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Warm greetings to the JTF from a UK supporter

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dibblah:
You  are drasctically wrong my friend...If you read the BNP manifesto we are committed to preserving the "Judaic/Christian tradition of our peoples of the British Isles." -The labour/liberal/conservative conspiracy of the self serving nose-in-the-trough traitors has been exposed...for signing us over to a European Superstate (That wants to include Turkey) and to all the 5 million + Muslims who have settled here -(MOSTLY ILLEGALLY). Now the Anglican Archbishop is proposing Sharia Law!- My God- how far have we gone and where will it end?

IF the BNP were in power the majority of these muslims/illegal immigrants and asylum seekers would be re-patriated, to their own countries as is right in international Law.- We demand this and no Sharia law and no self serving politicians. Fianaly, every Jew could rest easy knowing that they live in a country that outside Israel is their second home.- This has for a long time been the case and we died in our 100's of thousands to fight for freedom against the Nazis.- I dont think that anything the Jews and Israel are being gaurrunted today comes anywhere close to the BNP commitment to the Jews and Christians.- Make no mistake..this is not a Blair/Labour doublespeak..this is action.....Choose your side the war has already begun and we are on the front line again.

Ambiorix:

--- Quote from: q_q_ on February 11, 2008, 09:02:14 AM ---
--- Quote from: Skippy on February 11, 2008, 05:10:13 AM ---
--- Quote from: dhimmi_pride ---Neither are you BNP supporters true right wingers. You are class warriors, nothing more than a racist and anti-semetic verison of Labour, that just don't want to share your dole and nanny state with non-whites.
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<laughs>

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That was an ingenious observation from dhimmi_pride. (and amusing too)

And regarding what dibblah said about BNP being pro israel. If even you mean pro israel like the Blair labour party - and I doubt it.  No party in britain is pro israel.  Some parties may be pro israeli government, but that is something else, and actually, that is bad! To be pro israel means saying israel should not give up any land, speaking out against the disengagement where the israeli government trampled over religious jewish settlers with horses and beat them with batons. No british political party does that. Anyhow, I do not expect them to, their goals should be for britain.

And their goal for britain is just what dhimmi_pride said!
 
Except they break up Britain into English, and non english. Not white and non white.
Jews are not considered English (even today british asians , blacks, jews, e.t.c. are not considered English by anybody). I do not know the details of the differences in how the English and non english would be treated, but that is the idea.

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1:
historical immigration:

I consider the Ashkenazim and Sephardi Jews as autochtone Europeans. As I do regard Gypsies as European people.
If you live for 20 generations here, that makes you a European.
No Racism here.
Jews are free to live here, and keep their identity.

However, Jews should consider themselves as Jews first.
I don't have to tell what Jews must or mustn't do or think, but, JTF itself states Jews cannot intermarry, or convert to other faiths,
and still call themselves Jews.

Zionism is the movement, that organised Jews to go back to the Holy Land.
That I support 100%.
The best way to be a strong, proud (instead of self-hating)  Nation,
is to have a country where you are the majority, and were minorities have no power (now, or anywhere in the future) to rule over you.

2:
recent mass-immigration in Europe: (unprecedented the last 2000 years!!!)

Non-Europeans such as Turks, Middle Eastern people, North-Africans, Black Africans, Asian, Chinese, Japanese, South-American,...
people, are welcome here,

under the condition that:

- they cannot become a majority, and thus outnumbering, and take over our continent.
So their number is already dangerously high-> no need for extra immigrants, but for sending back as much as we can:
illegals, and criminals, welfare-parasites, dangerous terrorists, such as muslims...

-> need for a higher European (white) birthrate.

-> need for a political change, more support for Israel, and less socialist policies.

Nationalist parties, should be encouraged, helped to grow,
to defend our national identities, interests,
to combat communist policies (mass-immigration, feminism, homosexuality, atheism, liberalism, anti-Judaism, anti-Christiannity)

To ensure, we , the Western Civilisation can remain the civilisation it is, and the third world doesn't destroy us.

There is a growing number of right-wing, anti-immigrationalists that understand Israel and Europe share the same needs for securing its future and its existence.

q_q_:

--- Quote from: dibblah on January 10, 2008, 12:34:57 AM ---In the 70's and 80's there were extreme elements that tried to hijack the party. These wre Nazi thugs and scum. This is why the media today feels they have a axe to grind against us. This sick ideology couldn't be further from the truth of who we are and what we stand for.

I am not going to deny it;- Some of these fringe people and their views were anti-semitic. All of these people- (like 20 years ago) have been expelled from the party. I can tell you now as a BNP activist that if any of these sentiments were even simmering below the surface, I would run a mile from the Party and denounce them at every occassion. The British are a North Atlantic people with a Christian Judaic tradition and I will be prepared to die defending that. The same as my father and grand father did before me.

I think you have to look at this attempt by the Nazis at this time as symptomatic of the extremes that were pushing for recognition. Any Right wing party at the time was subject to hijack by any extreme right wing movement going. As the new media age has progressed this confusion and anti-message clap-trap can be flicked out as soon as it rears its ugly head.

Read the web-site and decide for youself. We are actually (even in this cynical world) 100% genuine. Take it or leave it.

