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Re: Cyrillic or Latin as standard for serbian people?
« Reply #25 on: December 06, 2007, 09:12:24 AM »
You see, nothing wrong/bad, in discussing a bit...

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"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: Cyrillic or Latin as standard for serbian people?
« Reply #26 on: December 06, 2007, 12:56:54 PM »
I'm starting to think that serbian armys account is hacked :p
Бог нам помого. Али богами Срби изгледа да нећемо нигде стићи ако се не зложимо. Не смемо заборавити да;

Само Слога Србина Спашава!!!

Али морамо да верујемо у Бога!!!

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Re: Cyrillic or Latin as standard for serbian people?
« Reply #27 on: December 06, 2007, 12:58:00 PM »
I'm starting to think that serbian armys account is hacked :p

Its "nick" is an INSULT to Serbdom.
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: Cyrillic or Latin as standard for serbian people?
« Reply #28 on: December 09, 2007, 01:24:33 PM »
i was give choice, i stated my opinion, why would you give that option if you are going to insult anybody who accepts it :-\
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Re: Cyrillic or Latin as standard for serbian people?
« Reply #29 on: December 09, 2007, 01:52:46 PM »
My country was ocupied by 125 years by ortodox Russia, Cosacs who organised anti jewish pogroms were very zeelous ortodox christians too, Shud I blame all ortodox people including Serbs, Greek, Romanians and Bulgars for this? Prussia another ocupant was protestant but I don't blame Dutch or Danes for their germanization effort; the thrid most leniant and weakest ocuppant was catholic Austro-Hungary but I dont blame Italians or Spaniards. Petty nationalism will make us fall to oustside invaders Muslim or Chineese.
Jeremiah 8:11-17

11 They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. Peace, peace, they say, when there is no peace.

12 Are they ashamed of their loathsome conduct? No, they have no shame at all; they do not even know how to blush. So they will fall among the fallen; they will be brought down when they are punished, says the LORD.

13 'I will take away their harvest, declares the LORD. There will be no grapes on the vine. There will be no figs on the tree, and their leaves will wither. What I have given them will be taken from them.'

14 Why are we sitting here? Gather together! Let us flee to the fortified cities and perish there! For the LORD our God has doomed us to perish and given us poisoned water to drink, because we have sinned against him.

15 We hoped for peace but no good has come, for a time of healing but there was only terror.

16 The snorting of the enemy's horses is heard from Dan; at the neighing of their stallions the whole land trembles. They have come to devour the land and everything in it, the city and all who live there.

17 See, I will send venomous snakes among you, vipers that cannot be charmed, and they will bite you, declares the LORD.

Love your Enemy
And Heap Burning Coals on his Head!!!
http://net-burst.net/revenge/love_and_wrath_of_God.htm

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Re: Cyrillic or Latin as standard for serbian people?
« Reply #30 on: December 09, 2007, 02:06:50 PM »
Are you surprised that Russia invaded poland after what Poland and the Teutonic order(germans) did to Novgorod? Tried to forcefully convert the entire baltikum and Russia

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Re: Cyrillic or Latin as standard for serbian people?
« Reply #31 on: December 09, 2007, 02:15:51 PM »
, Cosacs who organised anti jewish pogroms were very zeelous ortodox christians too

Propaganda.
Cosacs are not anti semetic.
They are anti communists and anti fascists!

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Re: Cyrillic or Latin as standard for serbian people?
« Reply #32 on: December 09, 2007, 02:27:02 PM »
, Cosacs who organised anti jewish pogroms were very zeelous ortodox christians too

Propaganda.
Cosacs are not anti semetic.
They are anti communists and anti fascists!

Cossacs were among the most anti-semitic people in Russia. There were also Cossac units fighting FOR hitler (Y'S) in WW2.

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Re: Cyrillic or Latin as standard for serbian people?
« Reply #33 on: December 09, 2007, 02:38:12 PM »
Cossacs were among the most anti-semitic people in Russia. There were also Cossac units fighting FOR hitler (Y'S) in WW2.

