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Nolandforshalom:
has he been an Atheist his whole life?
Tzvi Ben Roshel1:
You dont have to even speak to him and convice him with your words, just tell him to go on www.Torahanytime.com - click on Rabbi Mizrahi's lectures and expecially the one titles "Divine Information" - if hes an honest person he will change from that hour onward.
Ambiorix:
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--- Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on January 09, 2008, 11:28:54 PM ---
--- Quote from: Ambiorix on January 09, 2008, 11:26:58 PM ---
--- Quote from: Nolandforshalom on January 09, 2008, 11:23:23 PM ---
--- Quote from: Ambiorix on January 09, 2008, 11:21:25 PM ---
--- Quote from: Nolandforshalom on January 09, 2008, 11:10:10 PM ---Possibly, but with G-d on our side do we really need any more help? It says in Genesis that there will always be Jews, so we will never loose.
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Nolandforshalom; do you consider atheist left-wing Jews as enemies of Israel,
or do you consider these as non-Jewish enemies?
Thanks,
Ambiorix.
BTW : it is good you don't thrust anybody except your own people.
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If they are born of a Jewish Mother, than they are Jewish, regardless of what they believe. It is our job to bring them back to the Torah. They are enemies only if they try to harm us, e.x. Shalom Achshav. Regardless, we are to try to bring them to Torah.
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What with Jews that are atheists?
I have a Jewish friend here in Belgium who is atheist, who doesn't eat kosher, but who does support Israel 100%.
Should I as a non-Jew tell him he must come back to the Jewish faith ?
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You are not obligated, but you can.
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Than I will.
He is a man of 72 years old.
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i think it will make him happy to know I am in contact with people like you.
But frankly, I have no idea what to tell him, other than " it's not good you belief in atheism"
Any suggestions?
He beliefs Torah can be misused, in a same way Christian Church misused the Bible , to terrorise the people.
Nolandforshalom:
The Torah cannot be misused, as it is ultimate truth both at face value and in interpretation.
Tzvi Ben Roshel1:
--- Quote from: Ambiorix on January 09, 2008, 11:33:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: Ambiorix on January 09, 2008, 11:30:20 PM ---
--- Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on January 09, 2008, 11:28:54 PM ---
--- Quote from: Ambiorix on January 09, 2008, 11:26:58 PM ---
--- Quote from: Nolandforshalom on January 09, 2008, 11:23:23 PM ---
--- Quote from: Ambiorix on January 09, 2008, 11:21:25 PM ---
--- Quote from: Nolandforshalom on January 09, 2008, 11:10:10 PM ---Possibly, but with G-d on our side do we really need any more help? It says in Genesis that there will always be Jews, so we will never loose.
--- End quote ---
Nolandforshalom; do you consider atheist left-wing Jews as enemies of Israel,
or do you consider these as non-Jewish enemies?
Thanks,
Ambiorix.
BTW : it is good you don't thrust anybody except your own people.
--- End quote ---
If they are born of a Jewish Mother, than they are Jewish, regardless of what they believe. It is our job to bring them back to the Torah. They are enemies only if they try to harm us, e.x. Shalom Achshav. Regardless, we are to try to bring them to Torah.
--- End quote ---
What with Jews that are atheists?
I have a Jewish friend here in Belgium who is atheist, who doesn't eat kosher, but who does support Israel 100%.
Should I as a non-Jew tell him he must come back to the Jewish faith ?
--- End quote ---
You are not obligated, but you can.
--- End quote ---
Than I will.
He is a man of 72 years old.
--- End quote ---
i think it will make him happy to know I am in contact with people like you.
But frankly, I have no idea what to tell him, other than " it's not good you belief in atheism"
Any suggestions?
He beliefs Torah can be misused, in a same way Christian Church misused the Bible , to terrorise the people.
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Just tell him the link and video I sent before. Tell him to dedicate 72 minutes of his life to the Truth (or even dont say that, just say to watch a video of a Rabbi claiming that Judasim can only be Divine with any questions and the proffs presented. If he takes it good, if not then thats his missed opportunity.
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