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Ulli:

--- Quote from: jdl4ever on January 29, 2008, 06:50:01 PM ---I like your plants.  ;D  I didn't think you could grow tobacco like that.  I also grew tomatoes indoors but I found that they didn't transplant well outside since they suffered from climate shock due to the difference in climate and died outdoors; same thing happened with cucumbers so I buy the seedlings of tomatoes to plant outdoors since it is less trouble and I grow the cucumbers in pots outdoors and transplant them when they are big enough.  The problem with the mercury lamp is that it is too expensive, it consumes too much energy.  Flourescent lamps are the best to use as a 26 watt lamp produces as much light as a 100 watt incadescent bulb.  I actually used only a 15 watt flourescent in the fish tank and that's how I grew the seedlings.  Now I transplanted them to bigger pots with a 26 watt on the ceiling.  Believe it or not, I had the best results this year since I never turned the light off but left it on 24 hours a day.  The plants grew twice as fast.  So I feel no need to turn the light off unless I want to stunt the plants growth when they get too big. 

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Oh, you are really lucky. I have used a time-clock to regulate light and darkness. I have never tried 24 hours of light, because all books I read about this issue tells not to do it.

But, perhaps trying is the best way.  :)

Perhaps I make in the near future a experiment with 24 hour light. I am very curious about the results.

This year I will be very carefull with my tabacco culture. I will grow them inside in big pots (I will have nearly 200 plants) until they are great enough to resist the evil slugs. I think about digging glasses into the earth after planted the tabacco outside and fill them with beer. The slugs will drink from it and fall drunk into the glasses  8)

I smoke sometimes some tabacco (really not a lot), but the gouvernment takes high taxes.

Perhaps I will succeed this year.  :)

I have a mercury lamp with the electronic. It is very bright. I can't look into it without seeing nothing for the next minutes. 18 hours a day a 400 Watt is really expensive, you are right.

Ulli:
This was my tabacco culture before the evil slugs ate it:

jdl4ever:
Those are some nice looking Tobacco plants.  I've had the same problem with slugs.  I tried the beer idea but it didn't work and not one slug fell for the beer.  The only thing that kept some of them out was wrapping the tiny plant in plastic with a few small holes in it and burying the plastic in the ground.  The problem is that you are successful in keeping the adult slugs out but the tiny baby slugs can still get in and eat the plant so it might or may not work depending on how lucky you are.  For me they lived until I took the plastic off and the slugs ate the plants again.  Then I stumbled across a better idea that seemed to work.  I call it the "sacrificing idea".  Plant a couple of cabbage full grown plants or lettuce plants around the borders of your tobacco farm.  The slugs will eat the cabbage plants and lettuce plants instead of the Tobacco (or eat only a little of the tobacco) since it is much easier for them to eat the softer lettuce or cabbage I think.  It worked for me with cucumbers, haven't tried it with Tobacco so no guarantee.  I also found that the sacrificing idea also worked when I didn't weed the garden and the slugs ate an equal proportion of soft weeds as they ate the seedlings allowing most of them to live.  When the seedlings are the only thing in the garden, guess what the slugs are going to eat?   The only fail proof way to get rid of them is to find the places where they are hiding and kill them or go out at night and kill them yourself since they come out at night but I'm too lazy to chase slugs at night. 

Ulli:

--- Quote from: jdl4ever on January 29, 2008, 07:31:58 PM ---Those are some nice looking Tobacco plants.  I've had the same problem with slugs.  I tried the beer idea but it didn't work and not one slug fell for the beer.  The only thing that kept some of them out was wrapping the tiny plant in plastic with a few small holes in it and burying the plastic in the ground.  The problem is that you are successful in keeping the adult slugs out but the tiny baby slugs can still get in and eat the plant so it might or may not work depending on how lucky you are.  For me they lived until I took the plastic off and the slugs ate the plants again.  Then I stumbled across a better idea that seemed to work.  I call it the "sacrificing idea".  Plant a couple of cabbage full grown plants or lettuce plants around the borders of your tobacco farm.  The slugs will eat the cabbage plants and lettuce plants instead of the Tobacco (or eat only a little of the tobacco) since it is much easier for them to eat the softer lettuce or cabbage I think.  It worked for me with cucumbers, haven't tried it with Tobacco so no guarantee.  The only fail proof way to get rid of them is to find the places where they are hiding and kill them or go out at night and kill them yourself since they come out at night but I'm too lazy to chase slugs at night. 

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I will try it with planting lettuce around the tabacco. If I prepare the garden in the next weeks, I will  dig up a greater part of the grass for it.  I do not want to use poison, because I am afraid of the poison will find a way into the plants.

You are right, in daylight I have never seen a slug. They do their evil work by night. >:(

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