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ultra-Orthodox Jews against Isarel. What does Chaim say?
judeanoncapta:
'Nuff said.
judeanoncapta:
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--- Quote from: jdl4ever on January 09, 2008, 09:00:39 PM ---My great grandparent's Rabbi was the previous Satmur Rebbe 2 Rebbe's back and they took his advice by staying in Hungary and were killed in some concentration camp. I don't need to read the guy's Sefarim.
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Why do you have a Satmar Rav?
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He doesn't.
His great-grandparents did.
jdl4ever:
Actually the Rabbi of my Synagague for 20 years is Satmur but he doesn't admit to it if you ask him, he prefers to be left unclassified and he sends his kids to a Vishnitz Yeshiva. I asked him about R' Kahane and the Rabbi responded by saying that if R' Kahane would have been successful in Israel, it would have been a much better place so he isn't a true Satmur. He also speaks positively about Israel and doesn't like the fight between the two Satmur Rabbis going on and implied they are not acting like real Rabbis so he's probably a self hating Satmur. He's still a bit crazy and says some crazy things and his speeches don't make sense most of the time. I go to the Synagague since it is the closest Askenazi one to my house. I only follow the Rabbi on simple Halacha and learn with him but ignore the guy when he says crazy things. When I get married in the future I'm moving and finding a better Rabbi. Basically he's the Rabbi of the Synagague I go to but I don't follow him except for simple Halacha.
There tend to be two types of Chassidim, those that adhere to their Rabbi very strongly and reject any other sect's Rabbis and their opinions. Then there are some who happen to belong to a certain sect but love Chassidism in general and study other Chassidic Rabbi's works as well as their own Rabbi and try to follow Chassidism in general by taking into account the different opinions of the other sects and following some beliefs that other sects follow but their sect doesn't if they like the other sect's opinion on that area and believe this achieves a greater understanding of Chassidism than following only one set of opinions.
Tzvi Ben Roshel1:
--- Quote from: judeanoncapta on January 09, 2008, 09:54:09 PM ---The last line is."The Hasmoneans overpowered the greeks and saved Israel and the Kingship was restored to Israel for over two hundred years."
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That doesn't prove anything. + the Hoshmonaim were fighting to have Judasim against the greeks and the HELLINISTS who were fighting agains't the Torah.
jdl4ever:
It proves plenty. The Rambam is saying that having a wicked Kingdom of Israel is better than having no state and being subjugated by foreigners such as the Greek-Syrians.
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