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I am very confused about Jewish Dating!!!

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Tina Greco - Melbourne:

--- Quote from: Chaim Ben Shimon on March 06, 2008, 02:02:37 AM ---Part A: I understand that the whole point is just to get married but my question is if you see a girl in your class and you found out that she is Jewish why can't you approach her and for the sake of even become more Jewish your self. Its very hard to become religious, why can't you have a person opposite sex be supporting you and that way you both might become more religious and there is a chance a big I would say that you could marry that person.
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I have a question how can being friends and talking to girls make you more Jewish. Talking to girls developing friendships is perfectly ok and natural.



--- Quote ---Part B: question is How does one supposed to get married through dating if he never had experience even talking to a girl?
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Bottom line you shouldn't get married if thats the case. You need to be able to relate to girls, only way is by interacting with them. Know what is accepted by them is a long process that you must experience, not very thing can be given to you via a book.


--- Quote ---Part C: If it would be a right thing to do at all, what would be the right approach to that type of girl who is religious herself? Anyway why can't one become friends with a girl I am not even talking about g/f just friends. I am completely lost can anyone explain it to me please I wanna hear your opinions, thanks. 

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You can use a proxy, that is acceptable to be introduced to a girl. And if you feel more comfortable then have your friendship via a proxy. But you should find that is not needed once you have develop the social skills for the interaction.

Basically thats what I think is lacking just the correct social skills.

Tzvi Ben Roshel1:
You should limit closed interactions with girls. If your sitting in a group okay, or if you are trying to find a Shidduh (going out on a date), then you have to talk and try to get to know each other to see if she's for you. But their isn't really "just a friendship" between guys and girls. Dont let the yetzer fool you and say its just talking, + the Rabbis in Pirki Avot say that anyone who talks excessivly with a female will inherit Gehinnom, and that was talking about one's wife, how much more soo someone who isn't your wife.

jdl4ever:
Tzvi is presenting the Haredi opinion, that you can't even speak to a girl unless you are dating her.  I think it's far too an extreme opinion without any Torah basis.  Some of these people actually cross the street if a woman is walking on the same side as they are.   It's like they're afraid of women :D

Tzvi Ben Roshel1:

--- Quote from: jdl4ever on March 09, 2008, 12:53:17 AM ---Tzvi is presenting the Haredi opinion, that you can't even speak to a girl unless you are dating her.  I think it's far too an extreme opinion without any Torah basis.  Some of these people actually cross the street if a woman is walking on the same side as they are.   It's like they're afraid of women :D

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Its not the Haredi opinion as you claim. I can look up Shulhan Aruch and other Halacha (which is much strickter belive me), also why do you have to resort to making fun of people who are stricter then us, if you cant be on their level then at least dont make fun of them.
 And if someone does do that its not because their afraid of women its because they are afraid of G-d and of sinning, we should only at least strive to be on their level and not even more soo resort to making fun. I remember some saying where is it more dangerous to walk behind a lion then a women.

Tina Greco - Melbourne:
Women are not to be feared. Just respected.

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