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JTFFan:

--- Quote from: There Are No 'Israeli' Arabs on January 25, 2008, 12:00:08 PM ---
--- Quote from: Just Erica on January 25, 2008, 03:31:41 AM ---
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on January 21, 2008, 12:20:21 PM ---
--- Quote from: newman on January 21, 2008, 08:53:04 AM ---
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on January 21, 2008, 07:36:49 AM ---
--- Quote from: newman on January 21, 2008, 06:59:04 AM ---It occurs to me that since sex education in schools was introduced we have more bastard babies, rape and abortion than we had when people were (supposedly) ignorant of it.

Why not 'Social Responsibility' classes that teach black hos in the inner cities not to scatter bastard babies all over the ghetto?

--- End quote ---

Not necessarily true. 



--- End quote ---

Are you kidding?

Wanna compare statistics from 1957 to 2007?

--- End quote ---

Your claim that it is this way is because of sex education class...

My claim that it isn't necessarily because of sex education class...there is something else in the air that might have also caused a lot of teenage pregnancies.  I prefer to blame it on the moral decay and inability to use morality properly by our government and Hollywood's glorification of things like children out of wetlock.

--- End quote ---
I agree with you, Dr. Dan. I think some people get "Sex Education" mixed up with "How to Have Sex" education. This attitude is precisely the reason why so many parents refuse to talk to their children about sex; they're too afraid that the info they give would be like reading a "How To" manual. I've actually seen a lot of children grow up where whenever the word sex was said in the household, they would be beaten to a pulp because "sex" is supposed to be a bad word.

What creates young teen moms (black, white, yellow, pink or green) is the lack of information about safe sex, or abstainence.

--- End quote ---

Sex needs to be taught maturely by parents before the stupid liberal schools brainwash their children.

--- End quote ---

Exactly, enough of the P.C. KKKommunist Sex Education SSchool books! >:(

Just Erica:

--- Quote from: There Are No 'Israeli' Arabs on January 25, 2008, 12:00:08 PM ---
--- Quote from: Just Erica on January 25, 2008, 03:31:41 AM ---
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on January 21, 2008, 12:20:21 PM ---
--- Quote from: newman on January 21, 2008, 08:53:04 AM ---
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on January 21, 2008, 07:36:49 AM ---
--- Quote from: newman on January 21, 2008, 06:59:04 AM ---It occurs to me that since sex education in schools was introduced we have more bastard babies, rape and abortion than we had when people were (supposedly) ignorant of it.

Why not 'Social Responsibility' classes that teach black hos in the inner cities not to scatter bastard babies all over the ghetto?

--- End quote ---

Not necessarily true. 



--- End quote ---

Are you kidding?

Wanna compare statistics from 1957 to 2007?

--- End quote ---

Your claim that it is this way is because of sex education class...

My claim that it isn't necessarily because of sex education class...there is something else in the air that might have also caused a lot of teenage pregnancies.  I prefer to blame it on the moral decay and inability to use morality properly by our government and Hollywood's glorification of things like children out of wetlock.

--- End quote ---
I agree with you, Dr. Dan. I think some people get "Sex Education" mixed up with "How to Have Sex" education. This attitude is precisely the reason why so many parents refuse to talk to their children about sex; they're too afraid that the info they give would be like reading a "How To" manual. I've actually seen a lot of children grow up where whenever the word sex was said in the household, they would be beaten to a pulp because "sex" is supposed to be a bad word.

What creates young teen moms (black, white, yellow, pink or green) is the lack of information about safe sex, or abstainence.

--- End quote ---

Sex needs to be taught maturely by parents before the stupid liberal schools brainwash their children.

--- End quote ---
How can schools brainwash children with the truth? What do you think these classes teach children? And another thing... sex is so taboo, that parents these days regard the word as 'dirty'. What do you suggest when parents WON'T speak to their children about sex, because they're prudes? How else should they learn?

