
The Cyrillic , Serbian , you know the core of the Slavonic soul. The very fact that these monsters walk around on your soil,
is asking for revenge.


I don’t doubt about your support to the Serbs.
The Serbs aren’t considered as a threat anymore to the west? I hope not.

In my opinion we are brothers. I'm together with you 100%.
The Belgian traitor-scum media considers Serbia as the 'agressor'.
I pray they may burn forever in hell.


Now you support the Serbs because they are attacked by Muslims, just like your nation.
You support of course also the  right wing party “Vlaamse blok"of Belguim.Flanders (north)
They are supported hated  by the Belgium nationalists!

There are no Belgian nationalist , belgium is a puppet state made in 1830.
by the English, French to create a buffer-state between them and Germany.
the south = Walloons , want to keep the federal state, because they are to lazy to work.
Without them Flanders is almost $nº1 in Europe.
Wallonia is having 19% unemployment, and 35% working for the state.

they were vlaams blok, flemish blok, but got convicted for racism because in the 90ties, there programme was advocating
the complete mass-expulsion of non-european immigrants.
The they changed the name to Vlaams Belang, Flemish Interest.

they were founded in 83 by Karel Dillen, who most likely is a man of ultra-right circles.
Of course it is more than likely at that stage the radical elements were neo-nazi.
They changed their image to a "popular" right , that is , anti-nazi, pro-Israel.
But even then still holocaust-deniers such as Roeland Raes are working for them.



But before the problems with the Muslims.
We go 15 years back in the time.
The year 1990.

Did your right wing party “Vlaamse blok” supported the Serbs when they were attacked by the Croats and the Muslims who aimed for a catholic Croatian state?

I'm 100% sure they did support Croatia.  Jean-Marie Le Penis' Front National did, and they are good friends with FN.
I found a photo with 3 known parliamentarians posing on the photo.
so there is no doubt.
The guys from FN, and other neo-Nazis were coming to Croatia "to assist in the battle"


Your right wing party “Vlaamse blok” sent volunteers to Croatia to fight against the Serbian minority who faced 3 times genocide in the 20 century!

I have no attention to organize revenge or something like that for the crimes of the Western policy against us the Serbs.
Because I hope that the people from the West will wake up and restore what was done to the Serbs.

But we are not naïve. We know exactly who volunteered in Croatia and supported them.
Those people claim today that they support the Serbs?? Yea right!

the website belongs to Paul Belien. He is a conservative with good contacts in the U.S.A.
His woman is the Vlaams Belang anti-abortion woman Alexandra Colen.

the article is written by Fjordmann, who is a very good blogger from Norway.

P.S. : I don't know what the 3 guys on the photo today think . They want to keep it hidden.


neo-Nazism is rising today the most in Russia I think. <Ruzism>
They forgive hitler for the WWII because they find the communistic government more evil...
Yea right.

I , of course don't have an idea what is going to happen next with Kosovo-Serbia.
What is the expectation you have?
Will there be a new war? Or is Serbia giving it up, to take it back in a later period in time?
Turkey must get out of NATO. NATO must get out of Kosovo-Serbia. Croats must get out of Crajina. All muslims must get out of Christian and Jewish land. Turks must get out of Cyprus. Turks must get out of "Istanbul". "Palestinians" must get out of Israel. Israel must become independent from USA.

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Re: The West is Wrong on Kosovo
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2007, 07:26:26 AM »
Yes that’s true Belgium is a state of two nations.
The Flanders and the Walloons are the two constitutional nations of the state Belgium.

How would the Flanders react if the Walloons decide to remove the constitutional status of the Flanders? Declaring the Flanders as a national minority or applying to send them to the Netherlands? Would Europe aprove that? You thing that is impossible and illegal? Yes it is.

But it happened to the Serbs!

Did you know that the socialist republic of Croatia, which was established by the communist in 1945, was also a bi-national state, just like Belgium.
Croatia was, according to the constitution of the Yugoslav federation, the state of the Serbs and the Croats living in it.

In 1990 the Croatians declared Croatia as the state of the Croatian people. They put the Serbs out of the constitution and declared them a national minority.

How would you react if that happened to the Flanders?

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Re: The West is Wrong on Kosovo
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2007, 08:07:51 AM »
The west was wrong FROM THE BEGINNING of the former-yugoslav war.

 O0 O0 O0

 O0 O0 O0 The West wants to side with the Nazi MuSSlim church burning dreck while they talk about iSSlam as a religion of Peacccceee.

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Re: The West is Wrong on Kosovo
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2007, 09:18:35 AM »
The west was wrong FROM THE BEGINNING of the former-yugoslav war.

 O0 O0 O0

 O0 O0 O0 The West wants to side with the Nazi MuSSlim church burning dreck while they talk about iSSlam as a religion of Peacccceee.

They LIE with this
B......t non-stop.
It's disgusting.

 :P
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: The West is Wrong on Kosovo
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2007, 08:06:54 PM »
Yes that’s true Belgium is a state of two nations.
The Flanders and the Walloons are the two constitutional nations of the state Belgium.

How would the Flanders react if the Walloons decide to remove the constitutional status of the Flanders? Declaring the Flanders as a national minority or applying to send them to the Netherlands? Would Europe aprove that? You thing that is impossible and illegal? Yes it is.

But it happened to the Serbs!

Did you know that the socialist republic of Croatia, which was established by the communist in 1945, was also a bi-national state, just like Belgium.
Croatia was, according to the constitution of the Yugoslav federation, the state of the Serbs and the Croats living in it.

In 1990 the Croatians declared Croatia as the state of the Croatian people. They put the Serbs out of the constitution and declared them a national minority.

