Coulter Ben Pesach says vote for Hillary Sodom

[GUTB]

How can you betray me Chaim?  I used to be a loyal follower.

בגדת בי. בגדת בי

 

[newman]

Mills is right.

Chaim is not responible for for every comment of Anne Coulter's, nor does he endorse EVERY comment or view she holds.

[cjd]

How in the world could Chaim be responsible for what comes out of Coulter's mouth. Thats really a funny thing to write in your first post.

[RationalThought110]

The thread title doesn't make sense.

Have you previously posted on this forum? 

[newman]

I think we have a troll trying to be subtle. It's about the lamest trolling attempt I've seen for a while.

[cjd]

I think we have a troll trying to be subtle. It's about the lamest trolling attempt I've seen for a while.

Well at least he put his cards on the table with his first post

[GUTB]

JTF is now opposed to Ann Coulter.

Great.  Now you go and tell that to all the tens of thousands of brainwashed jtf minions that chaim, in his insane megalomaniacal fashion, has convinced otherwise.

What were his exact words when he was bashing Ron Paul last month "We love ann coulter"

Yes, I was a loyal follower of JTF long before kikes like you ever heard of the show.

I can tell you personally, after carefully reading and listening to the show and site for years, I was one of those who actually "got my pencil and paper", wrote things down.

JTf is inconsistant.  JTF has come to appoint where it is NOT in American's best interest to support Israel.  That's why I personally have chosen Israel over America.

You can't have dual loyalties.  Vancier makes a good point.  Paul is a terrible candidate for Israel but great for America.

Yes, he's a closet antisemite, but I'd rather have a closet antisemite than hillary rhodam soddom or barrack osama.

Another thing, Vancier's prediction in 2002 was that Jeb Bush would get the Republican nomination after Jorgé was done with his fascistic reign.  He was wrong.

We have to keep in mind that Vancier (Ben Pesach) could be working for someone else now.  His views are not nearly as consistent as they used to be when I used to listen to him years ago.  It's possible that he has been subverted.

Thank  you lisa for not deleting my post like you did last time.  Either you're asleep, or you've been fired.

By the way, I saw coulter for what she was a long time ago.

[cjd]

JTF is now opposed to Ann Coulter.

Great.  Now you go and tell that to all the tens of thousands of brainwashed jtf minions that chaim, in his insane megalomaniacal fashion, has convinced otherwise.

What were his exact words when he was bashing Ron Paul last month "We love ann coulter"

Yes, I was a loyal follower of JTF long before kikes like you ever heard of the show.

I can tell you personally, after carefully reading and listening to the show and site for years, I was one of those who actually "got my pencil and paper", wrote things down.

JTf is inconsistant.  JTF has come to appoint where it is NOT in American's best interest to support Israel.  That's why I personally have chosen Israel over America.

You can't have dual loyalties.  Vancier makes a good point.  Paul is a terrible candidate for Israel but great for America.

Yes, he's a closet antisemite, but I'd rather have a closet antisemite than hillary rhodam soddom or barrack osama.

Another thing, Vancier's prediction in 2002 was that Jeb Bush would get the Republican nomination after Jorgé was done with his fascistic reign.  He was wrong.

We have to keep in mind that Vancier (Ben Pesach) could be working for someone else now.  His views are not nearly as consistent as they used to be when I used to listen to him years ago.  It's possible that he has been subverted.

Thank  you lisa for not deleting my post like you did last time.  Either you're asleep, or you've been fired.

By the way, I saw coulter for what she was a long time ago.

Honestly you must be kidding. What exactly are you trying to say here. Its plain to see your only mission here is to insult Chaim. Find yourself some other place to play. Unless you have a better argument we are not buying your garbage.

[newman]

This jerk gets on here about once every 2/3 months. The last time he raved on about all the 'millions' Chaim makes out of JTF!

Hose this turd out of here.

[cjd]

This jerk gets on here about once every 2/3 months. The last time he raved on about all the 'millions' Chaim makes out of JTF!

Hose this turd out of here.

He should have been tossed out after the first post!

[Guy Under The Bridge]

Honestly you must be kidding. What exactly are you trying to say here. Its plain to see your only mission here is to insult Chaim. Find yourself some other place to play. Unless you have a better argument we are not buying your garbage.

You're a disgrace to Judaism and Jews.  I believe it was one of the founding fathers who said that a patriot is a hard thing to come by in the begining and then everyone joins him once his cause becomes popular.

