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Is it a good idea to have sex ed?
Dr. Dan:
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--- Quote from: Just Erica on February 03, 2008, 04:21:29 AM ---
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--- Quote from: Just Erica on February 03, 2008, 04:05:03 AM ---
Also, you compare Africa and African Americans ALL of the time. You compare Jews to African Americans all of the time. But you never bring up some of the evil white people who do the same thing. Your mantra here is basically "It's not as bad as when blacks do it..." How insanely dumb that thought is. EVIL IS EVIL IS EVIL no matter what color, or community you live in.
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Erica, I've explained the principle of proportionality to you 500 times. Do you want me to start with the statistics again to prove it?
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I've explained to you that I know about the statistics already. I've told you that over and over and over ...and yet OVER again. But from MY perspective, I can only give you what I know to be true. All of this "Your evil is worse than MY evil" talk is tiring. I'll continue to do what I have to do to make sure that my kids are part of the solution. You do what you do best... complain, lament, compare, weigh, analyze... in the end, you're still no better than anyone else in this world. And neither am I.
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You're twisting and evading the issue again.
NOBODY at JTF has said white crimes are less evil than black crimes. Where did you get that idea?
A white mugger is EQUALLY as bad as a black mugger. A white rapist is EQUALLY as bad as a black rapist. Right?
What we ARE saying is that a much much greater proportion of the black community are muggers and rapists compared to the proportion of muggers & rapists in the white community. If you're familiar with the statistics you would know this to be true.
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You don't have to SAY, "white crimes are less evil...". My problem with you and your cohorts is that you don't bash everyone who commits the same crimes. You convienently leave evil whites out...and you say that it's because so little of the population is doing it. Let me explain something to you. When I prepare my kids for school each day I constantly worry about their safety when I'm not in their presence...not because of how many blacks commit crimes but because there are evil period looking to victimize little kids. I dont' send them out of the house warning them about the precentages. I send them to school hoping that they'll be cautious because ANYONE could hurt them. I know about the stats. I NEVER denied that.
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erica we do bash everyone..even fellow jews.
We might dis blacks more than whites..but the reality is that we do it 89% more times than we do for whites...That, my friend, is the true definition of equality...
newman:
--- Quote from: Just Erica on February 03, 2008, 12:34:34 PM ---
--- Quote from: newman on February 03, 2008, 04:27:24 AM ---
You're twisting and evading the issue again.
NOBODY at JTF has said white crimes are less evil than black crimes. Where did you get that idea?
A white mugger is EQUALLY as bad as a black mugger. A white rapist is EQUALLY as bad as a black rapist. Right?
What we ARE saying is that a much much greater proportion of the black community are muggers and rapists compared to the proportion of muggers & rapists in the white community. If you're familiar with the statistics you would know this to be true.
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You don't have to SAY, "white crimes are less evil...". My problem with you and your cohorts is that you don't bash everyone who commits the same crimes. You convienently leave evil whites out...and you say that it's because so little of the population is doing it. Let me explain something to you. When I prepare my kids for school each day I constantly worry about their safety when I'm not in their presence...not because of how many blacks commit crimes but because there are evil period looking to victimize little kids. I dont' send them out of the house warning them about the precentages. I send them to school hoping that they'll be cautious because ANYONE could hurt them. I know about the stats. I NEVER denied that.
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Why would we bash two communities equally when their proportional levels are criminality are so different?
Does the better business bureau attack two building companies 'equally' when one builds 1 bad house out of 100 and another builds 50 bad houses out of 100?
I don't think so................
q_q_:
--- Quote from: Kiwi on December 30, 2007, 08:49:32 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on December 30, 2007, 08:04:33 PM ---
Well it's good to follow the halakha when one is married..however, what the husband and wife do in the privacy of their home is not even Gd's business.
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So you are saying you can do what ever you like, as long as its behind closed doors and no one sees?
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I was once told that a boy in school was challenging this very religious, but worldly rabbi with crazy questions.. and he asked.. What should a man do if he is married, but he is gay.. And does not find the wife attractive.
The Rabbi , who had insisted that we have an answer for everything, had to answer ! He said, the woman can turn over - as long as she does not find that undignified/humiliating.
So.. maybe you cannot do -anything- from what he said it seems that you cannot dishonour the wife in the bedroom!
I think you`re also not meant to use condoms. And the commandment is to be fruitful and multiply, so other forms of sex would not cut it. Though I guess they would not be prohibited
newman:
--- Quote from: q_q_ on February 03, 2008, 10:51:40 PM ---
--- Quote from: Kiwi on December 30, 2007, 08:49:32 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on December 30, 2007, 08:04:33 PM ---
Well it's good to follow the halakha when one is married..however, what the husband and wife do in the privacy of their home is not even Gd's business.
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So you are saying you can do what ever you like, as long as its behind closed doors and no one sees?
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I was once told that a boy in school was challenging this very religious, but worldly rabbi with crazy questions.. and he asked.. What should a man do if he is married, but he is gay.. And does not find the wife attractive.
The Rabbi , who had insisted that we have an answer for everything, had to answer ! He said, the woman can turn over - as long as she does not find that undignified/humiliating.
So.. maybe you cannot do -anything- from what he said it seems that you cannot dishonour the wife in the bedroom!
I think you`re also not meant to use condoms. And the commandment is to be fruitful and multiply, so other forms of sex would not cut it. Though I guess they would not be prohibited
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There's an online book about Kosher sex and it said 'unnatural sex' is permitted between a husband and wife 'occasionally' if it helps maintain romantic interest but it cannot be performed 'all the time'.
OdKahaneChai:
--- Quote from: newman on February 03, 2008, 11:01:01 PM ---
--- Quote from: q_q_ on February 03, 2008, 10:51:40 PM ---
--- Quote from: Kiwi on December 30, 2007, 08:49:32 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on December 30, 2007, 08:04:33 PM ---
Well it's good to follow the halakha when one is married..however, what the husband and wife do in the privacy of their home is not even Gd's business.
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So you are saying you can do what ever you like, as long as its behind closed doors and no one sees?
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I was once told that a boy in school was challenging this very religious, but worldly rabbi with crazy questions.. and he asked.. What should a man do if he is married, but he is gay.. And does not find the wife attractive.
The Rabbi , who had insisted that we have an answer for everything, had to answer ! He said, the woman can turn over - as long as she does not find that undignified/humiliating.
So.. maybe you cannot do -anything- from what he said it seems that you cannot dishonour the wife in the bedroom!
I think you`re also not meant to use condoms. And the commandment is to be fruitful and multiply, so other forms of sex would not cut it. Though I guess they would not be prohibited
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There's an online book about Kosher sex and it said 'unnatural sex' is permitted between a husband and wife 'occasionally' if it helps maintain romantic interest but it cannot be performed 'all the time'.
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That sounds very treif to me...
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