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Lubab:
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--- Quote from: Raulmarrio2000 on February 24, 2008, 11:17:25 PM ---
--- Quote ---Noahides (non-Jews) are allowed to have marital relations without marriage.
It may even be preferable to just move in with a girlfriend and specifically state that you are NOT married to avoid the very strict consequences of adultery (the death penalty).
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Even being allowed by Hallacha, if a Noahide has a relation with a woman, but no marriage, no steady family? Who would take care of the child they may have? And if they use a contraceptive (even a contraceptive not forbidden by the Noahide Law), wouldn't it be to pervert the purpose of sexual relations, which are meant to preserve human race on earth? What do you think?
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Do you have an answer for my question? BTW, what's better for a married couple who have already many children and can't afford another? Use a permitted contraceptive, or abstain from sexual relations?
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For Jews financial distress is not a very strong reason to give a dispensation for use of a contraceptive. The notion that "I cannot afford another child" can often be a self-fulfillilng prophesy. Most people could afford another if they planned smart and worked harder.
The rules on contraceptive are more lenient for Noahides but it's still not a good thing. Abstaining from sexual relations might be an even worse thing.
I know that's not a clear answer but I hope that at least steers you in the right direction.
Tzvi Ben Roshel1:
Shalom Lubab,
can you just tell me the outline of- what is the Halacha of lets say a Jewish couple has a few kids (or one), but doesn't want to have more kids at a certain time, I was wondering if having relations but using something to prevent pregnancy is allowed or not.
Lubab:
--- Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on February 25, 2008, 06:47:13 PM ---Shalom Lubab,
can you just tell me the outline of- what is the Halacha of lets say a Jewish couple has a few kids (or one), but doesn't want to have more kids at a certain time, I was wondering if having relations but using something to prevent pregnancy is allowed or not.
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Shalom Tzvi and welcome to the Ask Lubab "Show",
This kind of thing needs to be handled on a case by case basis. The particular couple needs to ask a competent Rov and describe their own particular situation.
As a general rule birth control pills will always be preferable to condoms which are (to my knowledge) never permitted.
As a general rule the bigger the chance that the woman can get pregnant the more likely the Rov is to allow that kind of birth control.
As a general rule money is not a good excuse to stop having kids.
As a general rule the main reason women can get a dispensation to use birth control aside from health reasons is because they think they will go insane if they have any more kids.
The problem here is wasting seed which is a big problem for Jews and a problem for Noahides too though not to the same extent.
Tzvi Ben Roshel1:
--- Quote from: lubab on February 25, 2008, 06:53:11 PM ---
--- Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on February 25, 2008, 06:47:13 PM ---Shalom Lubab,
can you just tell me the outline of- what is the Halacha of lets say a Jewish couple has a few kids (or one), but doesn't want to have more kids at a certain time, I was wondering if having relations but using something to prevent pregnancy is allowed or not.
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Shalom Tzvi and welcome to the Ask Lubab "Show",
This kind of thing needs to be handled on a case by case basis. The particular couple needs to ask a competent Rov and describe their own particular situation.
As a general rule birth control pills will always be preferable to condoms which are (to my knowledge) never permitted.
As a general rule the bigger the chance that the woman can get pregnant the more likely the Rov is to allow that kind of birth control.
As a general rule money is not a good excuse to stop having kids.
As a general rule the main reason women can get a dispensation to use birth control aside from health reasons is because they think they will go insane if they have any more kids.
The problem here is wasting seed which is a big problem for Jews and a problem for Noahides too though not to the same extent.
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Thanks, I was just asking out of curiosity, because I haven't learnt about these things because om not ready to get married.
What if the women wants more ( ;D , its one of those wonders of life expecially after the first one), but the man doesn't, and why isn't financing an issue? Everything costs a lot of $ these days, he doesn't want to live on charity, and wants to send his children to the best Yeshiva's. (thats after the fact that he has at least 2 children (One male and one female) which can reproduce (G-d willing), which fullfils the Mitzva.
As a side note, (something I just remembered), why didn't the latest Lubavitch Rabbi have kids? Why didn't he just get another wife for himself?
Ari:
Good show, Lubab. Interesting questions. O0
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