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MarZutra:
George Santayana stated: "Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it" which apparently applies to your belief that my statement was "foolish".
If America would have dropped ONE bomb on Tokyo the total effect would have had the same result as the bombing of the two smaller cities. Secondly, if you had studied History you would have known, forget the history of Armand Hammer and his like ilk: "Red Carpet"- Joseph Finder, "Dossier: The Secret History of Armand Hammer"- Edward Jay Epstein or Wall St. and the Bolshevik Revolution and Rise of Hitler"- Antony Sutton, that the only reason why America hadn't gone to war with Russia is due to the Nazis breaking of the Hitler-Stalin Pact, or German-Soviet Nonaggression Pact or Nazi-Soviet Pact and formally known as the Treaty of Nonaggression, between Germany and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics in Hitlers need for living space; "Libenstraum". The purpose was a non-aggression treaty between the German Third Reich and the Soviet Union. It was signed in Moscow on August 23, 1939. This agreement laid base for the dismembering of Europe between the Nazis and the Communists allowing Hitler to conduct a one front war against the Allies: Britian, Canada, France, Poland and would be America. "Rise and Fall of the Third Reich"- Shirer, "Inside the Third Reich"- Speer, "Adolf Hitler"- Toland, Payne and Bullock People seem to forget the fact that this started the WW2 and further dismiss the fact that Communist Russia was just as guilty to be an enemy of America as Nazi Germany due to the fact they invaded Poland from the East, and subsequently the Baltic States, while Hitler advanced from the West. This too is a fantastic point which is ALWAYS dismissed by John Dewey's "Progressive" Liberal Eduction System which promulgated Stalins 1929 ideological development of "Political Correctness" which placed condemnation on the Comintern to portray Mother Russia, Communism and Russian Governmental policies in any negative way whatsoever; "Fabian Freeway"- R.L. Martin, "Joseph McCarthy"- A. Herman. Funny how "Political Correctness" has become a household word/ideology in the "Democratic" West, isn't it? This is perhaps the reason why the only enemy of "Freedom" is Nazism taught in school and whitewashing Communism and all education on Karl Marx, Martin Luther King, Rosa Parks etc. "I saw Poland Betrayed"- Arthur Lane and Katyn Massacre by Louis FitzGibbon Numbers alone, both Jew and Gentile, place Communism at a far greater threat than the Nazis pre and post WW2.
Further, the fact that since, and well before 1917 England and Europe wanted to eliminate Communism emphatically: Re Winston Chruchill's personal writings, "Proof of a Conspiracy"- John Robison published in 1798 and "Illusions of Victory"- Thomas Flemming etc.. So, it is only by luck that Hitler had violated this Pact allowing Communist Russia to become an "ally" of the Western democracies.....which we have been paying for ever since. More specifically since FDR with his Communist Spy "advisor": Alger Hiss "Witness" - Witiker Chambers" made their “blunder” at Yalta Conference, sometimes called the Crimea Conference and codenamed the Argonaut Conference, was the wartime meeting from February 4, 1945 to February 11, 1945, allowing a great portion of free Europe to fall behind the Iron Curtain. "Wall St. and FDR"- Antony Sutton, "The Naked Communist" - Cleon Skousen & "Tragedy and Hope & The Anglo-American Establishment"- Carrol Quigley
To further enlighten you to the fact that Soviet Russia murdered just as many Jews and more non-Jews than Hitler had done in their Russian Gulag concentration camp system, mass starvations, purges, or 5 year plans and later "Great Leap Forwards" of Communist China. Perhaps the fact that there had been more White Slaves in Russia than Black slaves in ALL of the British Empire combined might clue you into where I was heading with my earlier post? The killing of Jews is a non-issue because it was occurring on mass in both Nazi Germany and Russia whether it be under the Tsar or Communism. "The Gulag Archipelago, Vol 1-3"- Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn.
