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Offline Mahatma Gandhi

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Why the hatred?
« on: February 08, 2008, 02:11:11 AM »
Hi there!

I am a new member. :)

I fail to understand why there's so much hatred around here. It appears like a Nazi Forum to me. There are at least a couple of fundamental flaws in your understanding.

#1 You say Islam is the culprit, because it encourages people to commit atrocities against humanity. Even if it's true, why are people following it? Suppose a book says: go ahead and behead the first guy you see. Would you take it seriously? But the fact that some people are taking it seriously proves that they're intrinsically hateful, venomous beings, and would've become terrorists, with or without a hateful koran to inspire them.

I am not sure if you understand this, but if you do, you'll see that people are evil, and religion simply gives them a moral sanction, perhaps some inspiration as well. So your idea that Islam is responsible for terrorism makes little sense. If there's no Islam, some other ideology would continue to inspire these blokes to become terrorists. Not so long ago, Christianity was doing a good job at this! ;D

#2 Hatred is never the way forward. Love is. All I see here is hatred for the Muslims, hardly any love for the ideals you allegedly hold dear. Every nation, every civilization has been barbaric. They still are, and Islamic nations/civilizations are no exceptions to this. The western civilization is probably more barbaric than any, and all your talk about having invented 'this or that', having achieved 'this or that' doesn't wash.

Even the Nazis were intellectually superior, they had enough intelligence and creativity to convince millions. But does that mean they were right in trying to exterminating the Jews? ;) Absolutely not! Bottom line, just because the western civilization has achieved so much, it doesn't change the fact that they too were barbarians, they too slaughtered millions with their inquisitions, crusades, imperialism, and the rest. But hypocrites like you try to 'whitewash' these crimes as 'necessary evils', 'white man's burden', and what else not. Likewise, the Muslim may also justify his crimes as a 'Muslim's burden' :D or whatever.

Point being, you hypocrites make it sound as if you're angels, and anyone other than a Judeo-Christian westerner is evil, scum of the earth. The things you say about Mexicans, Blacks etc. are so horrible, Hitler would be proud. It's commonly understood that you become the very thing you hate. By hating the Nazis, you've become Nazis. Congratulations!

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Re: Why the hatred?
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2008, 02:14:26 AM »
Where do you come from Ganhi?
Turkey must get out of NATO. NATO must get out of Kosovo-Serbia. Croats must get out of Crajina. All muslims must get out of Christian and Jewish land. Turks must get out of Cyprus. Turks must get out of "Istanbul". "Palestinians" must get out of Israel. Israel must become independent from USA.

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Re: Why the hatred?
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2008, 02:16:33 AM »
Hatred is necessary and has been with us since the beginning of time.  We have nothing against decent people of all groups. 

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Re: Why the hatred?
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2008, 02:18:55 AM »
sniff sniff *smells troll* resumes sniffing

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Re: Why the hatred?
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2008, 02:19:57 AM »
'Jonny Jappati' here is forgetting one thing.

Western christiannity has undergone a reformation and rejected the mentallity behind the inquisition and crusades. iSSlam has undergone NO reformation but is actually getting more backward and fundamentalist.

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« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2008, 02:20:51 AM »
'Jonny Jappati' here is forgetting one thing.

Western christiannity has undergone a reformation and rejected the mentallity behind the inquisition and crusades. iSSlam has undergone NO reformation but is actually getting more backward and fundamentalist.

An excellent point.  What do you have to say about that, Mahandas?

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Re: Why the hatred?
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2008, 02:22:30 AM »
'Jonny Jappati' here is forgetting one thing.

Western christiannity has undergone a reformation and rejected the mentallity behind the inquisition and crusades. iSSlam has undergone NO reformation but is actually getting more backward and fundamentalist.

An excellent point.  What do you have to say about that, Mahandas?

You mean the Gandhis?

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« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2008, 02:39:16 AM »

#1 You say Islam is the culprit, because it encourages people to commit atrocities against humanity. Even if it's true, why are people following it? Suppose a book says: go ahead and behead the first guy you see. Would you take it seriously? But the fact that some people are taking it seriously proves that they're intrinsically hateful, venomous beings, and would've become terrorists, with or without a hateful koran to inspire them.