I spent many a night, after a long trek home from work, in the freezing cold, on my computer, debating, fighting, fighting the information war for Israel, debunking Moslems.  I must have made at least 10,000 individual posts on the internet defending Israel from eurotrash nazis and their moslem cohorts.

Now I see kike judenrat left wing Jews suddenly as "The voice" for this movement.  These rotten kikes.  They don't know what a republic is, they don't know what emancipation is, they don't know what "we the people" means, and lastly, they don't know jack [censored] about Judaism.

Go and read the American constitution and the bill of rights.  Then go and read a little about Jewish history.  Learn a little bit about your people from an historical point of view.

How are Americans supposed to give a [censored] about Israel?  The fight is not for the shetachim!!!  The fight is for the very FREEDOMS of the people of Israel.  You can give a billion dollars to the settlers, the deep rooted marxist fascist government of Israel is going to give it away.

You keep feeding the beast, and you will not win.  No, Israel is not the Or La'Amim, the American constitution is.  You will never have a strong Israel if you do not have a strong America.  Untill people like you and vancier get your heads out of your asses and realize this, than you are carrying on a futile war.

Yes, support Israel.  But only if you are going to move there.  If you are going to stay in America, then America comes first, and Israel second.

This jerk gets on here about once every 2/3 months. The last time he raved on about all the 'millions' Chaim makes out of JTF!

No.  I posted once a year ago.  A post to the tune of this one but it was immediately deleted by 'lisa' and I was subsequently banned.

Thanks for banning me.  Next time try banning my IP address, you might have more luck, temporarily.

It's funny that someone who promoted JTF in it's internet infancy, someone who was the person responsible for spreading it accross message boards (Vancier started with his "post us on message boards" tirade after I, a very respected member of a large message board, advertised there on a constant basis), should now be banned from the long overdue jtf message board.

What's next, you're going to hire scientology's lawyers to stalk me?

[cjd]

Wow! I could go with a point or two you make in your reply however you seem to have serious issues with JTF. I don't know anything about your prior banning. I have been here right along from the start and have been listening to Chaim for years. I honestly don't see the change in JTF you speak of. I think its wrong for you to come out of the blue and insult the people of the forum as you do. What name did you go by the last time you were here it may shed some light on things for us about you.

[newman]

Wow! I could go with a point or two you make in your reply however you seem to have serious issues with JTF. I don't know anything about your prior banning. I have been here right along from the start and have been listening to Chaim for years. I honestly don't see the change in JTF you speak of. I think its wrong for you to come out of the blue and insult the people of the forum as you do. What name did you go by the last time you were here it may shed some light on things for us about you.

Look,

It's just a Chaim bash except he's trying a flanking attack instead of a frontal assault.

[nessuno]

Why post on JTF GUTB?
It seems like you have a bad case of Sour Grapes.
If I believed what you do...I'd be a million miles away from here.

[mord]

The Constitution is of utmost importance but to compare it to the Torah the word of G-D is evil.And to call chaim a bogad is is shamefull

[GUTB2]

Why post on JTF GUTB?
It seems like you have a bad case of Sour Grapes.
If I believed what you do...I'd be a million miles away from here.

You'd better believe it.  If you like, I can direct you to my countless usenet posts supporting JTF back in the day, and with more difficulty, my forum posts.

You should be a million miles away from here.  JTF practices nothing of what it preaches.  JTF's forums are like stalinist russia, if they don't like what you say it's a post delete plus ban.

I understand a need for moderation, I've been on the internet for quite a while, and rarely do you come across such a suppressive forum.  The only thing JTF is good for is supporting the No'Ar Ha'Givaot financially, and for this I applaud them, but they are losing their core supporters such as myself because of megalomaniacal narcissism, failure to adapt, and a generally inadequate understanding of Jewish history.

I have to admit, I did learn quite a bit back from JTF, back in the day.  JTF introduced me to Ben Hecht's Perfidy, and a lot of underlying causes of evil in the world.  And that's why I am back here.  I want to give back.  But at the same time, I have supported JTF throughout this time, and I have received nothing but digested dog food in return.

Quit your shït.  It's time for this movement to show it's balls.  I've had enough of this maniacal screaming and yelling at stupidity.  We need action now.  The problems Israel face is caused by a much broader scope.  The new world order.  They manipulate us through our religion.  Read about Jewish history.

