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For every Jew-a .22!

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newman:
OK, I know pistol permits are tough to get in NYC and elsewhere. That doesn't mean you can't defend yourself or get good, cheap firearms training. 'Non-assault' sporting rifles are not as hard to legally obtain. But where to start?

Meet America's favourite little 'do-everything' gun. The Ruger 10/22 on sale NEW for around $220-$250.


This is a ten-shot semi-automatic carbine that is innocent-looking and legal in every US duristiction (including NYC). Weighing around 5.25 lbs and being only 3 feet long, it can be operated effectively by EVERYBODY in the family from pre-teen children to the frail & elderly. THERE IS NO RECOIL, either!

These ultra-reliable, well-made rifles fire the ubiquitous .22LR ammunition that can be bought in 500 round 'bricks' for around $15-$20! This means each shot is around $0.04 each as opposed to $0.20-$1.00 per shot for centerfire rifle & pistol ammunition. That means you can afford to train/shoot LOTS & LOTS.

You can also fire .22 LR rifles at indoor pistol ranges, too (a big consideration in NYC). The lack of excessive penetration means means you won't shoot the guy next door if you shoot an intruder in your apartment.

Don't under estimate the humble .22 either. Whilst not an ideal choice for combat/defense, the .22LR has been used by MOSSAD to kill more terrorists than any other type of ammunition (and that's using even lower velocity sub-sonic rounds fired from small Beretta pistols)! The IDF also use a special version of this very rifle for silent killing and/or non-lethal leg shots on rock throwers.


There's more, too. You can modify to 10/22 to opitomise it for defense & training. The M-16 type sights below enable you to familiarise yourself with military battle sights prior to US or Israeli military service.... all at a cheap price.



Let me say that a .22 is not exactly the first choice for serious home defense. However, the .22 you can shoot and operate well is a better choice than the more powerfull weapon you cannot. This little rifle is a great place to start. When you become really proficient, move up to a more powerfull weapon if you're so inclined. Either way, you'll have a means to get lots & lots of shooting practice for very little $ PLUS you'll give the next burgler, rapist or pogromist something to think about!

Ithaca-37:
As you note, the .22 is a thin round compared to other rifle/ pistol/ shotgun options.  And you're correct that the .22 is affordable to shoot.  Allow me to note suggest something that gives even a .22 some impact:  ammunition like 'Stinger' by CCI.  The Stinger is a slightly smaller piece of hollowpoint lead atop a slightly longer shell case, given the bullet more impact.

See this for yourself, as I have:  Get plastic gallon milk jugs and fill with water.  Use these for targets, with some jugs shot with standard .22s and others with Stingers.  You'll observe a remarkable difference in impact on the target.

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newman:
Those little 'mini-magnums' as they're sometimes called add great versatility to the already handy .22. Sub-sonics enable quiet practice and CB Caps enable practice in your own basement.

The 10/22 will cycle most rounds from the sub-sonic right up to the stingers & vipers. There are only one or two types factory guns have had dramas with and a little action pollish down at the gunsmith's will fix that.

White Israelite:
For the price i'm paying on .223 ammo, I could buy about 11,000 rounds of .22lr, maybe a good investment.

newman:

--- Quote from: Cohen on March 13, 2008, 08:54:38 AM ---For the price i'm paying on .223 ammo, I could buy about 11,000 rounds of .22lr, maybe a good investment.

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Even at $20/brick (500) for good subsonic stuff, it's a bargain. Subsonic solids will still penetrate well out to 100 yards and they're quiet as.......

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