Just Erica:

--- Quote from: There Are No 'Israeli' Arabs on January 27, 2008, 01:14:17 AM ---
--- Quote from: Just Erica on January 26, 2008, 09:06:19 PM ---
--- Quote from: There Are No 'Israeli' Arabs on January 25, 2008, 12:00:08 PM ---
--- Quote from: Just Erica on January 25, 2008, 03:31:41 AM ---
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on January 21, 2008, 12:20:21 PM ---
--- Quote from: newman on January 21, 2008, 08:53:04 AM ---
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on January 21, 2008, 07:36:49 AM ---
--- Quote from: newman on January 21, 2008, 06:59:04 AM ---It occurs to me that since sex education in schools was introduced we have more bastard babies, rape and abortion than we had when people were (supposedly) ignorant of it.

Why not 'Social Responsibility' classes that teach black hos in the inner cities not to scatter bastard babies all over the ghetto?

--- End quote ---

Not necessarily true. 



--- End quote ---

Are you kidding?

Wanna compare statistics from 1957 to 2007?

--- End quote ---

Your claim that it is this way is because of sex education class...

My claim that it isn't necessarily because of sex education class...there is something else in the air that might have also caused a lot of teenage pregnancies.  I prefer to blame it on the moral decay and inability to use morality properly by our government and Hollywood's glorification of things like children out of wetlock.

--- End quote ---
I agree with you, Dr. Dan. I think some people get "Sex Education" mixed up with "How to Have Sex" education. This attitude is precisely the reason why so many parents refuse to talk to their children about sex; they're too afraid that the info they give would be like reading a "How To" manual. I've actually seen a lot of children grow up where whenever the word sex was said in the household, they would be beaten to a pulp because "sex" is supposed to be a bad word.

What creates young teen moms (black, white, yellow, pink or green) is the lack of information about safe sex, or abstainence.

--- End quote ---

Sex needs to be taught maturely by parents before the stupid liberal schools brainwash their children.

--- End quote ---
How can schools brainwash children with the truth? What do you think these classes teach children? And another thing... sex is so taboo, that parents these days regard the word as 'dirty'. What do you suggest when parents WON'T speak to their children about sex, because they're prudes? How else should they learn?

--- End quote ---

Because schools encourage their students to have abortions, unhealthy birth control pills, condoms, flavored condoms, pre-marital relations, sodomy, cunnilingus, fellatio, masturbation, and to view pornography. Is there room for marriage in their astute vocabularies?

Why do they need to learn? If the teaching of this holy act between a husband and wife is not for the sake of (in the case of Jews) Jewish law, or not for the sake of (in the case of both Jews and goyim) instilling the correct values, how to treat a woman not like a piece of meat that can be chewed or thrown away, how to conduct oneself in marriage, then for what grand purpose do they need to learn?

Take a look at the statistics of your own community and ask me again if you think public school sex education benefitted them.

--- End quote ---
First of all, that's not what sex ed teaches children in school. NONE of that. You think that people who teach sex ed are telling them HOW to have sex ...and you're wrong. I had sex ed in school and what they taught girls and boys were about the changes in their bodies. What? do you think that when kids become adolesants that they don't have sexual curiosities? Boys have unspeakable things happen to them when they are asked to stand up in class (during the puberty stage)...Most girls when they start their menses usually start in school while in class. These are things that happen in the human body.

What I learned in sex ed was not only what condoms do but why it was important to save myself. I (we) learned what STD's LOOK like (which turned off A LOT OF KIDS from THINKING about sex again until they were responsible enough to protect themselves. The boys learned that respecting women, and girls is important and that girls should never be pressured into sex. Girls learned to value themselves and their bodies.

I know that in your religion that a lot of things are frowned upon that would be tolerated outside of your religion. I understand that and respect that. However, in this instance, if parents don't say a word to their children about sex (because children as early as 5 years old are naturally curious) they will learn somewhere unfavorable; for instance, friends who don't know what they're talking about but can tell them how it felt.

We can't go throughout life telling our kids that they'll die if they have sex. That's not necessarily true. Sex is a beautiful when shared between two consenting adults in a monogomous relationship; and shouldn't be entered into lightly because feelings are involved: When you're too young to even name your feelings. It is best to save yourself for the one you're going to be with for the rest of your life. *But guess what? Most teenagers don't wait.*

I don't know where you got the idea that sex education had ANYTHING to do with teaching children about cunniligus, and such. That's just crazy! And as far as checking "my community", why don't we take a poll on every community where teenagers and their raging hormones reside. Premarital sex doesn't only happen in the black community. *And just because it happens a LOT in the black community, it doesn't mute the fact that children and young adults in other communities are doing the same thing.