The Cossacks who came in Krajina in 1991 were 100% anti German and pro Slavic and orthodox. They represented the real Cossack movement. If they were Hitlers warriors or supporters they would not volunteer in the Krajina army but in the Croatian guard.
They were the only volunteer united who came to Krajina. The volunteers from other European countries were 100% Nazi oriented and fought for Croatia.

The Cossacks protected Russia centuries long from invaders from outside.

The ideology of the Cossack movement is pro Russian, Orthodox and Slavic.
If some people fear the Cossacks because they want to united the Slavic people that's something else.

This ideology is 100% opposite of Nazism or Germanism.

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Re: Cyrillic or Latin as standard for serbian people?
« Reply #34 on: December 09, 2007, 02:41:30 PM »
Are you surprised that Russia invaded poland after what Poland and the Teutonic order(germans) did to Novgorod? Tried to forcefully convert the entire baltikum and Russia

Wrong Again; Poland with Lithuenia faught agianst Teutonic order and defeated it; you have to hear about Grunwald/Tanenberg 1410; and Novogrod Republic and Principality was sucked and anexed by Grand Duchy of Muscowy the precursor of Imperial Russia in XVI century.   
Jeremiah 8:11-17

11 They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. Peace, peace, they say, when there is no peace.

12 Are they ashamed of their loathsome conduct? No, they have no shame at all; they do not even know how to blush. So they will fall among the fallen; they will be brought down when they are punished, says the LORD.

13 'I will take away their harvest, declares the LORD. There will be no grapes on the vine. There will be no figs on the tree, and their leaves will wither. What I have given them will be taken from them.'

14 Why are we sitting here? Gather together! Let us flee to the fortified cities and perish there! For the LORD our God has doomed us to perish and given us poisoned water to drink, because we have sinned against him.

15 We hoped for peace but no good has come, for a time of healing but there was only terror.

16 The snorting of the enemy's horses is heard from Dan; at the neighing of their stallions the whole land trembles. They have come to devour the land and everything in it, the city and all who live there.

17 See, I will send venomous snakes among you, vipers that cannot be charmed, and they will bite you, declares the LORD.

Love your Enemy
And Heap Burning Coals on his Head!!!
http://net-burst.net/revenge/love_and_wrath_of_God.htm

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Re: Cyrillic or Latin as standard for serbian people?
« Reply #35 on: December 09, 2007, 02:44:19 PM »
Although the thread went different way - I believe Cyrillic is way better and should be the standard. (It is the official script of Serbia, but should be used more often.)
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Re: Cyrillic or Latin as standard for serbian people?
« Reply #36 on: December 09, 2007, 05:30:18 PM »
Are you surprised that Russia invaded poland after what Poland and the Teutonic order(germans) did to Novgorod? Tried to forcefully convert the entire baltikum and Russia

Wrong Again; Poland with Lithuenia faught agianst Teutonic order and defeated it; you have to hear about Grunwald/Tanenberg 1410; and Novogrod Republic and Principality was sucked and anexed by Grand Duchy of Muscowy the precursor of Imperial Russia in XVI century.   

Yeah but that was after that Teutonic order backstabbed you;)

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Re: Cyrillic or Latin as standard for serbian people?
« Reply #37 on: December 09, 2007, 07:30:44 PM »
Cossacs were among the most anti-semitic people in Russia. There were also Cossac units fighting FOR hitler (Y'S) in WW2.

The Cossacks who came in Krajina in 1991 were 100% anti German and pro Slavic and orthodox. They represented the real Cossack movement. If they were Hitlers warriors or supporters they would not volunteer in the Krajina army but in the Croatian guard.
They were the only volunteer united who came to Krajina. The volunteers from other European countries were 100% Nazi oriented and fought for Croatia.

The Cossacks protected Russia centuries long from invaders from outside.

The ideology of the Cossack movement is pro Russian, Orthodox and Slavic.
If some people fear the Cossacks because they want to united the Slavic people that's something else.

This ideology is 100% opposite of Nazism or Germanism.