Listen Mahatma and listen real good.  No one is born intrinsically evil.  We all have free choice.  But when little children are indoctrinated into thinking the evil book known as Ko-ran is divine from heaven, they will believe every word of it.  Their culture reinforces the idea in them.  Fear tactics and intimidation shove this text and lifestyle down their throats.  By the time they are a functioning adult they have been thoroughly indoctrinated by it.  And depending on the country, if it's Arab or Muslim, they will have the accompanying Jew-hatred spewed to them in the state-run media to thoroughly dehumanize Jews, tactics learned directly from German Nazi war criminals by Arab powers after WWII, sent to them courtesy of the CIA.  

If a person is raised with a certain set of values as to what is right and what is wrong, he will use those values by which to judge himself and others and their accompanying actions.  When he has evil Ko-ran as the moral compass for what is good and what is bad, he will use this to judge his actions.  So now when he makes his decision with free will, he believes what he is doing is right.  He is not telling himself he is doing an evil thing.  He is telling himself that his religion condones this (evil) thing (what we think is evil) as good.  Indeed, much evil is 'sanctified' by the ko-ran as "holy."  

The Muslims have given self-justification for the worst atrocities imaginable through a supposedly 'holy' text, they are convinced they are doing the will of their deity with these acts,  but you dismiss this as 'evil will do evil.'  You think they are intrinsically so sick and twisted that Arabs and those born into Islam would commit vicious murder, pillaging, and rape in the name of 'allah' if there was not a book telling them it is in the name of 'allah'?  That they would still do this to such an overwhelming extent if they were raised with western morals or Judeo-Christian value system?  That they would utterly despise Jews and Christians as descendants of pigs and monkeys and treat them as subhuman, if there was not some text telling them this was the divine plan of the universe?  And you have the nerve to call US hateful Nazis??? How dare you.  You have such utter contempt for Arabs and Muslims that you would call them intrinsically flawed barbarians.  And you have the audacity to call us hateful.  Unbelievable.

You can preach all day long about your pride of the colored man and 'white man was once a barbarian too,' but this is irrelevant.  We are in the here and now.  We can see the evil facing the world and we must confront it.  Your hero Gandhi wouldn't survive this.  Time to take your head out of the sand.


"Even the Nazis were intellectually superior,"


You sick twisted freak.  You wouldn't know intelligence if it smacked you in the head.

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Re: Why the hatred?
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2008, 02:42:14 AM »
YOU GET 24 HOURS TO LEAVE MR. GHANDI !
Turkey must get out of NATO. NATO must get out of Kosovo-Serbia. Croats must get out of Crajina. All muslims must get out of Christian and Jewish land. Turks must get out of Cyprus. Turks must get out of "Istanbul". "Palestinians" must get out of Israel. Israel must become independent from USA.

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Re: Why the hatred?
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2008, 03:19:27 AM »
Listen Gandhi go and preach your crap else where, you freak.

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Re: Why the hatred?
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2008, 03:43:23 AM »
Mahamtma Gandhi was a profoundly wicked man who supported the Arab Imperialists, and said the Jews should commit mass suicide so the Germans wouldnt have the sin of killing us on their hands, and I hope you soon join your namesake in the hell he is currently experiencing.
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Re: Why the hatred?
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2008, 03:54:14 AM »
'Jonny Jappati' here is forgetting one thing.

Western christiannity has undergone a reformation and rejected the mentallity behind the inquisition and crusades. iSSlam has undergone NO reformation but is actually getting more backward and fundamentalist.

EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY!!!!!!!!!!!
WHY THE F*** cant people figure this out before they post such stupidity. 

OBVIOUSLY, Christianity, Hinduism, Sikhism, Budhism, etc etc all have tainted pasts, but guess what???? They've overcome them and adapted well to a civilized world.  In the case of JudeoChristianity, weve led the charge.

Go home and read your Koran!!!  You dont fool us for a second. Your not a hindu or a sikh.  Your a filthy Muslim.




