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« on: January 06, 2008, 07:04:54 PM »
I found couple of days ago that Serbs that know of this Custom NEVER drink alone:/

You must be drinking with somebody. Never alone.:P
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Re: Serbian/Slavic Customs
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2008, 07:06:15 PM »
Quote from: Serbian Cetnik (šumadinac) on January 06, 2008, 07:04:54 PM
I found couple of days ago that Serbs that know of this Custom NEVER drink alone:/

You must be drinking with somebody. Never alone.:P

Interesting, didn't know that. ;) :)
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Re: Serbian/Slavic Customs
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2008, 07:46:54 PM »
Quote from: Serbian Cetnik (šumadinac) on January 06, 2008, 07:04:54 PM
I found couple of days ago that Serbs that know of this Custom NEVER drink alone:/

You must be drinking with somebody. Never alone.:P

Which custom are you writing about ?

 ???
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"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: Serbian/Slavic Customs
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2008, 08:50:59 PM »
the one where a Serb never drinks alone:P
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Re: Serbian/Slavic Customs
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2008, 08:53:01 PM »
Quote from: Serbian Cetnik (šumadinac) on January 06, 2008, 08:50:59 PM
the one where a Serb never drinks alone:P

ok. thanks ;)
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Re: Serbian/Slavic Customs
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2008, 10:18:36 PM »
Quote from: Serbian Cetnik (šumadinac) on January 06, 2008, 08:50:59 PM
the one where a Serb never drinks alone:P

OK, this was a joke...

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"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: Serbian/Slavic Customs
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2008, 10:36:19 PM »
no. its serious. Although its an old custom.
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Re: Serbian/Slavic Customs
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2008, 10:51:18 PM »
Well, how do you call it in Serbian ?

I know for "ПИТИ ПРЕКО РУКУ"
("peetee preko rookoo", meaning "Drinking through arms"),
which, effectively, you cannot do alone.

I'll try to find a picture of it.

JTFers will be surprized to see
it's an old Serbian Custom, when they see it.
Everybody has done that, in his/her Life-time,
not knowing it was an old Serbian Custom.

 ;)

Here's what Serbian "peetee preko rookoo" means:
http://www.viewimages.com/Search.aspx?mid=3248404&epmid=3&partner=Google
You have to click on this link,
since the website doesn't allow
the picture to be copy-pasted.

Yes, it's the first (one I want to show you, JTFers)
out of 23 pictures, under-titled:

"1963 - 01 Jan 1963
Albert Finney, Susannah York
(Photo by Hulton Archive/Getty Images)"

Here's another picture of this Serbian Custom:



 O0
« Last Edit: January 06, 2008, 11:04:27 PM by Husar »
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"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: Serbian/Slavic Customs
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2008, 11:40:22 PM »
Great pics O0
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Re: Serbian/Slavic Customs
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2008, 01:48:54 AM »
It doesn't have a name since its not an action, but behaviour.

I hope that made sense
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Re: Serbian/Slavic Customs
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2008, 01:53:18 AM »
Quote from: Serbian Cetnik (šumadinac) on January 07, 2008, 01:48:54 AM
It doesn't have a name since its not an action, but behaviour.

I hope that made sense

yes ok
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Re: Serbian/Slavic Customs
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2008, 02:30:50 AM »
Quote from: Serbian Cetnik (šumadinac) on January 07, 2008, 01:48:54 AM
It doesn't have a name since its not an action, but behaviour.

I hope that made sense

Well, it has nothing to do with the pics I posted...

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Could you just tell me how it is called in Serbian ?

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"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: Serbian/Slavic Customs
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2008, 02:39:09 AM »
I would like to know in Serbian Slavic language O0
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Re: Serbian/Slavic Customs
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2008, 08:24:30 PM »
You say as you say in any language " I don't drink alone" :P Its just Serbs do:P
It's not an action like piti preko ruku or the russian shot drinking. Its just that Serbs dont drink alone:P
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« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2008, 08:26:30 PM »
Quote from: Serbian Cetnik (šumadinac) on January 07, 2008, 08:24:30 PM
You say as you say in any language " I don't drink alone" :P Its just Serbs do:P
It's not an action like piti preko ruku or the russian shot drinking. Its just that Serbs dont drink alone:P

oh ok ;)
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Re: Serbian/Slavic Customs
« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2008, 08:27:22 PM »
Quote from: Husar on January 06, 2008, 10:51:18 PM
Well, how do you call it in Serbian ?

I know for "ПИТИ ПРЕКО РУКУ"
("peetee preko rookoo", meaning "Drinking through arms"),
which, effectively, you cannot do alone.

I'll try to find a picture of it.

JTFers will be surprized to see
it's an old Serbian Custom, when they see it.
Everybody has done that, in his/her Life-time,
not knowing it was an old Serbian Custom.

 ;)

Here's what Serbian "peetee preko rookoo" means:
http://www.viewimages.com/Search.aspx?mid=3248404&epmid=3&partner=Google
You have to click on this link,
since the website doesn't allow
the picture to be copy-pasted.

Yes, it's the first (one I want to show you, JTFers)
out of 23 pictures, under-titled:

"1963 - 01 Jan 1963
Albert Finney, Susannah York
(Photo by Hulton Archive/Getty Images)"

Here's another picture of this Serbian Custom:



 O0

Yes this is done at some wedding receptions ;)


« Last Edit: January 07, 2008, 08:34:41 PM by kellymaureen »
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Re: Serbian/Slavic Customs
« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2008, 08:29:24 PM »
Very nice O0
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