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Lubab:
You'd have to ask them  :D.

Adam didn't eat meat because they weren't good at elevating the crass physical world. When the flood purified the world we became a bit better at that so we were allowed to eat meat. When Moshiach comes we'll be masters at that!

Lubab:

--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on February 27, 2008, 02:33:32 PM ---
--- Quote from: lubab on February 27, 2008, 02:32:07 PM ---You'd have to ask them  :D.

Adam didn't eat meat because they weren't good at elevating the crass physical world. When the flood purified the world we became a bit better at that so we were allowed to eat meat. When Moshiach comes we'll be masters at that!
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Did anyone eat meat before Noah without being allowed to?



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Good question. I don't know. They did most every other sin in the book so I imagine they did that too but I really don't know for sure.

Tzvi Ben Roshel1:

--- Quote from: lubab on February 27, 2008, 02:32:07 PM ---You'd have to ask them  :D.

Adam didn't eat meat because they weren't good at elevating the crass physical world. When the flood purified the world we became a bit better at that so we were allowed to eat meat. When Moshiach comes we'll be masters at that!



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Actually one of the reasons of why they didn't eat and didn't need to eat meat was because before the flood man was much stronger and also acquired nutrients, etc. from the vegetables that were on a much higher level then they are today. The flood impacted the world greatly and man became weaker so he was allowed to eat meat. Besides that the quality of food and nature also decreases generation by generation (just ask you grandparents about the chickens they used to eat).
  If you want to look at eating meat from that perspective then most of us wouldn't be able to eat meat (unless Shabbat), because we are not in that level where we have the proper Kavanot of elevating the food (nefeshot) that we eat. I think that is also the opinion of some, even in the Gemarrah, that an ignorant cant eat meat.

Dr. Dan:

--- Quote from: lubab on February 27, 2008, 01:33:21 PM ---
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--- Quote from: Chaim Ben Shimon on February 27, 2008, 09:42:00 AM ---
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on February 27, 2008, 03:20:14 AM ---
--- Quote from: Chaim Ben Shimon on February 27, 2008, 03:03:56 AM ---Well for that we could use shots to put an animal to sleep.. Just thought of starting this topic to hear your guys opinions...
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That's not allowed in kosher slaughter.



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I have a feeling at the end of days it will be revealed how to slaughter Giraffe, just as i heard the word pig-hazar means return and that a pig will be kosher animal. So i m guessing one day we will all be eating Shawarma and Kabob with a new kind of meats   

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IN the end of days we won't be eating meat.

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Why not? We will be eating lots of meat with all our Temple sacrifices!

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isn't it written that the Lion (or wolf) will lie with the lamb?  Doesn't that mean that carnivores will become Herbavores?  Therefore, humans would have no need to eat meat.

Tzvi Ben Roshel1:

--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on February 27, 2008, 09:23:19 PM ---
--- Quote from: lubab on February 27, 2008, 01:33:21 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on February 27, 2008, 12:59:54 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chaim Ben Shimon on February 27, 2008, 09:42:00 AM ---
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on February 27, 2008, 03:20:14 AM ---
--- Quote from: Chaim Ben Shimon on February 27, 2008, 03:03:56 AM ---Well for that we could use shots to put an animal to sleep.. Just thought of starting this topic to hear your guys opinions...
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That's not allowed in kosher slaughter.



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I have a feeling at the end of days it will be revealed how to slaughter Giraffe, just as i heard the word pig-hazar means return and that a pig will be kosher animal. So i m guessing one day we will all be eating Shawarma and Kabob with a new kind of meats   

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IN the end of days we won't be eating meat.

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Why not? We will be eating lots of meat with all our Temple sacrifices!

--- End quote ---

isn't it written that the Lion (or wolf) will lie with the lamb?  Doesn't that mean that carnivores will become Herbavores?  Therefore, humans would have no need to eat meat.

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 For sure if their are Temple sacrifices their has to be the consumption of Meat. Maybe after the time of Moshiah, in the World to Come, it will be different. But the World to Come is a complete complex thing thats wayy after Moshiah comes. When we say Moshiah the state we will be will be Adam before he sinned, then afterwards we will reach a level to what Adam was supposed to accomplish (going up in levels).

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