--- End quote ---

Here is a speech John Tyndall (the former head, since expelled by current head)
gave in 2004 (According to the youtube title)



He quotes a woman that said we need Hitler.. 

The audience applauded.

Why applause? why wasn`t he booed?
This is really a semi serious comment by Tyndall, considering his founding of the national front. Association with some white power organisation (wikipedia has more)..

In 1998 he criticises Michael Howard - not for his policies - which as a Conservative politician are not too different to Labour.  But he criticised him for not being English
You see the audience in that video, he got huge applause. Sure, was a great speaker.

And he made some good points, which stress the foundation of the BNP, without which, they fight for nothing.  No intermarriage with other races. Preservation of the english/white race. Because you cannot preserve english culture and way of life if you live with somebody with foreign values. He said it better.. And he has a point. And I don`t want jews intermarrying either.  But  unfortunately, I can see him being unsympathetic(understatement) to problems facing jews in britain, relative to problems facing people he cares about.

In france, when there were riots some years ago, and masses of jewish immigration, and fear of Le Penne getting in.  I was in favour of the french voting Le Penne (if he truly was a racist right winger), as long as all the jews of france were leaving france. Vote le penne, but then leave!!  Britain has not reached that stage where all jews have fled for their lives, and neither has France, thank G-d.


q_q_:

--- Quote from: dibblah on January 10, 2008, 12:34:57 AM ---In the 70's and 80's there were extreme elements that tried to hijack the party. These wre Nazi thugs and scum. This is why the media today feels they have a axe to grind against us. This sick ideology couldn't be further from the truth of who we are and what we stand for.

I am not going to deny it;- Some of these fringe people and their views were anti-semitic. All of these people- (like 20 years ago) have been expelled from the party. I can tell you now as a BNP activist that if any of these sentiments were even simmering below the surface, I would run a mile from the Party and denounce them at every occassion. The British are a North Atlantic people with a Christian Judaic tradition and I will be prepared to die defending that. The same as my father and grand father did before me.

I think you have to look at this attempt by the Nazis at this time as symptomatic of the extremes that were pushing for recognition. Any Right wing party at the time was subject to hijack by any extreme right wing movement going. As the new media age has progressed this confusion and anti-message clap-trap can be flicked out as soon as it rears its ugly head.

Read the web-site and decide for youself. We are actually (even in this cynical world) 100% genuine. Take it or leave it.

--- End quote ---

Ambiorix:

--- Quote from: q_q_ on February 13, 2008, 06:20:02 AM ---
--- Quote from: dibblah on January 10, 2008, 12:34:57 AM ---In the 70's and 80's there were extreme elements that tried to hijack the party. These wre Nazi thugs and scum. This is why the media today feels they have a axe to grind against us. This sick ideology couldn't be further from the truth of who we are and what we stand for.

I am not going to deny it;- Some of these fringe people and their views were anti-semitic. All of these people- (like 20 years ago) have been expelled from the party. I can tell you now as a BNP activist that if any of these sentiments were even simmering below the surface, I would run a mile from the Party and denounce them at every occassion. The British are a North Atlantic people with a Christian Judaic tradition and I will be prepared to die defending that. The same as my father and grand father did before me.

I think you have to look at this attempt by the Nazis at this time as symptomatic of the extremes that were pushing for recognition. Any Right wing party at the time was subject to hijack by any extreme right wing movement going. As the new media age has progressed this confusion and anti-message clap-trap can be flicked out as soon as it rears its ugly head.

Read the web-site and decide for youself. We are actually (even in this cynical world) 100% genuine. Take it or leave it.

--- End quote ---

Here is a speech John Tyndall (the former head, since expelled by current head)
gave in 2004 (According to the youtube title)



He quotes a woman that said we need Hitler.. 

The audience applauded.

Why applause? why wasn`t he booed?
This is really a semi serious comment by Tyndall, considering his founding of the national front. Association with some white power organisation (wikipedia has more)..

In 1998 he criticises Michael Howard - not for his policies - which as a Conservative politician are not too different to Labour.  But he criticised him for not being English
You see the audience in that video, he got huge applause. Sure, was a great speaker.

And he made some good points, which stress the foundation of the BNP, without which, they fight for nothing.  No intermarriage with other races. Preservation of the english/white race. Because you cannot preserve english culture and way of life if you live with somebody with foreign values. He said it better.. And he has a point. And I don`t want jews intermarrying either.  But  unfortunately, I can see him being unsympathetic(understatement) to problems facing jews in britain, relative to problems facing people he cares about.

In france, when there were riots some years ago, and masses of jewish immigration, and fear of Le Penne getting in.  I was in favour of the french voting Le Penne (if he truly was a racist right winger), as long as all the jews of france were leaving france. Vote le penne, but then leave!!  Britain has not reached that stage where all jews have fled for their lives, and neither has France, thank G-d.


--- End quote ---

Jean-Marie Le Pen will be dead in a few years from now.
Then, hopefully, pro-Israel right-wing will become dominant.
Europe has become dangerous for Jews, the muslims are attacking graveyards, Synagogues, Jews in the streets,
even killing , torturing a Jew a couple of years ago.
Same thing in Antwerp, Belgium.

Anti-semitism is not over.

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