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dhimmi_pride:
"There's no smoke without fire"~ Mark Collett

Well lets see:

Hatred of Jews has always been the backbone of nazi ideas. The BNP is no different. But antisemitism is not a vote winner. It reminds people of Hitler and the Holocaust. The BNP wishes to distance itself from the images of swastikas and concentration camps. Despite this, they still believesthat there is a Jewish conspiracy to dominate the world.

*In Nick Griffin’s pamphlet Who are the Mindbenders Jewish names are listed as proof that they control the media.

*Mindbenders claims that, “The mass media in Britain today have managed to implant into many people’s minds the idea that it is ‘anti-Semitic’ even to acknowledge that members of the Jewish community play a large part in controlling our news”.

*Jews are accused of “providing us with an endless diet of pro-multiracial, pro-homosexual, anti-British trash”.

Who are the Mindbenders? has a sinister history:

*It follows the lead of The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, the notorious 19th century tsarist forgery that purports to be the minutes of a meeting of Jews documenting their plans to control the whole world.

*Mindbenders is based on Who Rules America?, written by Dr William Pierce, who before his death last year was one of  the world’s foremost neo-nazis and a self confessed ally of Nick Griffin.

*Pierce authored the notorious Turner Diaries, which inspired the Oklahoma bombing, and was the leader of the National Alliance, a group described by the US Anti-Defamation League as one of the most dangerous neo-nazi groups in the world. Griffin’s booklet is a carbon copy of Pierce’s.

In Spearhead in 1996, Griffin spoke of “the controllers of Hollywood, almost entirely Jewish”, and has written that: “Some ‘anti-Semitism’ may be provoked by the actions of certain Jews themselves and thereby have a rational basis”. Now he is trying to distance himself from the label of antisemitism, and has toned down his views in public. Where he once spoke of “Jewish influence”, he now speaks of “Zionist influence”, showing that it is his language not his beliefs that have changed.
Holocaust Denial

*Griffin has never withdrawn his views on the Holocaust that landed him with a suspended prison sentence in 1998. His publication The Rune, which denied that the Holocaust ever took place, resulted in a conviction for inciting racial hatred under the Public Order Act. So extreme were Griffin’s beliefs that he attacked David Irving, the leading British Holocaust denier, for daring to admit that some people might have died in the Holocaust, Griffin wrote: “True revisionists will not be fooled by this new twist to the sorry tale of the Hoax of the Twentieth Century”.

*Defaming the memory of British forces who fought the Nazis, he added, “Back in the 1960s the Jews quietly shifted the alleged sites of the mass gassings from the no longer believable German camps such as Dachau and Belsen to the sites in Communist Poland such as Auschwitz and Treblinka. Now that the very idea of Zyklon-B extermination has been exposed as unscientific nonsense, they are once and again re-writing bogus history, playing down gas chambers and talking instead of ‘hundreds of hitherto unknown sites in the East where more than a million Jews were exterminated by shooting”.

*Griffin sees the Holocaust as a lie invented by Jews to make money: “As your Hollywood friend is fond of remarking, (provided he is safely in select company) ‘there’s no business like Shoah business”.

*When the former MP Alex Carlisle reported Griffin for inciting racial hatred and Holocaust denial, Griffin fumed: “This bloody Jew, our local MP who organised the raid whose only claim to fame is that two of his parents died in the Holocaust”

*Star witness as Harrow Crown Court on Griffin’s behalf was Robert Faurisson, the famous French Holocaust denier.

In the 1990s the BNP hosted a number of revisionism seminars that were addressed by some of the world’s most infamous Holocaust deniers. They included David Irving.

 *National Alliance, the foremost nazi group in the United States. NA speakers regularly address BNP meeting in the US and, in 1995, it founder and leader, William Pierce, spoke at the BNP annual rally in London. When Pierce died in the summer of 2002, the BNP posted an obituary on its website. Pierce was the author of The Turner Diaries, the fictional account of a Race War. The book proved to be an inspiration for the Oklahoma City bomber, Timothy McVeigh, and the London nailbomber David Copeland.

* David Duke, a former Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux, is very close to Nick Griffin and the BNP. Griffin has regularly shared platforms with Duke and the American’s antisemitic and Holocaust denial material is sold through the BNP. Duke is currently living in Russia in a bid to avoid the US taxman.

*National Democratic Party, Germany’s leading nazi group. NPD leaders deny the Holocaust took place and revere Adolf Hitler. The NPD shares many of its activists with the outlawed Blood and Honour skinhead movement. Griffin addressed a NPD rally in August 2002. NPD activists have attended BNP events in Britain.

*Front National, the French fascist group led by Jean-Marie Le Pen. Le Pen was convicted for dismissing the Holocaust as a “mere detail” of the Second World War and for violence. BNP supporters are regular attendees at the FN’s annual summer festival and Griffin has publicly stated his admiration for the group. A member of the FN leadership addressed the 2002 BNP Red, White and Blue festival.