How would you react if that happened to the Flanders?

It would be total war. But the EU and UN would immediately invade the country and prevent further clashing.
Flemish are majority in Belgium 60/40.
Now 10 % (how much illegals I don't know) is non-European.

Bu lucky for us ...  well , in our history Wallonia was never an enemy, and never will be.
We haven't got our language common, but certainly the beer&french fries - tradition/culture is the same.
It is what we call Burgundian culture - after the Burgundian union of Flanders - Wallonia - Alsace - Bourgogne.

Burgundy was finished.

Then the Spanish & French came to occupy us.

Our Protestant elite and the Jews of Antwerp, fled to Amsterdam,
And it is widely accepted, then the Golden Age began in Holland.

Austrians occupied us too.

Then finally liberated, we were together with our brothers from Holland,
Who speak the same language as we do.
but England and France didn't like that Holland would become too strong,
so they decided to make a buffer-state.


This buffer state is 177 years old and dying.

It is actually happening. That is way we have a government since 10th of June.
The city of Brussel (old Flemish Broek- zeele ->FR  Bruxelle ->E Brussels -> FL Brussel ) was a Flemish city by the creation of Belgium.
We lost majority, and are only 10% there now.
There are more arabian speaking people than Flemish/Dutch speaking in Brussels now.
And guess what ?

They gave Brussels an independent status, so it's never to become Flemish again.
This is a result of French imperialism.

Now Belgium is ungovernable because we don't want to revoke the Wallonian minorities around Brussels the right to speak French (in schools, court, ...) They want the region around it to become part of Brussels.

Flemish people are to become independent, and Wallonian minorities have to adapt and become Dutch - speaking or move away.
BUT THIS WHOLE MICRO-PROBLEM IS NOTHING COMPARED TO THE CURRENT ANNEXATION OF BRUSSELS BY THE MUSLIM MAJORITY!!!


Turkey must get out of NATO. NATO must get out of Kosovo-Serbia. Croats must get out of Crajina. All muslims must get out of Christian and Jewish land. Turks must get out of Cyprus. Turks must get out of "Istanbul". "Palestinians" must get out of Israel. Israel must become independent from USA.

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Re: The West is Wrong on Kosovo
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2007, 12:33:48 PM »
yes they are 8;)
Serbia will never surrender Kosovo to the breakaway province's ethnic Albanian majority or trade its territory for European Union or NATO membership,

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Re: The West is Wrong on Kosovo
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2007, 12:43:37 PM »
yes they are 8;)
We will stop them.
I want to see hundreds of battle-fields full of burned muslim-bodies.
Turkey must get out of NATO. NATO must get out of Kosovo-Serbia. Croats must get out of Crajina. All muslims must get out of Christian and Jewish land. Turks must get out of Cyprus. Turks must get out of "Istanbul". "Palestinians" must get out of Israel. Israel must become independent from USA.

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Re: The West is Wrong on Kosovo
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2007, 01:22:26 PM »
yes they are 8;)
We will stop them.
I want to see hundreds of battle-fields full of burned muslim-bodies.
i want them out of our lands, say no to arab oil O0
Serbia will never surrender Kosovo to the breakaway province's ethnic Albanian majority or trade its territory for European Union or NATO membership,

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Re: The West is Wrong on Kosovo
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2007, 03:13:38 PM »
The west was wrong FROM THE BEGINNING of the former-yugoslav war.

 O0 O0 O0

 O0 O0 O0 The West wants to side with the Nazi MuSSlim church burning dreck while they talk about iSSlam as a religion of Peacccceee.
The thing is, they've got the wrong kind of peace stuck in their head, Islam is a religion of piece, as in it wants a piece of our dead bodies, a piece of our land, a piece of our money, people keep getting confused between the word peace and piece... I suppose that's the problem with English having multiple words being pronounced identically.

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Re: The West is Wrong on Kosovo
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2007, 05:26:14 PM »
The US is now backing up the Albanian Kosowar and Russia is backing up the Serbia, and both are ready to fight the other power to the last Serb and Albenian. both countries are not European so we European christians shud unite and tell them to show off, send all (still breathing) muslims to KSA and help the Jewish people to estblish Greater Israel in ME. This all quite simple. ::)  O0
Jeremiah 8:11-17

11 They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. Peace, peace, they say, when there is no peace.

12 Are they ashamed of their loathsome conduct? No, they have no shame at all; they do not even know how to blush. So they will fall among the fallen; they will be brought down when they are punished, says the LORD.

13 'I will take away their harvest, declares the LORD. There will be no grapes on the vine. There will be no figs on the tree, and their leaves will wither. What I have given them will be taken from them.'

14 Why are we sitting here? Gather together! Let us flee to the fortified cities and perish there! For the LORD our God has doomed us to perish and given us poisoned water to drink, because we have sinned against him.

15 We hoped for peace but no good has come, for a time of healing but there was only terror.

16 The snorting of the enemy's horses is heard from Dan; at the neighing of their stallions the whole land trembles. They have come to devour the land and everything in it, the city and all who live there.

17 See, I will send venomous snakes among you, vipers that cannot be charmed, and they will bite you, declares the LORD.

Love your Enemy
And Heap Burning Coals on his Head!!!
http://net-burst.net/revenge/love_and_wrath_of_God.htm

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Re: The West is Wrong on Kosovo
« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2007, 11:12:38 AM »
The west was wrong FROM THE BEGINNING of the former-yugoslav war.

in the case of serbia - wrong since WW2 when they supported TITO over CETNIKS!  Cetniks helped save American soliders in the war too, while Albanians were sucking on nazi balls.  and this is how they repay us???
All or nothing.