Do you think circumcision is the same now as we did it originally?  Hmm...  Maybe the Herodian puppet régime of rome had something to do with it.  You can start your history lesson by reading about a fellow named John Kellogg and then you can move on to Morris Fishbein.

The Constitution is of utmost importance but to compare it to the Torah the word of G-D is evil.And to call chaim a bogad is is shamefull

And you just prove my point by showing your ignorance.  The constitution is BASED on the Torah.  It was probably founded on deep talmudic understanding.  The constitution is based on the basic definition of property.

Being the kind person that I am, I will foward you to a 5 hour lesson on the constitution by a gentleman named Michael Badnarik who was the candidate for the Libertarian Party way back when...  Here you will learn about things like Allodial Titles, Automobile's Manufacturers Statements of Origin, and a lot of other things that might just save your little ignorant mind in the future:

Here is a link to a playlist I made for Windows Media Player for all seven parts, so they will play seamlessly, and you won't have to click on the next part once the first one finishes:
http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?cat=other&file=Michael_Badnarik__s_Class.wvx


And here is a direct link to the site, in case you don't trust my link:
http://www.archive.org/details/Michael_Badnarik

Thank you for unbanning my IP.  I could have bypassed it with a proxy server, but I have become sick as of late from all this fighting I have been doing over tha past ten years, and quite frankly, I just don't have the energy today as I used to.

[cjd]

Why post on JTF GUTB?
It seems like you have a bad case of Sour Grapes.
If I believed what you do...I'd be a million miles away from here.

You'd better believe it.  If you like, I can direct you to my countless usenet posts supporting JTF back in the day, and with more difficulty, my forum posts.

You should be a million miles away from here.  JTF practices nothing of what it preaches.  JTF's forums are like stalinist russia, if they don't like what you say it's a post delete plus ban.

I understand a need for moderation, I've been on the internet for quite a while, and rarely do you come across such a suppressive forum.  The only thing JTF is good for is supporting the No'Ar Ha'Givaot financially, and for this I applaud them, but they are losing their core supporters such as myself because of megalomaniacal narcissism, failure to adapt, and a generally inadequate understanding of Jewish history.

I have to admit, I did learn quite a bit back from JTF, back in the day.  JTF introduced me to Ben Hecht's Perfidy, and a lot of underlying causes of evil in the world.  And that's why I am back here.  I want to give back.  But at the same time, I have supported JTF throughout this time, and I have received nothing but digested dog food in return.

Quit your shït.  It's time for this movement to show it's balls.  I've had enough of this maniacal screaming and yelling at stupidity.  We need action now.  The problems Israel face is caused by a much broader scope.  The new world order.  They manipulate us through our religion.  Read about Jewish history.

Do you think circumcision is the same now as we did it originally?  Hmm...  Maybe the Herodian puppet régime of rome had something to do with it.  You can start your history lesson by reading about a fellow named John Kellogg and then you can move on to Morris Fishbein.

The Constitution is of utmost importance but to compare it to the Torah the word of G-D is evil.And to call chaim a bogad is is shamefull

And you just prove my point by showing your ignorance.  The constitution is BASED on the Torah.  It was probably founded on deep talmudic understanding.  The constitution is based on the basic definition of property.

Being the kind person that I am, I will foward you to a 5 hour lesson on the constitution by a gentleman named Michael Badnarik who was the candidate for the Libertarian Party way back when...  Here you will learn about things like Allodial Titles, Automobile's Manufacturers Statements of Origin, and a lot of other things that might just save your little ignorant mind in the future:

Here is a link to a playlist I made for Windows Media Player for all seven parts, so they will play seamlessly, and you won't have to click on the next part once the first one finishes:
http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?cat=other&file=Michael_Badnarik__s_Class.wvx


And here is a direct link to the site, in case you don't trust my link:
http://www.archive.org/details/Michael_Badnarik

Thank you for unbanning my IP.  I could have bypassed it with a proxy server, but I have become sick as of late from all this fighting I have been doing over tha past ten years, and quite frankly, I just don't have the energy today as I used to.

You seem to have quite a bit of energy to insult JTF. JTF allows people to speak on their forum at times far longer than they should. I have seen forums ban people for far less then you have said already. If you have something you feel is worth discussing you should do it in a civil way. People here will debate almost anything that is presented in a reasonable manor. Whats with all the smoke and mirrors (redundant accounts)? You say you were here in the past tell us who you were. JTF despite what you claim is one of the best forums around. The fact that you are overworking yourself trying to post here only proves that point.

