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--- Quote from: Sarah on March 07, 2008, 03:20:13 PM ---q_q_ it wasn't a whole book on powerful Jewish lobbies. There was one line, which said the Jewish Lobbies in New York strengthed the link between the U.S and Israel.

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I understand.. I am just wondering what the book is (ISBN) because comments like "the power of the jewish lobby group(s)" tend to come from people that are very anti-semitic, and against israel and jews..

Just like when people call Melanie Phillips a right wing loonie, we know they are extreme left, enemies of israel and the jewish people.   Since melanie phillips is quite moderate herself, in her views - just defending israel`s right to respond to terrorist attacks.. If they think she is an "extremist", then it shows where they stand.

Consider it a rule of thumb

And that`s why I am interested in what book it was.

The last time I heard about an article complaining about a "powerful jewish lobby", was a leftist magazine called "the new statesman"

If you search google images for  New Statesman Kosher conspiracy,
you get this picture
http://hurryupharry.bloghouse.net/archives/Statesman.jpg
That was the front page of a popular leftist magazine complaining about the jewish lobby. You see the anti-semitism.. 
You find similar thing in old BNP literature..
And nazi propaganda.
And of course anti-semitic arab cartoons, such as those in egypt
e.g. http://www.adl.org/Anti_semitism/arab/cartoon_arab_press_080702.asp
You see many about jews controlling America..


For many underlying reasons, it turns out that there is a rule of thumb, that sources that talk of a powerful jewish lobby, are very anti-semitic. Think jews control america. Resent it. e.t..c

Ultra Requete:
There is an AIPAC around Capitol, but also NRA, Workers's Unions lobies are present too becouse all decision making in modern "democracies" are... let say influenced by lobbying ;); Not to mention the powerfull Saudi lobby or muslim umbrella groups like CAIR. Muslimes intead of envyng the power of American Jewish comunity coming from  education and social coherence and activism shuld emulate them and do something for their parent countries not for the couse of global Jihadism.   

Ex Muslim 4 Israel:
Shalom back. Thanks a lot for all of the people who responded to this thread. I'm really very happy to be in here and everyday I'm more asserted that i'm on the right track.Eswpecially after the terrorist attack in Jerusalem that shows once again that muslim's war on israel is a religious one, It's not by any means fight for freedom from "occupation", It's just a war raged by muslims against The jews, christians, and all non muslims which started long ago. Such incidents give me another assertion that leaving islam is the only way to be a human, cos as a muslim, you are nothing but a creature full of hatred, terrorism, and despair.

2honest:
Hi Ex Muslim 4 Israel!

Why don't you start an Ask Ex Muslim 4 Israel thread?

My question would be:

What is the main weakness of the average muslim? How can we free them from the islamic ideology?

Ex Muslim 4 Israel:
Shalom honest. yeah It'll be a great idea. In which subforum shall I open this thread? Anyway, in quick response to your question: I say "Fear". They live in constant fear of a god (allah) who is a demonized terroristic entity who can't wait to torture any non -practising muslims. they have surrenderred their mind to this god who have made them complete mindless creatures. Once such fear is taken from their hearts (i'm not asking for non-fear or respect to God. i know jews love and fear their G_d), but Muslims have been passive enough to even give up their brains in fear of such Satanic god!

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