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Outcome of the lawsuit filed by 4 Israelis arrested in the USA on 9/11
Zelhar:
--- Quote from: Yochanan on November 24, 2006, 07:31:49 AM ---So anyone knows what was the outcome of the lawsuit filed by 4 Israelis arrested in the USA on 9/11??? I need the info to answer a bunch of antisemites locally!
There is no conspiracies other than muslim in terror attacks. G-d bless America.
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I think they were deported to Israel but without legal charges.
davkakach:
--- Quote from: El Cabong! on November 23, 2006, 08:53:13 PM ---
--- Quote from: davkakach on November 22, 2006, 11:59:44 AM ---9/11 was punishment meted out to the U.S. by G-d for defaming the most righteous and pious Jew of this generation---Rabbi Meir Kahane---and for the terrible injustice of acquitting his Yishmaelite murderer. 9/11 was self-inflicted, in the sense that if the FBI bothered to translate all the documents in Arabic seized at Al Said Nosair's New Jersey apartment, they would have prevented not only 9/11/2001 but also the 1993 bombing of the WTC. They didn't bother investigating Rabbi Kahane's murder because they regarded him as a "Zionist", "fascist", "zealot" and a trouble-maker. We all paid for this arrogance.
As long as Rabbi Kahane's honor and righteous legacy continue to be trampled by the American media and politicians, and as long as the former JDL is considered by the Department of State to have been a terrorist organization, one tragic disaster will befall the U.S. after another.
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Wow that is one big bullshiite argument. Blame the USA. You suddenly sound like a muslim, leftist and liberal. I never thought you guys would even say such a thing. Imagine if someone said that about suicide bombers in Israel, that it was G-d punishing Jews. I have lost respect for any and all who preach such a ridiculous conspiracy theory. Being pissed off at Kahane's murder and the non-investigation is no reason to turn on this country and say such crap. Please let me know how many of you believe the crap above.
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Of course when suicide bombers kill Israelis, it is G-d punishing Jews! The whole purpose of the existence of the Yishmaelites in this world is to serve as a punishment mechanism for Jews who stray from G-d's path. Please study the Scriptures, before you accuse me of being a leftist or liberal---you come across as a typical Bushbot, when you dismiss any suggestion for a collective, national introspection as treason. I'm sorry if you're an atheist and that involving G-d in this, or in anything else for that matter, seems to you like a conspiracy theory, but though every human being is endowed with free will to choose between Good and Evil, G-d does govern this world. Since 1967, American leaders have been applying pressure for decades on Israeli leaders to make suicidal concessions to murderous muzzie beasts, unfortunately with great success. Of course, blame lies primarily on the spineless, faithless Israeli leaders, who regard the occupant of the White House as their god, but do you think that G-d ignores American involvement and lets it go unpunished?! Do you think that the gradual progression of disasters befalling the U.S., from the killing of 241 GIs in the Marine Barracks in Lebanon, to thousands of civilians perishing in 9/11 and subsequently thousands of GIs perishing in the streets of Iraq is a mere coincidence?!
I would have much more respect for the American leadership if they deported all American Jewry to Israel and stopped giving aid to Israel, as opposed to the current situation where Israel is treated as a subservient vassal state, a basket case, a pawn in the game of chess that the short-sighted, Jewish and non-Jewish CFR neocons play in the Middle East. The Scriptures and history are rife with examples of collective punishment (which you may not necessarily view as punishment but simply consequences of bad policies). Whether you view collective punishment as just or unjust is irrelevant. 9/11 happened only because G-d decided that it must happen. As for the reasons for His decision---that's open for debate. Maybe the reasons I proposed are invalid, and not the primary cause. But your general attitude of shifting responsibility from yourself (or the U.S.) to the muzzies---is wrong, at least in my opinion. The muzzies are irrelevant, they are garbage, they are nothing. They are empowered by G-d because, in my opinion, he uses them as tools to teach us an important lesson. You seem to completely miss this. If it weren't muzzies, it would be something else. Jihadist terrorism is not the problem, it is merely a symptom. The problem is much deeper.