"Civilians"? Allow me to enlighten you to the fact that Communism doesn't allow for people to be seen as special but only animals that are expendable when their worth to the State runs its course. So the fact that I had suggested Moscow being made into a glass parking lot is not only a justified one but would have been a worthy and righteous deed under Jewish moral law. Communism is an enemy of not only Jews but G-d, Nation, Culture, Family, Morality, Private Property; read the "Communist Manifesto" by Karl Marx to see how vile this ideology, that just won’t die, actually is. After all was it not Yahuda HaMaccabbee who righteously faught the Greek Hellenists or Marzutra II these "Utopians" while exhiled in Babylonia? "A History of the Jews"- Paul Johnson, "G-d Jews History"- M. Dimont, "To Eliminate the Opiate"- Rabbi/Dr. Marvin S. Anelman. Subsequently, this is the specific reason why I had chosen the screen name Marzutra ;)
If you had studied history you'd have noticed that if America did obliterate Moscow and vanquished communism in 1945 instead of the inept, and fraudulent, idea of "containment", 150 million people, give or take a few million, would be alive today.
There would have been no Communist China which massacred 60 million souls nor a Communist Cuba, nor Laos, Cambodia, North Korea and the quasi-Socialist/Communist dictatorships in Europe, Asia, Islamic World, Africa and South America. The United States itself would have not suffered "politically" correct wars: Korea, Vietnam and now Iraq and "politically incorrect" battles in Bosnia, Yugoslavia: "Media Cleansing"- Peter Brock, or the Congo and many other places under the UN "Modern Times"- Paul Johnson. The UN itself would be a Non-Entity. "Inside the UN"- Steve Bonta, "The UN Exposed"- William Jasper, "Inside the Asylum"- Jed Babbin or "The Fearful Master"- Edward Griffin. The many up-risings CRUSHED by the Soviets in Europe against Communism; Hungarian Revolution in 1956 against Communism: "Failed Illusions: Moscow, Washington, Budapest, and the 1956 Hungarian Revolt"- Charles Gati, Czeck, Yugo and others for example would never had happened. America wouldn't have been faced with Communist Spies infiltration every aspect of your country's security "Deception" E. Epstein. Bill Clinton wouldn't have had he need to supply China with your nuclear secrets: Chinagate on Wikipedia or www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/5/26/214938.shtml "Ron Brown's Body"- J. Cashill, "Code Name Kindred Spirit: Inside the Chinese Nuclear Espionage Scandal" by Notra Trulock, Your Educational system would not have become so dumbed down with Socialism/Communism, Collectivism. "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America"- Charlotte T. Iserbyt
You wish to speak now of the immense positive effect it would have had on Jews? Israel, in all reality, would probably not be the current Bolshevik Hebrew speaking Greece it is today. The War of Independence would have been fought to a successful conclusion with all of "Palestine" under Jewish control due to the UN not having a Communist/Islamic block voting against Israel, which continues to this day. There would have been no 6 Day War, nor Suez, nor Yom Kippur nor any intafadas due to the Communists wouldn't have been there to supply billions, subsequently supplied by American and Western "Foreign Aid" under farcical Lend Lease programs, in military aid to the Muslims, nor would they have been able to set the up the largest military base in history on the Eastern coast of Africa to control the Arabian Sea and control their satilites among the Asia, Islamic World and Africa. Did you know that during both the Korean War and the Vietnam War Americans were fighting their enemies funded and supplied, in fact by Russian/Chinese assembled American Weaponry, vehicles and armorments under too the Lend Lease and Prefered Nation Status with Romania who received the military parts from America then shipped them to Russia where they were assmebled and freighted by train to China to be used against American/UN Soldiers? You can largely thank the CFR (Ford, Carnegie, Rockefeller) for that one: "The Best Enemy Money Can Buy"- Antony Sutton, "Red Dawn"- Gen. I. Pacepa or "Shadows of Power"- James Perloff. Today there wouldn't be such a "Progressive" view of everything in ALL of the media, schools, laws and of course foreign policy.