*Holocaust deniers. The BNP, and especially Nick Griffin, are close to many of the world’s leading Holocaust deniers. Robert Faurisson, one of the foremost Holocaust deniers, was a star witness at Griffin’s trial for racial hatred in 1998. The German Gunter Deckert, who has been to prison for denying the Holocaust, spoke at a London BNP meeting in 2001. Even the British Holocaust denier and antisemite, David Irving, has addressed BNP meetings.

*American Renaissance. A far right US based publication that supports the notion of the biological superiority of white people. Each edition is packed with the theories of race-science, and grim statistics showing the moral degeneracy of black people. Griffin spoke at their annual conference in February 2002 on “Racial friction in Britain and Europe”.

*Blood and Honour. Blood and Honour is the openly nazi skinhead organisation in Britain. Many of its leaders are BNP members and Blood and Honour nazi bands have raised money for the BNP.

The attempts by the BNP to portray a more moderate image are often dropped when addressing events abroad. Speaking to a private nazi meeting in the US in 2001, Nick Griffin admitted that the party’s new-found respectability was simply a tactic to con the British people. “My politics have not changed,” he told the audience of racists and nazis. “I still believe in fighting for this,” he added, pointing to his white skin.

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--- Quote from: dhimmi_pride on February 07, 2008, 05:04:53 PM ---<snip>
The attempts by the BNP to portray a more moderate image are often dropped when addressing events abroad. Speaking to a private nazi meeting in the US in 2001, Nick Griffin admitted that the party’s new-found respectability was simply a tactic to con the British people. “My politics have not changed,” he told the audience of racists and nazis. “I still believe in fighting for this,” he added, pointing to his white skin.



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wow, that is extreme!

but if you just go by what we know he has said (hearing or reading him in his own words).. e.g. from his website, or from any videos online

and seeing videos of the previous head John Tyndall (related to Tyndale of bible fame) , who he actually expelled from the party.  Tyndall had lots of nazi links.

So just going by what we can see..   It may be that Nick Griffin has changed completely, though that is unlikely, and naiive.   Or it may be that he is simply hiding his anti-semitism because it hurts his chances of gaining popularity.  And at the moment he sees muslims as the number one threat. And given how powerful jewish organisations are, he would rather they were on his side. Or at least, not against him.

Either way, his party is full of anti-semites.. Given the fact that Nick Griffin was so openly anti-semitic as recently as 10 years ago. And that the former head of the BNP - John Tyndall, had nazi links e.g.he was  leader of the national front!!.  So even if nick griffin has dropped that image and is trying to drop that image.. He is leading a party full of neo nazis


You also make an important point, that they are National Socialists..
this is clear from wikipedia

And it makes sense.. Why much of their supports comes from poor council estate thugs. They are extreme left. Socialism. With the racism of extreme right.   That`s national socialism.

Tyndall paired with the "white defence league" and set up the National Socialist movement. According to wikipedia.

Fine.. Tyndall was expelled by Griffin. But he was the former head, and no doubt many supports identify with Tyndall.

dibblah:
Dhimmi and others,

I must say that I've read some utter twaddle on this BNP subject from people who should know better, or actually do, but choose to be head-in-sand whallas...-Please behave...You cannot get away with that here!

I understand your concerns but they are incorrect, unfounded and simply not true. All I have said to you that the BNP actively encourages Jewish membership, has democratically elected Jewish representitives, and supports Israel is FACT. It is true, ...it cannot be denied my friend. In the past, (as previously explained and at great legnth) ther have been complete assh*les who have been associated with the BNP with an axe to grind about everyone. This is no longer the case and all support and membership that has been associated with these people has been expelled from the party.

As a previous post has said, there is no other party that supports the Jewish people and Israel in the UK other than the BNP. -Know who you're friends are and do not denigrate genuine support.

So before you start calling other forum members liars -(namely me)... do your research and dont be in De-Nile...its a polluted river in Egypt...

dhimmi_pride:

--- Quote from: dibblah on February 10, 2008, 12:21:44 AM --- In the past, (as previously explained and at great legnth) ther have been complete assh*les who have been associated with the BNP with an axe to grind about everyone. This is no longer the case and all support and membership that has been associated with these people has been expelled from the party.

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Those "complete a$$holes" founded the BNP and continue to lead it to this day. Nick Griffin's expulsion is news to me. Or is he not a holocaust denying/jew hating/ayatollah praising a$$hole that thinks the Jews secretly control the modern Britain that he so despises??? Can you name me anything the BNP has actually DONE, aside from writing something on a website to support Israel? Having a few Jews that are foolish enough to join with you neo-Nazi's does not make you pro-Jewish. And everyone in Britain knows what party every nazi saluting football hooligan supports...the BNP! Why is that???

Neither are you BNP supporters true right wingers. You are class warriors, nothing more than a racist and anti-semetic verison of Labour, that just don't want to share your dole and nanny state with non-whites.

Ambiorix:
What party in the U.K. does support JTF-policies?

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