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Re: Why the hatred?
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2008, 04:05:17 AM »
Hey, Mahatma Gandhi.

Hatred is justified against your enemies, those that don't hate the people who seek their destruction are people who have no connection to reality.

1. Islam was created at the 7th century, the starting point of liberalism, freedom, peace etc' didn't existed in these times, nor exist in most Muslims of our era. There is an Indian cult name Kagatis who killed over a million of people since the 17th century C.E. using strangling, they were worshiping the Hindu God of Death [Kali]. They were completly sure what they were (and are) doing is fine, without any affinity to liberalism, Human rights etc'. Today's Muslim leaders don't want that their people will know what's Democracy, Liberlism, Human rights and more. Those who do, and are extreamly observant, become mostly to terrorists or something else.

2. The hippie way of thinking will lead us to the abyss and will doom us. The world is based on voilence, all other things: freedom, liberalism, the right of free speech etc' is derived of voilence only. If you want to keep all the rights we have the way they are, we need to use voilence against those who want to destroy us and all of the human advancement for an Islamic world wide crule rule.

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Re: Why the hatred?
« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2008, 06:02:13 AM »
heya mr ghandi...just make sure you don't end up like that twisted freak ghandi  :::D :::D...

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Re: Why the hatred?
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2008, 06:27:46 AM »
It has long been known that Mahatma Gandhi drank his own steaming hot urine upon awakening every day of his life.

He claimed to have such control over his own mind that he totally abstained from sex throughout his life.

When your favorite morning wake-up is to pee in a cup and drink it because you think it is delicious, nobody in their right mind would ever kiss you; let alone have sex with you.

You are self-righteous, condescending, naive, as well as incredulously stupid.

Go enjoy yourself a nice steaming hot cup of your own piss.

Maybe you can find a neighborhood full of "at risk" youth...you can go there on foot just like Gandhi, and teach yo' peeps' how to drink their own piss.

They love white people so you'll be welcome there.

I'm sure that after you tell them to piss in a mayonnaise jar and drink it down they will love you, and then you can use your urine breath to tell them to vote for Osama Hussein Barakabama.

Then you can move into th' hood where the elevator shafts, stairwells, and hallways smell like your favorite breakfast.

Just think of the diversity!



 

 


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Re: Why the hatred?
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2008, 06:45:19 AM »
Hi there!

I am a new member. :)

I fail to understand why there's so much hatred around here. It appears like a Nazi Forum to me. There are at least a couple of fundamental flaws in your understanding.

#1 You say Islam is the culprit, because it encourages people to commit atrocities against humanity. Even if it's true, why are people following it? Suppose a book says: go ahead and behead the first guy you see. Would you take it seriously? But the fact that some people are taking it seriously proves that they're intrinsically hateful, venomous beings, and would've become terrorists, with or without a hateful koran to inspire them.

I am not sure if you understand this, but if you do, you'll see that people are evil, and religion simply gives them a moral sanction, perhaps some inspiration as well. So your idea that Islam is responsible for terrorism makes little sense. If there's no Islam, some other ideology would continue to inspire these blokes to become terrorists. Not so long ago, Christianity was doing a good job at this! ;D

#2 Hatred is never the way forward. Love is. All I see here is hatred for the Muslims, hardly any love for the ideals you allegedly hold dear. Every nation, every civilization has been barbaric. They still are, and Islamic nations/civilizations are no exceptions to this. The western civilization is probably more barbaric than any, and all your talk about having invented 'this or that', having achieved 'this or that' doesn't wash.

Even the Nazis were intellectually superior, they had enough intelligence and creativity to convince millions. But does that mean they were right in trying to exterminating the Jews? ;) Absolutely not! Bottom line, just because the western civilization has achieved so much, it doesn't change the fact that they too were barbarians, they too slaughtered millions with their inquisitions, crusades, imperialism, and the rest. But hypocrites like you try to 'whitewash' these crimes as 'necessary evils', 'white man's burden', and what else not. Likewise, the Muslim may also justify his crimes as a 'Muslim's burden' :D or whatever.

