Placing a high value on personal freedom is not 'liberalism' only. Conservatives do this too.
What separates eastern and western culture is not clothing, pop music or household appliances. It is a mindset. Eg: Chinese will happily trade-off personal freedom and free-speach for prosperity. Westerners NEVER will contemplate such a thing.
Westerners will place the elderly in nursing homes so they won't be burdoned with them. That idea is repugnant to asians.
In an asian household, the father is an undisputed ruler who is rarely questioned and NEVER argued with. In western households decisions are made more collectively.
To simply lable a culture eastern or western on shallow, surface appearances is foolish. It is the deeper core values that determine culture.
I live in the asia/pacific region. I've met and worked with more chinese than you'll ever meet in your life. My great great grandfather was a full blood chinaman. My grandfather (quarter cast chinese) spoke fluent cantonese and spent his career travelling throughout South Asia on business. Now YOU'RE telling ME about chinese culture!
Placing a high value on personal freedom is liberalism only, it called Right-wing liberlism, "Pure Liberalism" and, more commonly, Right-libertarianism, which is very simmilar to the Conservative parties idea.
When we were talking about weastern states in Asia, and Chinese (and Japanese) are weastern, I was talking about the non-poor Chinese and Japanese and Asians in general who hold weastern thinking or mindset. Those are the people who made China, Japan, Singapore, Taiwan and other states to what they are today: strong, rich and advenced states. The poor Chinese who live in what called today Second China, means, "China" that the profits of the 1990' Chinese free market reforms passed over tham, are still holding in Confucius' Philosophy that says that the indevidual is not in a conflict with the collective intereses so the indevidual have restrain himself to get into a harmony with the collective.
BTW, do you have diagonal eyes or any other Asian physical features ?
That's just an "ist" or "ism" label. iSSlam was always oppressive and cruel.
Every culture befor the 18th century was, the thing is they stucked there! But reletively the Muslims
were better than the Christians.
If it moves neither forward nor backward, it's arrested or stagnated.
The problem is that no culture ever stalled unless it was in a lone Island and never got out of the tribial culture. Do you have any historical exemple that show that non-tribial culture stalled. The Chinese were in moving backward procces and without the west they would have been turning into Africa. Because of the wars inside China and the political explosive that there is, was and there will be in China, wars will always happen, and without the west and the Chinese communist all the Chinese culture would have destroyed.
***long qoute about the scientists***.
It is not the point, it's irrelevent if the Islamic scientists were very religiouse or less religiouse. The Islamic first dynesty was Muslim only in formal terms, and the Bedouins' question of being "real" Muslims is still debated in Islam. The thing here is that Islamic civillazation was the one that developed those scientists. Let me remark: Islamic culture in the 13th century was Arab, Greek, Persian, Jewish, Berber, Babylonian culture, so the claim that it wasn't Islamic civillazation is nonesense because then all this cultures were an integral part of Islamic culture.
Today's Islamic culture is Arab mostly because today's Islam is a replacement and an alternative form of Arab nationalis, which developed Islamism in general and Wahabbism in particular.
No. Non-muSSlims that they conquered invented it. Just like the 'great soviet (or nazi-german) scientific achievements'........all done by Jews
No, they were Arabs and Muslims of non-Arab-Muslims who went through "Mista'irab" procces, which is a procces of Non-Muslims who became Muslim, started to talk Arabic and adopted the Arab culture. Espacielly because the Arabs had spaciel rights, but after that all Muslims had the same rights.
You said (with regard to oppression and violence)....
I just read my previous comments and didn't find a thing like that...
That amounts to the same thing.
No, it isn't. As Christians were violence in the dark ages, Christianety is very not-voilence religion so Christians and Christianety is not always the same is Muslims and Islam is not always the same.
They're the same but with different weapons and no aeroplanes to hijack.
When did the majoraty of Muslims in the golden-age were so violence ?
ugh...im just going to go back 600 years, and kill all those apparent muslim "inventors". In Medieval 2, i nfact, ill just destroy all of islam, and save the world a heck of a lot of trouble. Playing as the Byzantium empire...giving our Serbian brothers all the glory
And I would have destroy the Christians who unleashed the Crusades who killed almost ALL Jews in Eress Yisrael and many many Jews inside Europe and the Middle East.
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