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Intermarriage Banning Poll + Lecture
Tzvi Ben Roshel1:
--- Quote from: MackaB on January 21, 2008, 04:29:45 PM ---whatever Tzvi.
do you also think jacking off is worse than murder?
Tell me Tzvi...In your estimation, do you think having relations with a goya is worse than homosexuality?
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I dont know for both. I didn't hear an answer for either questions.
Maccabi:
If someone says the worst thing you can do is be with a goya then that implies that it is worse than homosexuality. In his lecture, I believe he says that it (relations with gentile) is worse than anything. See if you can find it in the first five minutes of the video.
Awaiting your response.
Tzvi Ben Roshel1:
--- Quote from: MackaB on January 21, 2008, 05:15:30 PM ---If someone says the worst thing you can do is be with a goya then that implies that it is worse than homosexuality. In his lecture, I believe he says that it (relations with gentile) is worse than anything. See if you can find it in the first five minutes of the video.
Awaiting your response.
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If he said that, then you got your answer, why do you need to ask me, if you got your answer.
Dr. Dan:
--- Quote from: MackaB on January 21, 2008, 05:15:30 PM ---If someone says the worst thing you can do is be with a goya then that implies that it is worse than homosexuality. In his lecture, I believe he says that it (relations with gentile) is worse than anything. See if you can find it in the first five minutes of the video.
Awaiting your response.
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well, the rabbi is implying that nobody practices homosexuality.
Maccabi:
I am not 100% sure he said this (or maybe I didn't hear it right or I misunderstood) and I want you to confirm.
It's part of the logic process.
Is it not a valid question?
I'm making an argument here to defend Jewish men because I think they should be allowed to have Goyas if the women convert at the time of marriage. Especially since we've been in Galut 2,000 years and circumstances are extenuating.
I'm in favor of extreme leniency on this particular issue.
I want to know, if this lecturer that you are using for your argument thinks that it would be preferable, or less of a sin for a Jewish man to do a homosexual act, than to hook up with a goya according to his understanding of Torah.
Look, I know that it may be a disgusting question...But I think it is a valid and perfectly important question and if it can't be answered straightforwardly, then I will disregard your arguments on the topic.
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