If you want to stop children from having sex too early, talk to them as if they have half a brain...not like they're pod people.

Just Erica:

--- Quote from: There Are No 'Israeli' Arabs on January 27, 2008, 09:11:18 PM ---
--- Quote from: Just Erica on January 27, 2008, 02:26:08 AM ---
--- Quote from: There Are No 'Israeli' Arabs on January 27, 2008, 01:14:17 AM ---
--- Quote from: Just Erica on January 26, 2008, 09:06:19 PM ---
--- Quote from: There Are No 'Israeli' Arabs on January 25, 2008, 12:00:08 PM ---
--- Quote from: Just Erica on January 25, 2008, 03:31:41 AM ---
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on January 21, 2008, 12:20:21 PM ---
--- Quote from: newman on January 21, 2008, 08:53:04 AM ---
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on January 21, 2008, 07:36:49 AM ---
--- Quote from: newman on January 21, 2008, 06:59:04 AM ---It occurs to me that since sex education in schools was introduced we have more bastard babies, rape and abortion than we had when people were (supposedly) ignorant of it.

Why not 'Social Responsibility' classes that teach black hos in the inner cities not to scatter bastard babies all over the ghetto?

--- End quote ---

Not necessarily true. 



--- End quote ---

Are you kidding?

Wanna compare statistics from 1957 to 2007?

--- End quote ---

Your claim that it is this way is because of sex education class...

My claim that it isn't necessarily because of sex education class...there is something else in the air that might have also caused a lot of teenage pregnancies.  I prefer to blame it on the moral decay and inability to use morality properly by our government and Hollywood's glorification of things like children out of wetlock.

--- End quote ---
I agree with you, Dr. Dan. I think some people get "Sex Education" mixed up with "How to Have Sex" education. This attitude is precisely the reason why so many parents refuse to talk to their children about sex; they're too afraid that the info they give would be like reading a "How To" manual. I've actually seen a lot of children grow up where whenever the word sex was said in the household, they would be beaten to a pulp because "sex" is supposed to be a bad word.

What creates young teen moms (black, white, yellow, pink or green) is the lack of information about safe sex, or abstainence.

--- End quote ---

Sex needs to be taught maturely by parents before the stupid liberal schools brainwash their children.

--- End quote ---
How can schools brainwash children with the truth? What do you think these classes teach children? And another thing... sex is so taboo, that parents these days regard the word as 'dirty'. What do you suggest when parents WON'T speak to their children about sex, because they're prudes? How else should they learn?

--- End quote ---

Because schools encourage their students to have abortions, unhealthy birth control pills, condoms, flavored condoms, pre-marital relations, sodomy, cunnilingus, fellatio, masturbation, and to view pornography. Is there room for marriage in their astute vocabularies?

Why do they need to learn? If the teaching of this holy act between a husband and wife is not for the sake of (in the case of Jews) Jewish law, or not for the sake of (in the case of both Jews and goyim) instilling the correct values, how to treat a woman not like a piece of meat that can be chewed or thrown away, how to conduct oneself in marriage, then for what grand purpose do they need to learn?

Take a look at the statistics of your own community and ask me again if you think public school sex education benefitted them.

--- End quote ---
First of all, that's not what sex ed teaches children in school. NONE of that. You think that people who teach sex ed are telling them HOW to have sex ...and you're wrong. I had sex ed in school and what they taught girls and boys were about the changes in their bodies. What? do you think that when kids become adolesants that they don't have sexual curiosities? Boys have unspeakable things happen to them when they are asked to stand up in class (during the puberty stage)...Most girls when they start their menses usually start in school while in class. These are things that happen in the human body.

What I learned in sex ed was not only what condoms do but why it was important to save myself. I (we) learned what STD's LOOK like (which turned off A LOT OF KIDS from THINKING about sex again until they were responsible enough to protect themselves. The boys learned that respecting women, and girls is important and that girls should never be pressured into sex. Girls learned to value themselves and their bodies.