Both are right.
Cossacks_and_Goebels

But try to study what communists did to the Cossacks.
It explains why they defected.
They were hating the communists as they were genocidised in the 20ties by the red Army , starved to death in concentration camps.
Cossack ideology is not racist, it is truly democratic avant la lettre!
I will perhaps visit the Cossacks region in the south next year, so I'll tell you more.

Putin :

At the same time many attempts were made to increase the Cossack impact on Russian society and throughout the 1990s many regional authorities agreed to hand over some local administration and policing duties to the Cossacks. However in April 2005, Russian President Vladimir Putin introduced a bill "On the State Service of the Russian Cossacks" (O gosudarstvennoy sluzhbe rossiyskogo kazachestva) to the State Duma, which was passed in the first reading on May 18, 2005. For the first time in decades the Cossacks were recognised as not only a distinct ethnocultural entity but also as a potent military service. Although their full ambition to administer wholly the territory stretching from Transdniester all the way along the steppe to the Ural River might be distant, the bill made a significant step towards achieving it

I pray Cossack's rebirth may mark the beginning of an effort to expel all muslimdogs from Russia!


http://www.armymuseum.ru/kaz1_e.html
http://www.cossackdom.com/
http://napoleonistyka.atspace.com/cossacks.htm
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Re: Cyrillic or Latin as standard for serbian people?
« Reply #38 on: December 09, 2007, 07:46:30 PM »
Just to tell, I support the Cossacks as much as the Serbians.

I don't deny they killed Jews during history.

"If Napoleon had had Cossacks in his army
he'd have been Emperor of China long ago."
- Cossack officer to Caulaincourt in 1812
"Cossacks are the best light troops among all that exist.
If I had then in my army, I would go through all the world with them."
- Napoleon
"These organised bandits are wily. They do not like infantry fire very much
they detest artillery, but when they are three to one they become impudent."
- Schwarzenberg, Austrian commander




Quote
Cossacks vs. Bolchevicks
This war lasted for more than three years, from 1917 to 1920, and it was conducted with great ruthlessness on both sides. The Cossacks fought with desperate courage against an enemy twenty-two times superior in number. The position of the Cossacks was made all the more difficult because they possessed practically no war industry and no arsenals. Particularly in the first phase of this war, the Cossacks knew of only one method of arming themselves — it was to capture arms from the enemy. Literally the entire population of the Cossack states, including the women, took part in defending their land and freedom from the Bolsheviks. The Cossacks suffered tremendous losses in that war; every Cossack home had its share of dead and maimed. As a rule the Reds burned every Cossack farm and house that offered them resistance. After three years of a desperate and hopeless struggle, the Cossacks and their allies, the "White," their resources exhausted, were defeated. Their land was occupied by their mortal enemies, the Communists.
http://www.armymuseum.ru/kaz1_e.html