Point being, you hypocrites make it sound as if you're angels, and anyone other than a Judeo-Christian westerner is evil, scum of the earth. The things you say about Mexicans, Blacks etc. are so horrible, Hitler would be proud. It's commonly understood that you become the very thing you hate. By hating the Nazis, you've become Nazis. Congratulations!

Love,
Mahatma


 :::D  You're funny Mahatama! Hitler would be proud of US?!  Hitler would give YOU the medal of honor!!!   :::D
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« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2008, 06:46:29 AM »
you sick litle man, while you were fornicating, your dad died...you bad bad man ::) 
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Re: Why the hatred?
« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2008, 07:04:41 AM »
Gandhi told Jews don'nt ressist just sit down when  the nazis come. He was also a traitor to India his grandson said Jews love war and was forced to resign from a position  at a university
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Re: Why the hatred?
« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2008, 07:29:10 AM »
Lenin called those people "Useful Idiots".
Not a foreign land we took and not with foreign possession but a land that belong to our ancestors that was occupied without a trial. And when we had the opportunity, we took our land back.
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Re: Why the hatred?
« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2008, 07:41:42 AM »
Thank you all for falling into my trap, and revealing your hatred and stupidity. O0 I was wrong in comparing you freaks to nazis. You are much worse! :D
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« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2008, 07:46:21 AM »

Yup, a troll, good call Chaimfan. Ban time.
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« Reply #21 on: February 08, 2008, 08:02:29 AM »
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1. Islam was created at the 7th century, the starting point of liberalism, freedom, peace etc' didn't existed in these times,

Christians killed millions of women by burning them at stakes, so in what way are they different from Muslims and the rest? People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. ;)
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Re: Why the hatred?
« Reply #22 on: February 08, 2008, 08:10:54 AM »
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1. Islam was created at the 7th century, the starting point of liberalism, freedom, peace etc' didn't existed in these times,

Christians killed millions of women by burning them at stakes, so in what way are they different from Muslims and the rest? People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. ;)

lol  :::D :::D Sorry I think thats pretty valid point  8;)

Except it was not millions, a couple of thousand no more. The Main witch trials in the States really only took a few hundred lives. And they also burnt men.

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« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2008, 08:16:22 AM »
You have such utter contempt for Arabs and Muslims that you would call them intrinsically flawed barbarians.  And you have the audacity to call us hateful.  Unbelievable.

Perhaps, if you learn to read, you wouldn't arrive at such conclusions. ;D I wasn't referring to Arabs at all, but to humans in general.

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You can preach all day long about your pride of the colored man and 'white man was once a barbarian too,' but this is irrelevant.

I am against pride of all kinds, whether it's your silly white pride, or someone else's jewish pride, whatever. Pride is the real enemy, not the Muslim or leftist or whoever. And the white man seems pretty barbaric even today, considering the last fifty years of history alone. Nuclear attacks, world wars, gulf wars, Vietnam war, and much more. All this doesn't point to any 'civilization', gimme a break.

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We are in the here and now.  We can see the evil facing the world and we must confront it.  Your hero Gandhi wouldn't survive this.  Time to take your head out of the sand.

And your solution? Hateful people from christian/jewish/other backgrounds getting together and slaughtering muslims, is that it? ::) Sorry, no takers!

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You sick twisted freak.  You wouldn't know intelligence if it smacked you in the head.

Obviously, you missed the point. Even assuming that they were, would you justify their atrocities? If not, why won't you extend the same logic to the west's harsh treatment of Muslim Nations? That was the principal matter in that post with the nazi thing being just an instance. But you, a faithful jeeew or a loyal cheesus lover, got all offended. :laugh:
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« Reply #24 on: February 08, 2008, 08:18:00 AM »
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1. Islam was created at the 7th century, the starting point of liberalism, freedom, peace etc' didn't existed in these times,

Christians killed millions of women by burning them at stakes, so in what way are they different from Muslims and the rest? People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. ;)

lol  :::D :::D Sorry I think thats pretty valid point  8;)

Except it was not millions, a couple of thousand no more. The Main witch trials in the States really only took a few hundred lives. And they also burnt men.

You must be living on Mars. ;D Check this out. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witch-hunt
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