Who massively backed the Muslims, militarily financially, politically and “propagandically” in EVERY war against Israel? Who is their main supporter today? Who were the partners in fabricating and propagating the hoax of “the Palestinian People”? This is perhaps the only case I’ll agree with the Marxist Dialectical Materialist ideology of “Ends justifies the means”. Knowing all this, I’d gladly sacrifice 5 – 10 million "innocent" souls to save the 150 million already dead and the millions more whom suffered since and will suffer well into the future from this deprave and evil ideology due to it NOT being CRUSHED in 1945. "Through the Eyes of the Enemy"- S. Lunev or "New Lies for Old"- A. Golitsyn.
Perhaps some additional study on Madam Bavlatsky, Alice Bailey and Alister Crowley might also help you to understand this great "Utopian" ideology from a very different yet similar angle. "Isis Unveiled/The Secret Documents"- Bavlatsky, "Inside the New Age Nightmare"- R. Baer, "The Rainbow Swastika"- H. Newman is a very good read and also suggested by Dr. Eugene Narrett.
PS: If Italy, unfortunately, had been in the same military position as their Axis ally Japan, our enemy, that would then have justified, and rightly so, the same conclusion as Japan.....yes.
Below are a few of many good examples justifying my position, which is not "foolish" whatsoever...
MassuhDGoodName:
Re: Marzutra's rebuttal
Marzutra, take some advice from old MassuhD!
It's free; so it's worth what it costs you...
I have found it at times difficult to do, but have made a point of never "getting into it" (an argument) with fellow members who have singled out my threads for a trashing.
Much better to simply respond in a strictly impersonal manner.
The only exceptions I always make to my own rule, are when replying to screeds from Nazis, Muslims, Nation of Islam monkeys, etc... .
Every Jew has at least three diametrically opposed opinions on every subject, so to single anyone out is to be wasting good arguments on a meshuganeh!
Trust me! I should know; I am a meshugenah!
MarZutra:
--- Quote from: MassuhDGoodName on December 09, 2006, 09:50:56 PM ---Re: Marzutra's rebuttal
Marzutra, take some advice from old MassuhD!
It's free; so it's worth what it costs you...
I have found it at times difficult to do, but have made a point of never "getting into it" (an argument) with fellow members who have singled out my threads for a trashing.
Much better to simply respond in a strictly impersonal manner.
The only exceptions I always make to my own rule, are when replying to screeds from Nazis, Muslims, Nation of Islam monkeys, etc... .
Every Jew has at least three diametrically opposed opinions on every subject, so to single anyone out is to be wasting good arguments on a meshuganeh!
Trust me! I should know; I am a meshugenah!
--- End quote ---
I 100% agree with you. Unfortunately most Jews and Gentiles alike are benighted to the History of this "Utopian" Ideology and too the history that is not taught on A&E, especially Jewish History. To make a statement of one's opinion to be "Foolish" is not only rude but it is insulting. If there are opinions or statements of which you, or anyone for that matter, disagrees....why not ask "Why?". At least that way it would allow the responder and others to see the logic or illogic behind bold statements or ones opinions.
I agree with and heed your free advice and I do hope that others take it as well. Toda roba ve shalom...
Johnson Brown:
People please don't read fairytales and take them as truth, be careful what you read and add common sense to it.
Please can't we all just get a long on here.
MarZutra:
--- Quote from: Johnson Brown on December 10, 2006, 08:50:33 AM ---People please don't read fairytales and take them as truth, be careful what you read and add common sense to it.
Please can't we all just get a long on here.
--- End quote ---
I have read your other postings some which indicate my 100% agreement while others display your benightedness to politics and socio-political ideologies, specifically: Communism, its like cohorts and their disseminators. I do suppose you think all of my 45 ref's are liars and frauds who are "Right Wing Extremists" or "Religous fundamentalists" especially Dr. Carrol Quigley and Karl Marx? Perhaps they are all Conservative Propagandists like Ann Coulter?
Please, we should all be able to get along just fine if you, specifically, were not rude, insulting, a fool and subsequently an ignoramus....
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