[Dexter]

No'Ar Ha'Givaot

No'ar HaGva'ot*

Why you don't like JTF (or you do) ?

[Masha]

The way I see it, one can't be both good for America and bad for Israel. Policies that are bad for Israel will eventually be detrimental to America as well. We are told: "I will bless them that bless you and curse them that curse you." A country that supposedly "defends it national interests" to the detriment of Israel is on the wrong track. G-d will punish it sooner or later. Any country's national interests should be in agreement with G-d's plan that involves Israel. People who talk about a supposed conflict between Israel's and America's interests must be secular. A national policy based on secularist reasoning will ultimately fail, I am sure.

[GUTB2]

You seem to have quite a bit of energy to insult JTF. JTF allows people to speak on their forum at times far longer than they should. I have seen forums ban people for far less then you have said already. If you have something you feel is worth discussing you should do it in a civil way. People here will debate almost anything that is presented in a reasonable manor. Whats with all the smoke and mirrors (redundant accounts)? You say you were here in the past tell us who you were. JTF despite what you claim is one of the best forums around. The fact that you are overworking yourself trying to post here only proves that point.

To quote an infamous talmudic commentator who's name escapes me at this moment, you have the logic of a donkey.  I thought fot a moment that it was the שב שמעתע(sp?), but it isn't.

Why you don't like JTF (or you do) ?

I don't like JTF anymore because it has turned into an emulation of some crazed fascistic cult.  Judaism is about exploring the torah and not just the written torah but learn the sciences.  Learn history, and learn about Jewish archaeology.  Watch Simcha Jacobivici (Jacobivici conclusively proves that the first phonetic language was invented by the Jews, not the "Phoenicians" a barbaric sea-warring nation.  American scientists fail to accept this for reasons known to us, my people.  It's one of the episodes of The Naked Archaeologist and I can tell you witch one), study theories.  Evolution....

I was born and raised ultra orthdox Lubavitch, btw.

The way I see it, one can't be both good for America and bad for Israel. Policies that are bad for Israel will eventually be detrimental to America as well. We are told: "I will bless them that bless you and curse them that curse you." A country that supposedly "defends it national interests" to the detriment of Israel is on the wrong track. G-d will punish it sooner or later. Any country's national interests should be in agreement with G-d's plan that involves Israel. People who talk about a supposed conflict between Israel's and America's interests must be secular. A national policy based on secularist reasoning will ultimately fail, I am sure.

You fail to understand a basic concept.  You have a bunch of lab rats in America in a cage with a lynx and a bunch of labrats in a cage in Israel with a fox.  Americans cannot support Israel when war veterans are coming back and being forced to live in homeless shelters.  Get this through your thick skull.

Americans are fighting for their gulps of air just as we are.  DO YOU UNDERSTAND THIS?

Why should an American Jew sacrifice his family's life to support Israel while the Israeli elitist billionaires will end up with that money and use it to destroy Israel even more.

We need a more constructive plan other than dealing with uneducated absolutisms.

[Merkava]

Yes, I was a loyal follower of JTF long before kikes like you ever heard of the show.

Why do you refer to Jews as Kikes?

[cjd]

You seem to have quite a bit of energy to insult JTF. JTF allows people to speak on their forum at times far longer than they should. I have seen forums ban people for far less then you have said already. If you have something you feel is worth discussing you should do it in a civil way. People here will debate almost anything that is presented in a reasonable manor. Whats with all the smoke and mirrors (redundant accounts)? You say you were here in the past tell us who you were. JTF despite what you claim is one of the best forums around. The fact that you are overworking yourself trying to post here only proves that point.

To quote an infamous talmudic commentator who's name escapes me at this moment, you have the logic of a donkey.  I thought fot a moment that it was the שב שמעתע(sp?), but it isn't.

Why you don't like JTF (or you do) ?

I don't like JTF anymore because it has turned into an emulation of some crazed fascistic cult.  Judaism is about exploring the torah and not just the written torah but learn the sciences.  Learn history, and learn about Jewish archaeology.  Watch Simcha Jacobivici (Jacobivici conclusively proves that the first phonetic language was invented by the Jews, not the "Phoenicians" a barbaric sea-warring nation.  American scientists fail to accept this for reasons known to us, my people.  It's one of the episodes of The Naked Archaeologist and I can tell you witch one), study theories.  Evolution....