Under the Sickle and Hammer
Those Cossacks who had remained in Russia after their defeat in 1920, the families, the kin of those few who had managed to escape, and all those who had been in the ranks and whose regiments were cut off from the ports of embarkation, had to live under the stiff yoke of their conquerors. Their leaders and the heads of families were the first to be liquidated in the dreaded chambers of the Gheka and the OGPU; their families were split and dispersed; newcomers, faithful followers of Lenin and veterans of the Red Guard, were settled in Cossack homes. All who were allowed to stay in their stanitzas were forced to become virtual slaves in the collective farms and factories; they were forbidden to wear their traditional dress; their regiments were disbanded and their young men had to serve in Red Army units. The pressure on them was terrific, but even then the Cossacks refused to give I'n and continued their usually passive, but at time violently active resistance to the masters of the Russian people. They became experts in sabotage and hiding their identities. From time to time such passive resistance would erupt into a violent revolt, with public executions of the most hated members of the secret police and the special punitive units. As a result of repeated uprisings from 1922 to 1937, the Cossacks were officially decreed by the Kremlin to be enemies of the Soviet State, and as such, subject to an absolute and complete liquidation. Every means were used by the Bolsheviks to exterminate the Cossacks, including a famine, artificially created by trusted lieutenants of Stalin in 1922 and again in 1933. In consequence, close to four million Cossacks perished or disappeared in the years between 1920 and 1940, from famine and privation, in resisting forced collectivization, in rebellions and riots, and in the slave labor camps of Siberia and the Far East.
And yet their spirit could not be crushed, and those Cossacks who managed to survive the terror and escape the clutches of the Soviet secret police, held high the torch of their determination to win back their freedom and their independent way of life. They beliwed that their hour had come when Hitler's armies in 1940 advanced toward the lands of the Cossacks as liberators of Russia from the tyranny of Communism. Town after town and village after village greeted the Germans with flowers and the traditional Russian "bread and salt." The Red Army soldiers surrendered by whole divisions, without offering any resistance to the advancing German patrols. By the thousands the younger Cossacks joined the ranks of Hitler's auxiliaries "to get even with the Communists." Alas, very soon they saw the true face of Hitler's "supermen/ but it was already too late for them to turn back. When the Germans began their frozen exodus from the Cossack steppes, the whole Cossack population left their homes and., with women and children, on foot and in horse carts, went into exile. Nearly 150,000 Cossacks retreated with the Germans from Russia. The price they paid for the paradox of having their sympathy with the Western Allies and actually fighting alongside Hitler's regiments was truly appalling; thousands upon thousands of these unfortunates fell into the hands of the rapidly advancing units of the Red Army; their fate invariably was exile to the concentration camps in the Far North, and systematic, planned extermination by cold and starvation. Others died from huger and from the bullets of red partisans in the forests of White Russia and Poland. The survivors, who fled to sections of Austria and Germany, which fell to the advancing allied divisions, finally found themselves interned in the former camps for Hitler's forced labor. There a great many of these Germans found their fathers and older friends who had escaped from the Reds twenty-two years before, at the end of the civil war against the Bolsheviks.


BETRAYAL OF COSSACKS AT LIENTZ, Austria, June 1945. Painting by S.G.Korolkoff
Three days later, on June 1, 1945, the rank and file of this group of Cossacks, 32,000 men, women and children(!), were similarly bayonetted by the British into cattle cars and camions, and delivered to the Bolsheviks, by them to be taken back to the Soviet Union, there to work and die as slaves of the "Great Father of the Peoples," Joseph Stalin. Similar scenes were enacted in the same year, 1945, in the American Zone of Occupation, in Austria and Germany. Many more thousands of Cossacks were beaten by rifle butts into waiting Soviet trucks and trains. Close to 45,000 Cossacks were in this manner "repatriated" into the land of their executioners. However, a great many Cossacks succeeded in fleeing these extraditions and hid themselves in the forests and mountains; many were saved by the local German population; but the greatest number of the escapees found safety and salvation in changing their identity, disguising themselves as Ukrainians, Latvians, Poles, Yugoslavians, Turks, Armenians and even Ethiopians.
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Re: Cyrillic or Latin as standard for serbian people?
« Reply #39 on: December 10, 2007, 01:31:52 PM »
Ambiorix

Thanks for your support and thanks a lot for the information about the heroic Cosacks!


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Re: Cyrillic or Latin as standard for serbian people?
« Reply #40 on: December 10, 2007, 06:23:15 PM »
Ultra Requete in black,
Husar in red:

"My country was ocupied by 125 years by ortodox Russia, Cosacs who organised anti jewish pogroms were very zeelous ortodox christians too, Shud I blame all ortodox people including Serbs,

If you include Serbs: you're absolutely WRONG.

Greek, Romanians and Bulgars

These ones neither, never occupied Poland, you'd be WRONG, anew.

for this? Prussia another ocupant was protestant

Prussia was Slavic,
dear polish brother...then germanicized,
protestanticized....


but I don't blame Dutch or Danes for their germanization effort;

Why not encouraging them ?

the thrid most leniant and weakest ocuppant was catholic Austro-Hungary but I dont blame Italians or Spaniards.

Italians fought against austro-hungary, during WWI, alongside Serbia.

Petty nationalism will make us fall to oustside invaders Muslim or Chineese."

This "petty nationalism" you do blame is the work
of NAZICROATS, ALBANAZIS, NAZIMAGYARS,
not of the Serbs.
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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