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Am I going to go to hell?
Shlomo:
Quit dogging on rebel_conservative for not believing in hell or the trinity. I don't believe in those either.
We've got worse enemies than each other.
yephora:
Enemies? We're discussing ideas.
Rhuan:
--- Quote from: jeffguy on September 08, 2006, 07:01:35 PM ---Quit dogging on rebel_conservative for not believing in hell or the trinity. I don't believe in those either.
We've got worse enemies than each other.
--- End quote ---
The thing is, you don't say you're a christian.
wonderfulgoy:
I should have made it clear that the conception of hell that I referred to was permanent soul-destruction, destruction of consciousness for all time after death. I don't believe in the concept of 'final judgement' or resurrection to burn in Hell, these are not Biblical concepts. Hell is simply not being with G-d; which is why we often talk of 'Hell on Earth', which sometimes we are all afflicted with.
The Koran draws heavily on the unBiblical notion of 'Hell' (as anything other than not being with G-d) in threatening people to be Muslim 'or else'. It is just a form of spiritual extortion, so it is no wonder this is the theme the Koran dwells on and returns to constantly.
yephora:
Get thee hence Satan wrote: I don't believe in the concept of 'final judgement' or resurrection to burn in Hell, these are not Biblical concepts.
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Oh really? Better get thee to a Bible then:
Jesus said: “And these shall go away unto everlasting punishment, but the righteous into everlasting life” (Matthew 25:46).
Jesus said: “Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more they can do. But I will warn you whom ye shall fear: Fear Him, who, after He hath killed, hath authority to cast into gehenna; yea, I say unto you, Fear Him” (Luke 12:4-5).
“. . . and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: and the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest day and night . . . “ (Revelation 14:10-11).
“They shall be tormented day and night forever and ever . . . and if any was not found written in the Book of Life, he was cast into the lake of fire” (Revelation 20:10,15).
[all emphases added]
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