I was born and raised ultra orthdox Lubavitch, btw.

The way I see it, one can't be both good for America and bad for Israel. Policies that are bad for Israel will eventually be detrimental to America as well. We are told: "I will bless them that bless you and curse them that curse you." A country that supposedly "defends it national interests" to the detriment of Israel is on the wrong track. G-d will punish it sooner or later. Any country's national interests should be in agreement with G-d's plan that involves Israel. People who talk about a supposed conflict between Israel's and America's interests must be secular. A national policy based on secularist reasoning will ultimately fail, I am sure.

You fail to understand a basic concept.  You have a bunch of lab rats in America in a cage with a lynx and a bunch of labrats in a cage in Israel with a fox.  Americans cannot support Israel when war veterans are coming back and being forced to live in homeless shelters.  Get this through your thick skull.

Americans are fighting for their gulps of air just as we are.  DO YOU UNDERSTAND THIS?

Why should an American Jew sacrifice his family's life to support Israel while the Israeli elitist billionaires will end up with that money and use it to destroy Israel even more.

We need a more constructive plan other than dealing with uneducated absolutisms.

You made me laugh with this post. You must let me know who that infamous talmudic commentator is. What can I tell you your to smart for me maybe you should talk to yourself I really am not educated enough to deal with lunatics. People go to collage for years to deal with that sort of thing and then only then still get mixed results.

[MassuhDGoodName]

Re:  GUTB

You are obviously a person of great depth; and the well-composed style of your writing indicates to me that you are a person of intellect.

Much of your criticism is well taken, and should give JTF members pause for thought.

America's national and foreign interests are not one and the same as The State of Israel.

This 'inconvenient truth' was emphatically stated by Rabbi Meir Kahane, who warned all Jews worldwide to make emergency aliyah before it is too late.

True, G-d judges nations as to their treatment of Israel, but G-d also allows for nations' failure and disobedience.

The "spiritual Torah-true obligations" of the U.S.A. to support the Jewish People has long been abandoned, and this "obsession" with which candidate will be "the best for Israel" is nothing more than the psychological behavior known as "denial".

I myself have repeatedly stated on this forum that the current policies of Washington betraying Israel will continue unabated, regardless of which Party or which candidate assumes power in the next election.

I will go so far as to state for the record on this forum, that after the next election, the American Jews will consider Washington's current betrayal of Israel as "the good old days".

Already Washington is riddled from top to bottom with Islamists, even to the point of being appointed as "advisers" to our top brass Pentagon generals.

Not only are America's borders deliberately left unprotected, but State Department official policy is also encouraging large scale Muslim immigration to our shores.

As Big Oil just yesterday announced the greatest corporate profits in all of recorded history (timed perfectly for weekend media...when most of America is relaxing and not paying attention to the news), it becomes increasing clear that America is totally dependent on petroleum and has no intention whatsoever of becoming less dependent.

It should also be clear to all that Big Oil controls America's energy policies; not the American people.

Sometimes a person of convictions simply has to "vent" their frustrations and feelings of deep disappointment, and in doing so they are actually "reaching out" to those whom they consider to be in great danger.

I myself have done so on this forum on more than one occassion; and I am in favor of GUTB remaining on the forum for the purposes of educating all of us here in matters which GUTB deems of importance.

I would only ask for GUTB to henceforth refrain from personal criticisms (such as those directed at Chaim), and I also ask for fellow JTF members to allow this person freedom to post here as they see fit and to give consideration to GUTB's thoughts.

Debate should you disagree with him, but do so on an "impersonal" level, without resorting to "name-calling".

There can never be progress and advancement without some degree of friction and resistance placed between the starting point and the destination.

We all could stand to be challenged from time to time...steel must be tempered by first passing through fire.

[Dr. Dan]

Fox news is owned by Saudi Arabia...that means all the movie stars on the Fox news network are under hostage and getting paid Saudi money to say what Saudi wants to hear them say. That include Coulter who was just as fake as the next "conservative". 

The Aliens are taking over...same thing the Nazis did..same thing from the series "V"

I know I keep bringing it up, but the Muslims are taking over much like the Nazis did.

[MassuhDGoodName]

Merkava [to GUTB2]:  "...Why do you refer to Jews as Kikes?..."

That's not what he wrote.

What he wrote was "kikes like you".