I know that in your religion that a lot of things are frowned upon that would be tolerated outside of your religion. I understand that and respect that. However, in this instance, if parents don't say a word to their children about sex (because children as early as 5 years old are naturally curious) they will learn somewhere unfavorable; for instance, friends who don't know what they're talking about but can tell them how it felt.

We can't go throughout life telling our kids that they'll die if they have sex. That's not necessarily true. Sex is a beautiful when shared between two consenting adults in a monogomous relationship; and shouldn't be entered into lightly because feelings are involved: When you're too young to even name your feelings. It is best to save yourself for the one you're going to be with for the rest of your life. *But guess what? Most teenagers don't wait.*

I don't know where you got the idea that sex education had ANYTHING to do with teaching children about cunniligus, and such. That's just crazy! And as far as checking "my community", why don't we take a poll on every community where teenagers and their raging hormones reside. Premarital sex doesn't only happen in the black community. *And just because it happens a LOT in the black community, it doesn't mute the fact that children and young adults in other communities are doing the same thing.

If you want to stop children from having sex too early, talk to them as if they have half a brain...not like they're pod people.

--- End quote ---

Times have changed since your sex education, Erica. Everything I mentioned above was the extent of my public school sex education. You mention "between two consenting adults in a monogomous relationship"--why not 5 consenting adults in a married relationship? Everything is of course relative. How can we judge what people do in the comfort of their own homes?

Prevention of AIDS and all the other diseases that your community suffers from is abstinence. Teaching the value of birth control pills will not create abstinence.

--- End quote ---
How old are you? And another thing...what if teens decide NOT to wait, what will you tell them? What's important is that we give them the tools to make the right decisions. If they choose not to, we have to teach them other ways to communicate with their girlfriends or boyfriends. Sex isn't the end all to be all to life. I think some of you wish the teens of America could just go inside of a cocoon of some sort and come out more 'mature' and 'all-knowing' on the other side. It doesn't happen like that.

Dr. Dan:

--- Quote from: Just Erica on January 27, 2008, 09:16:46 PM ---
--- Quote from: There Are No 'Israeli' Arabs on January 27, 2008, 09:11:18 PM ---
--- Quote from: Just Erica on January 27, 2008, 02:26:08 AM ---
--- Quote from: There Are No 'Israeli' Arabs on January 27, 2008, 01:14:17 AM ---
--- Quote from: Just Erica on January 26, 2008, 09:06:19 PM ---
--- Quote from: There Are No 'Israeli' Arabs on January 25, 2008, 12:00:08 PM ---
--- Quote from: Just Erica on January 25, 2008, 03:31:41 AM ---
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on January 21, 2008, 12:20:21 PM ---
--- Quote from: newman on January 21, 2008, 08:53:04 AM ---
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on January 21, 2008, 07:36:49 AM ---
--- Quote from: newman on January 21, 2008, 06:59:04 AM ---It occurs to me that since sex education in schools was introduced we have more bastard babies, rape and abortion than we had when people were (supposedly) ignorant of it.

Why not 'Social Responsibility' classes that teach black hos in the inner cities not to scatter bastard babies all over the ghetto?

--- End quote ---

Not necessarily true. 



--- End quote ---

Are you kidding?

Wanna compare statistics from 1957 to 2007?

--- End quote ---

Your claim that it is this way is because of sex education class...

My claim that it isn't necessarily because of sex education class...there is something else in the air that might have also caused a lot of teenage pregnancies.  I prefer to blame it on the moral decay and inability to use morality properly by our government and Hollywood's glorification of things like children out of wetlock.

--- End quote ---
I agree with you, Dr. Dan. I think some people get "Sex Education" mixed up with "How to Have Sex" education. This attitude is precisely the reason why so many parents refuse to talk to their children about sex; they're too afraid that the info they give would be like reading a "How To" manual. I've actually seen a lot of children grow up where whenever the word sex was said in the household, they would be beaten to a pulp because "sex" is supposed to be a bad word.

What creates young teen moms (black, white, yellow, pink or green) is the lack of information about safe sex, or abstainence.

