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wonderfulgoy:
He was more interested in white and Jewish women than in his trumpet.  I suspect they liked one of his 'trumpets' more than the other.   ::)



Miles Davis seducing Jeanne Moreau (1957)


The Prince of Darkness, as he became known, ranted so much about race and prejudice that some acquaintances believed he was the one with racial prejudice. (Although, as Troupe noted, Davis never balked at working with white musicians. And he was romantically involved with several white women.) He often performed with his back to his audience, and berated fans who dared approach him.

Famously fond of cool cars and hot women, Davis had an erratic personal life that included heroin and cocaine addiction, pimping and spousal abuse. "I actually left running for my life - more than once," his former wife, Frances Davis, recalled in a telephone interview. A former Broadway dancer, her own career faltered after she left the hit musical West Side Story because Davis told her, "A woman should be with her man." She now says any screen depiction must be truthful about both his artistry and his rage.

... Troupe has often described David as an "unreconstructed black man," unapologetic and proud.  "Miles did not want to smile.  He was not going to be Louis Armstrong," he says.  "As far as Miles being racist, the last woman he was with was Jewish."



Source: Page 7 of the Scotsman Critique, Saturday 16 December 2006

Scriabin:

--- Quote from: Get thee hence Satan on December 18, 2006, 07:57:10 AM ---He was more interested in white and Jewish women than in his trumpet.  I suspect they liked one of his 'trumpets' more than the other.   ::)



Miles Davis seducing Jeanne Moreau (1957)


The Prince of Darkness, as he became known, ranted so much about race and prejudice that some acquaintances believed he was the one with racial prejudice. (Although, as Troupe noted, Davis never balked at working with white musicians. And he was romantically involved with several white women.) He often performed with his back to his audience, and berated fans who dared approach him.

Famously fond of cool cars and hot women, Davis had an erratic personal life that included heroin and cocaine addiction, pimping and spousal abuse. "I actually left running for my life - more than once," his former wife, Frances Davis, recalled in a telephone interview. A former Broadway dancer, her own career faltered after she left the hit musical West Side Story because Davis told her, "A woman should be with her man." She now says any screen depiction must be truthful about both his artistry and his rage.

... Troupe has often described David as an "unreconstructed black man," unapologetic and proud.  "Miles did not want to smile.  He was not going to be Louis Armstrong," he says.  "As far as Miles being racist, the last woman he was with was Jewish."



Source: Page 7 of the Scotsman Critique, Saturday 16 December 2006

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He was a white-hater.  Now all the self-hating whites and Jews think he is greater than Beethoven and Bach.

genteelgentile:
He did calm down with the racial stuff somewhat after the mid 60's, to be fair.  But there were times he was a grade-A bunghole!  I personally like Miles Davis's music.  It's [censored]-licious!!!!

MassuhDGoodName:
Miles Davis --  American Original

Most artistic genius is accompanied by what I personally describe (for lack of a better description) as a persona which is "power-packed"; that is to say, the artist is an artist precisely because of an "overload" of personality and sensitivity (more often than not with accompanying bouts of clinical depression).

His personal interviews were always most remarkable for their total unadulterated honesty.
I remember him once being asked about what it was like as a young black musician struggling to survive and "living the blues" as his prerequisite to making his mark in the world of music.  He replied with some degree of ridicule directed at his female talk show host; stating flatly that he never once suffered a day in his life; that early on he was a professional pimp when not on stage or rehearsing, and that he always made a very good living.
Another time, while being interviewed about his numerous drummers throughout his career, he said that by watching a player walk into a room he knew immediately whether or not the player in question was a true musician and artist; stating that the body language which emanated "balance" was the revealing trait; poseurs and other "show business types" he knew by their lack of self-contained "balance" which they radiated.

"The Holy One, in His Infinite Wisdom, confoundeth even Himself!"

Scriabin:

--- Quote from: MassuhDGoodName on December 18, 2006, 10:40:04 PM ---Miles Davis --  American Original

Most artistic genius is accompanied by what I personally describe (for lack of a better description) as a persona which is "power-packed"; that is to say, the artist is an artist precisely because of an "overload" of personality and sensitivity (more often than not with accompanying bouts of clinical depression).

His personal interviews were always most remarkable for their total unadulterated honesty.
I remember him once being asked about what it was like as a young black musician struggling to survive and "living the blues" as his prerequisite to making his mark in the world of music.  He replied with some degree of ridicule directed at his female talk show host; stating flatly that he never once suffered a day in his life; that early on he was a professional pimp when not on stage or rehearsing, and that he always made a very good living.
Another time, while being interviewed about his numerous drummers throughout his career, he said that by watching a player walk into a room he knew immediately whether or not the player in question was a true musician and artist; stating that the body language which emanated "balance" was the revealing trait; poseurs and other "show business types" he knew by their lack of self-contained "balance" which they radiated.

"The Holy One, in His Infinite Wisdom, confoundeth even Himself!"

--- End quote ---

I also like his music.  I think he was very talented, his sound is utterly recognizable. 

For my taste, there are two things about Miles that I don't agree with artisticly.

1)  He was obsessed with being 'cool'.  What is 'coolness' but an emotional IMBALANCE?  A real artist expresses the totality of human emotion...and I'm sorry to say, that cannot be accomplished by a person obsessed with emotional numbness.

2)  There is so much truly great music that I have little time for entertainment.

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