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Re: The New Crusade
« Reply #25 on: January 06, 2008, 04:01:10 PM »
I agree with Serbian Cetnik,

The Austro Hungarian authorities started to terrorize the Serbs in Bosnia and Hercegoina and in Vojvodina.

Their empire was hungry for a new war and for territorial expansion.

They just needed an occasion to start the war.
They sent their prince Franjo Ferdinand to Serb areas knowing that somebody could probably attack him or assassinate him.
We killed their tsar. What do you expect from one big empire to do?
Serbia will never surrender Kosovo to the breakaway province's ethnic Albanian majority or trade its territory for European Union or NATO membership,

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Re: The New Crusade
« Reply #26 on: January 06, 2008, 04:27:41 PM »
We killed their tsar. What do you expect from one big empire to do?

How would the Austrians react if Aleksandar Karadjordjevic came to Austrian lands with an imperialistic attitude..  and organized his own military parades?

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Re: The New Crusade
« Reply #27 on: January 06, 2008, 04:44:42 PM »
so much hatred.............

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Re: The New Crusade
« Reply #28 on: January 06, 2008, 04:57:00 PM »
Ehm to clear something up


1. The crusaders in the crusades were all catholic
2. Byzantium, Was like yugoslavia, a union. Of Serbs, Greeks, Illyrians, Macedons etc. Serbs had no interest in anatolia/asia minor
3. Serbs have never started war except for once, vs Hungary. So you can rule out Serbian Orthodox soldiers massacring anyone but muslims.
4. Why do the new crusaders need to be under jewish control? how would that benefit?


OK bad idea. cancel it .

ok

Offline Serbian Cetnik (šumadinac)

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Re: The New Crusade
« Reply #29 on: January 06, 2008, 06:46:07 PM »
We killed their tsar. What do you expect from one big empire to do?

Tsar? you mean Kaizer. And he wasn't the Kaizer he was Prince.

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Re: The New Crusade
« Reply #30 on: January 06, 2008, 06:50:34 PM »
Wasn't the first world war a big row between the royal family.
Family, because they were all nephews of each-other.

I Think the WWI was a war about hegemony between Germany and England and France.
Turkey must get out of NATO. NATO must get out of Kosovo-Serbia. Croats must get out of Crajina. All muslims must get out of Christian and Jewish land. Turks must get out of Cyprus. Turks must get out of "Istanbul". "Palestinians" must get out of Israel. Israel must become independent from USA.

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Re: The New Crusade
« Reply #31 on: January 06, 2008, 06:56:18 PM »
just like every major war. the was tention and it proved more difficult not to have a war.

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« Reply #32 on: January 06, 2008, 07:01:39 PM »
just like every major war. the was tention and it proved more difficult not to have a war.

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Re: The New Crusade
« Reply #33 on: January 07, 2008, 01:04:42 PM »
so much hatred.............

That's what you get,
when you step on Serbs, man...

 8;)
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: The New Crusade
« Reply #34 on: January 07, 2008, 01:09:05 PM »
so much hatred.............

That's what you get,
when you step on Serbs, man...

 8;)

yup ;)

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Re: The New Crusade
« Reply #35 on: January 07, 2008, 08:53:00 PM »
Ehm to clear something up


1. The crusaders in the crusades were all catholic
2. Byzantium, Was like yugoslavia, a union. Of Serbs, Greeks, Illyrians, Macedons etc. Serbs had no interest in anatolia/asia minor
3. Serbs have never started war except for once, vs Hungary. So you can rule out Serbian Orthodox soldiers massacring anyone but muslims.
4. Why do the new crusaders need to be under jewish control? how would that benefit?


Yes, crusaders were all Catholic. I didn't say that Byzantium was guilty for the crusader's crime, I just quoted Byzantines to explain that many Samaritans had already been massacred by Bizantines in 5th century, whilst Crusaders arrived in tenth century.
And any strugglers against Arab invaders must be under Jewish control while they work in Israel. I didn't say that they must be controlled by Jews when defending other countries...

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Re: The New Crusade
« Reply #36 on: January 08, 2008, 12:56:07 AM »
Good that we cleared that up:P