--- End quote ---

Sex needs to be taught maturely by parents before the stupid liberal schools brainwash their children.

--- End quote ---
How can schools brainwash children with the truth? What do you think these classes teach children? And another thing... sex is so taboo, that parents these days regard the word as 'dirty'. What do you suggest when parents WON'T speak to their children about sex, because they're prudes? How else should they learn?

--- End quote ---

Because schools encourage their students to have abortions, unhealthy birth control pills, condoms, flavored condoms, pre-marital relations, sodomy, cunnilingus, fellatio, masturbation, and to view pornography. Is there room for marriage in their astute vocabularies?

Why do they need to learn? If the teaching of this holy act between a husband and wife is not for the sake of (in the case of Jews) Jewish law, or not for the sake of (in the case of both Jews and goyim) instilling the correct values, how to treat a woman not like a piece of meat that can be chewed or thrown away, how to conduct oneself in marriage, then for what grand purpose do they need to learn?

Take a look at the statistics of your own community and ask me again if you think public school sex education benefitted them.

--- End quote ---
First of all, that's not what sex ed teaches children in school. NONE of that. You think that people who teach sex ed are telling them HOW to have sex ...and you're wrong. I had sex ed in school and what they taught girls and boys were about the changes in their bodies. What? do you think that when kids become adolesants that they don't have sexual curiosities? Boys have unspeakable things happen to them when they are asked to stand up in class (during the puberty stage)...Most girls when they start their menses usually start in school while in class. These are things that happen in the human body.

What I learned in sex ed was not only what condoms do but why it was important to save myself. I (we) learned what STD's LOOK like (which turned off A LOT OF KIDS from THINKING about sex again until they were responsible enough to protect themselves. The boys learned that respecting women, and girls is important and that girls should never be pressured into sex. Girls learned to value themselves and their bodies.

I know that in your religion that a lot of things are frowned upon that would be tolerated outside of your religion. I understand that and respect that. However, in this instance, if parents don't say a word to their children about sex (because children as early as 5 years old are naturally curious) they will learn somewhere unfavorable; for instance, friends who don't know what they're talking about but can tell them how it felt.

We can't go throughout life telling our kids that they'll die if they have sex. That's not necessarily true. Sex is a beautiful when shared between two consenting adults in a monogomous relationship; and shouldn't be entered into lightly because feelings are involved: When you're too young to even name your feelings. It is best to save yourself for the one you're going to be with for the rest of your life. *But guess what? Most teenagers don't wait.*

I don't know where you got the idea that sex education had ANYTHING to do with teaching children about cunniligus, and such. That's just crazy! And as far as checking "my community", why don't we take a poll on every community where teenagers and their raging hormones reside. Premarital sex doesn't only happen in the black community. *And just because it happens a LOT in the black community, it doesn't mute the fact that children and young adults in other communities are doing the same thing.

If you want to stop children from having sex too early, talk to them as if they have half a brain...not like they're pod people.

--- End quote ---

Times have changed since your sex education, Erica. Everything I mentioned above was the extent of my public school sex education. You mention "between two consenting adults in a monogomous relationship"--why not 5 consenting adults in a married relationship? Everything is of course relative. How can we judge what people do in the comfort of their own homes?

Prevention of AIDS and all the other diseases that your community suffers from is abstinence. Teaching the value of birth control pills will not create abstinence.

--- End quote ---
How old are you? And another thing...what if teens decide NOT to wait, what will you tell them? What's important is that we give them the tools to make the right decisions. If they choose not to, we have to teach them other ways to communicate with their girlfriends or boyfriends. Sex isn't the end all to be all to life. I think some of you wish the teens of America could just go inside of a cocoon of some sort and come out more 'mature' and 'all-knowing' on the other side. It doesn't happen like that.

--- End quote ---

maybe not in your community wear sex was the norm as a teenager..Heck, even having kids out of wetlock was the norm in your community...

It isn't in our's...so you can't compare apples and oranges...The culture of your community doesn't frown upon being single and having kids as much. In our's it is ridiculed when it happens to one of us. The school has a small responsibility to teach anatomy and biology.  It is the parent's and religious institution to teach morality.

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