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OdKahaneChai:
Dear Lubab,

For about the past three days, I've had the niggun to "Vayhi Bimei Achashverosh" stuck in my head, and I can't get it out.  What should I do?

newman:

--- Quote from: lubab on February 20, 2008, 04:46:47 PM ---

I have said this before, and it may be controversial, but I don't care.

Noahides (non-Jews) are allowed to have marital relations without marriage.
It may even be preferable to just move in with a girlfriend and specifically state that you are NOT married to avoid the very strict consequences of adultery (the death penalty).

We learn this from the story of Yehuda in the Bible who had the law of a Noahide and had relations without marriage. Moshiach actually was born (many generations later) from that union.

So Raul I think you are right here on not punishing that behavior.

As a side note, I don't think that the government should be regulating marriage at all. They can give civil benefits to couples in a civil manner, but should not get involved in who is married, and requiring marriage licenses etc. Ideally this should be handled by the ecclesiastical authorities as was done all over the world until our very recent history.


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Well said, Lubab.

I get sick and tired of gentiles inventing mitzvot (which is a crime, BTW).

Marriage is certainly a good idea just as going to college or getting regular exercise is, but they are NOT commandments.

Lubab:

--- Quote from: OdKahaneChai on February 20, 2008, 11:17:36 PM ---Dear Lubab,

For about the past three days, I've had the niggun to "Vayhi Bimei Achashverosh" stuck in my head, and I can't get it out.  What should I do?

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What's the problem? It's Adar!  :)

It should be gone in a month and a half.  ;)

P.S. If you want a serious answer...let me know. But I don't know if this is a serious question.

OdKahaneChai:

--- Quote from: lubab on February 21, 2008, 11:42:52 AM ---
--- Quote from: OdKahaneChai on February 20, 2008, 11:17:36 PM ---Dear Lubab,

For about the past three days, I've had the niggun to "Vayhi Bimei Achashverosh" stuck in my head, and I can't get it out.  What should I do?

--- End quote ---

What's the problem? It's Adar!  :)

It should be gone in a month and a half.  ;)

P.S. If you want a serious answer...let me know. But I don't know if this is a serious question.

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No, it was not a serious question. 

But it honestly is stuck in my head... ;)

For those who want to know what I'm talking about:

http://www.chabad.org/multimedia/media_cdo/aid/1518/jewish/Vayehi-Bimei-Achashveirosh.htm
http://www.chabad.org/multimedia/livingtorah_cdo/aid/263358/jewish/Vayehi-Bimei.htm

Raulmarrio2000:

--- Quote ---Noahides (non-Jews) are allowed to have marital relations without marriage.
It may even be preferable to just move in with a girlfriend and specifically state that you are NOT married to avoid the very strict consequences of adultery (the death penalty).
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But if someone has intimacy with his girlfriend, in case she happened to secretly involve in casual intimacy with another man, wouldn't they also commit the crime of adultery?

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