Mufti Wants Moratorium on French Law Separating Church and State

[Ambiorix]

Can of Worms: Mufti Wants Moratorium on French Law Separating Church and State
From the desk of Tiberge on Fri, 2008-02-01 13:06
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/2927

The mufti of the Paris mosque, Dalil Boubakeur, has dropped what amounts to a political and religious bomb. He proposes a moratorium on the French law of 1905 separating Church and State, because not enough mosques are being built in France.

Besides his position as mufti, he is the president of the CFCM (French Council of the Muslim Faith), an association officially established in 2003 thanks to the efforts of Minister of the Interior Nicolas Sarkozy.

Questioned by Le Monde, Mr. Boubakeur set forth the idea of a “moratorium of 10 to 20 years” on the 1905 law, which forbids all public funding of places of worship, so that Islam can “catch up” on its needs. “The associations that administer houses of worship need to be given air to breathe,” he says.

This has to be one of the most daring statements made yet by a Muslim leader in France. There are at least 1500 mosques and prayer rooms in France, 75 in Paris alone.

Dalil Boubakeur’s proposal to suspend the 1905 law has incensed France’s radical secularists, the advocates of “laïcité,” who see in his words a predictable maneuver, welcomed by the State and Churches alike, for the purpose of restoring the power of religion to all spheres of French life.

Militants of “laïcité” are convinced that Nicolas Sarkozy intends, through modifications to the existing law, to impose his view of the equality of all religions onto the French people, instead of maintaining the strict separation that has been enforced until recently when Islam came into the picture.
 
The blog Riposte Laïque writes:
Sarkozy, through his speeches in Rome and then in Ryadh rolled out the red carpet to the Churches, and someone had to go into the breach. This role fell to the freedom-destroying mufti of the Paris mosque, since Islam is the spear-head of this offensive.

Their fear, despite what they say about Islam, is of the return of Christianity, especially Catholicism, to the decision-making process of the government, as the following statements attest:
Furthermore, in Europe, 20 countries out of 25 are signatories of concordats with the Catholic Church. Now they want all of France to be aligned with those countries.

Riposte Laïque calls for a massive protest, first at the local level, then a march towards Paris. Among the organizations cited as participants in this protest are the Grand Orient of France (Freemasons) and the Ligue de l'Enseignement (League of Teachers).
 
Sarkozy has (knowingly?) opened a can of worms with his initiatives on religion. But the essential problem remains Islam. The advocates of “laïcité” seem to forget that there can be no separation of Church and State in Islam and that if Islam is going to be given privileges, it automatically means the end of the law of 1905. Sarkozy is banking on the fallacious notion of “equality” of religions and is throwing all religions together in the same arena to find a way of co-existing.

[mord]

Moslems want special rules for themselfs

[Ambiorix]

Moslems want special rules for themselfs

they want to rule us.

[Ambiorix]

http://kleinverzet.blogspot.com/2008/01/grand-mufti-speeches-at-eu-warns.html

Grand Mufti speeches at the EU, warns The Netherlands

In their infinite wisdom, the European Parliament invited the Grand Mufti of Syria, Ahmad Badr Al-Din Hassoun, to deliver a speech. Supposedly, he's the first in a series of 'eminent religious and cultural leaders' to address the Toy Parliament in this, the EUnions 'Year of Intercultural Dialogue'. Naturally, the EP itself was gushing with praise and goodwill towards the Grand Mufti:
In a speech to MEPs on Tuesday on the subject of intercultural dialogue, the Grand Mufti of Syria, Ahmad Badr Al-Din Hassoun, stressed the value of culture as a unifying rather than a dividing force. Dr Hassoun was addressing a formal sitting of Parliament as the first speaker in a series of visits by eminent religious and cultural leaders in 2008, which has been designated European Year of Intercultural Dialogue.

Opening his address, the Grand Mufti stressed that "there is one single culture" in the world, the culture of humankind. Indeed, he said, "we are all building one culture, so I do not believe in the conflict of cultures".