I, as a Jew, see G-d's hand in everything. And if something bad happens to me, first I blame myself, and engage in introspection to determine why I was punished, and that is the attitude that is encouraged by the Scriptures and the Oral Tradition and various writings of our sages. As a secular gentile, you might operate under a different set of guidelines, finding blame elsewhere. Today it is the evil muzzies. Tomorrow it will be the evil, commie Chinese and immoral Russians. Instead of invading Iraq while buying Arab oil, shouldn't we just stop buying Arab oil? Instead of condemning Chinese human rights abuses while importing Chinese products (and sinking deeper into impossible debts), shouldn't we stop buying Chinese goods and begin to re-invigorate our domestic economy and industrial base?
History has a broad scope, and it didn't begin on 9/11. The same patterns repeat over and over again, because people don't learn.
El Cabong!:
If you believe in G-d so much then you would believe it is the EVIL in men that caused this and not that it was allowed to happen. All of a sudden G-d gets the blame for doing because of America. This is absurdity take to a new level. It was muslims who caused 9/11 and the unpreparedness of naive people and the freedoms of this country that all came together to facilitate the knocking down of the towers. But without the muslim animals flying the planes into it, they'd still be up. We are here on earth to be judged by actions. The final punishment will come one day.
MassuhDGoodName:
Re: "...I lost over 50 family members to the Holocaust. Are you suggesting G-d was trying to teach them a lesson? If you believe this, then your worldview is incredibly warped. ..."
I indeed am suggesting that the 2000 year history of persecution of Jews by the many nations in which we lived as exiles, was the Hand of Ha'Shem dealing with us for violating our Torah Covenant with Him.
Rabbi Meir Kahane also declared this to an audience of gathered American rabbis; stating that the Holocaust was God's curse against us.
The astonished "Jewish leaders" quite audibly gasped aloud, and then one asked the following question:
"Rabbi Kahane, are you suggesting that the Holocaust was actually God's curse against the Jews?"
"Are you suggesting that it was instead a Blessing???"
...responded Kahane; leaving the entire room speechless, unable to proffer a "comeback", and obviously disturbed at the prospect of facing a most unpleasant Truth.
Jews believe that our God acts through history.
We have always believed this, and without this unique concept the Jewish People do not exist.
The current "situation" with PLO terrorists is also the Hand of Ha'Shem against us; we refuse to accept Him and acknowledge the Covenant of Torah, which commands us to settle our Land in entirety, and annihilate Amalek in every generation.
Or; are there any readers out there who are suggesting that Mohammedan Terror against the Jews and the rest of the world is a great "Blessing"???
p.s.--funny thing how many Jews accept without question Al Gore's pseudo-scientific "unpleasant truth" about climate change, yet (as always) will react with sheer rage at the mere suggestion that we Jews are to be cursed until fulfilling our end of a 5,000 yr. old Eternal Covenant with the One True God of Israel Who succinctly listed in detail what was to befall us should we violate our contract with Him. Every single clause of the Curse against us has been and is continuing to be acted out to the letter. Go read it for yourself.
Christian Zionist:
God did not punish America on 9/11...... I agree!
But God definitely did NOT protect America on 9/11. It was a wake up call to Amercia to turn to the God of the Bible!
Unfortunately that muslim appeasing scum Bush pressed the snooze button!
Even Steve Emerson in his famous documentary "Jihad in America" proves that the failure of FBI to investigate Rabbi Kahane's murder lead to the first world trade center boming in 1993.
If America continue to support the abortion holocaust, fag rights, pressuring little Israel to committ suicide and aiding the PLO terrorrists, in future God would remove HIS hands of protection over America to a greater extent!
If we read the book of Judges in the Bible it is clear whenever the ancient Jews turned away from God they were attacked and plundered by their enemies.
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