If a clash did exist, this was "a conflict with ignorance, terrorism and backwardness". Stressing the universality of culture, he said that the Soviet and American space agencies, in sending men to the moon, had built on the civilisation founded by Europeans before them. In addition, "those who built the pyramids are among our grandfathers". These examples showed that "civilisation is one".
The Grand Mufti denied there is such a thing as "Holy war", telling the gathered MEPs that there is only "Holy Peace". However, completely missing from the EU's own reporting was the warning Dr. Hassoun has for the Netherlands (NL):
Should it come to riots, bloodshed and violence after broadcating the Quran movie by PVV-leader Geert Wilders, then Wilders will be responsible.

This was said by the Grand Mufti of Syria, Ahmad Badr Al-Din Hassoun, Tuesday in teh European Parliament, where he gave a speech at the invitation of the fraction presidents.

If Wilders tears up or burn a Quran in his film 'this will simply mean he is inciting wars and bloodshed. And he will be responsible', according to te Grand Mufti.

Al Hassoun thinks it is 'the responsibility of the Dutch people to stop Wilders'.
Which comes down to a case of blackmail against the Netherlands, in direct contradiction to the 'peaceful' nature of the Grand Mufti's speech as reported by the EP's own site, doesn't?

Why was this primitive loudmouth allowed to address the EP in the first place? And why wasn't he taken to task anout the persecution of Christians and others of a faith not islam in Syria and the ME at large? It speaks volumes about the EUnions dedication to freedom (none) that the entire parliament enthusiatically applauded a speaker that made some not very veiled threats against one of the EU member states, one of the founding states, even. No protests, just a gushing report on the speech, glossing over the less refined passages in it. Mustn't offend the Mufti, you see. Appeasement, that is what matters.

Can we leave yet?

[2honest]

I dont see that the French mufti will succeed in the forseeable future as a majority of the French people support laïcité. It will not be changed unless there is a muslim majority in France, which will hopefully never be the case.

[Ambiorix]

I dont see that the French mufti will succeed in the forseeable future as a majority of the French people support laïcité. It will not be changed unless there is a muslim majority in France, which will hopefully never be the case.

35% of the babies boen in France are muslims, but that was 15 years ago...

[2honest]

I dont see that the French mufti will succeed in the forseeable future as a majority of the French people support laïcité. It will not be changed unless there is a muslim majority in France, which will hopefully never be the case.

35% of the babies boen in France are muslims, but that was 15 years ago...

Indeed, birthrate combined with immigration is the biggest thread for Europe.

[Ambiorix]

I dont see that the French mufti will succeed in the forseeable future as a majority of the French people support laïcité. It will not be changed unless there is a muslim majority in France, which will hopefully never be the case.

35% of the babies boen in France are muslims, but that was 15 years ago...

Indeed, birthrate combined with immigration is the biggest thread for Europe.

... and for Israel, Canada, USA, Australia,...

[MassuhDGoodName]

Re:  "...I dont see that the French mufti will succeed in the forseeable future as a majority of the French people support laïcité. It will not be changed unless there is a muslim majority in France, which will hopefully never be the case..."

I think the Mufti Mamzer should get exactly as he wants!

Call a moratorium on separation of church & state.

Then, declare France an Official Christian Republic where Islam is ILLEGAL.

Then throw the bastards out back to Algeria & Morocco where they can sh*t outside & be happy.

[Ambiorix]

Re:  "...I dont see that the French mufti will succeed in the forseeable future as a majority of the French people support laïcité. It will not be changed unless there is a muslim majority in France, which will hopefully never be the case..."

I think the Mufti Mamzer should get exactly as he wants!

Call a moratorium on separation of church & state.

Then, declare France an Official Christian Republic where Islam is ILLEGAL.

Then throw the bastards out back to Algeria & Morocco where they can sh*t outside & be happy.

Hi Massuh,

The mufti of the Paris mosque, Dalil Boubakeur, has dropped what amounts to a political and religious bomb. He proposes a moratorium on the French law of 1905 separating Church and State, because not enough mosques are being built in France.

Besides his position as mufti, he is the president of the CFCM (French Council of the Muslim Faith), an association officially established in 2003 thanks to the efforts of Minister of the Interior Nicolas Sarkozy.

Questioned by Le Monde, Mr. Boubakeur set forth the idea of a “moratorium of 10 to 20 years” on the 1905 law, which forbids all public funding of places of worship, so that Islam can “catch up” on its needs. “The associations that administer houses of worship need to be given air to breathe,” he says.