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Offline Wayne Jude

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Serious question
« on: April 12, 2008, 10:04:02 PM »
How would a married man with children in Israel or anywhere know for sure when the sabbath is over?I have extreme OCD,,, for real,,, so keep that in mind.Monk is a funny show but the real OCD is like living with hell breathing down your neck every minute!
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Re: Serious question
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2008, 10:09:25 PM »
I think it goes according to sunset. Our torah learned members could certainly tell you. Their is deff a set way to know it.
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Re: Serious question
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2008, 10:13:33 PM »
Yes ,DWI, I know but not to sin exactly when!No disrespect Bro!
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Re: Serious question
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2008, 10:19:23 PM »
To not sin we must be right

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Re: Serious question
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2008, 10:21:50 PM »
I think once it's dark, it is no longer a sin. Why don't you ask Chaim in ask JTF? I am sure he will know more than me.
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Re: Serious question
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2008, 10:25:17 PM »
Get a Jewish calender, all the times (local times) are available.
 One can also check online and write their area code where it is all recorded. Their are also 2 times according to 2 opinions, 1 is earlier and the other is later by about 30 minutes (Rabbeinu Tam)- Many included my Shul, use both, the first to when the night prayers start and the next to where one can turn on lights, etc.
The Academy of Elijah taught, whoever studies the laws (of the Torah) every day, (he) is guaranteed to have a share in the World to Come.

‏119:139 צִמְּתַתְנִי קִנְאָתִי כִּישָׁכְחוּ דְבָרֶיךָ צָרָי
My zeal incenses me, for my adversaries have forgotten Your words.
‏119:141 צָעִיר אָנֹכִי וְנִבְזֶה פִּקֻּדֶיךָ, לֹא שָׁכָחְתִּי.
 I am young and despised; I have not forgotten Your precepts.

" A fool does not realize, and an unwise person does not understand this (i.e. the following:) When the wicked bloom like grass, and the evildoers blossom (i.e. when they seem extremly successful), it is to destroy them forever (i.e. they are rewarded for their few good deeds in this World, and they will have no portion in the World to Come!)

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Re: Serious question
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2008, 10:26:27 PM »
Wait what do you mean by sin not? You dont keep Shabb-t dont you?
The Academy of Elijah taught, whoever studies the laws (of the Torah) every day, (he) is guaranteed to have a share in the World to Come.

‏119:139 צִמְּתַתְנִי קִנְאָתִי כִּישָׁכְחוּ דְבָרֶיךָ צָרָי
My zeal incenses me, for my adversaries have forgotten Your words.
‏119:141 צָעִיר אָנֹכִי וְנִבְזֶה פִּקֻּדֶיךָ, לֹא שָׁכָחְתִּי.
 I am young and despised; I have not forgotten Your precepts.

" A fool does not realize, and an unwise person does not understand this (i.e. the following:) When the wicked bloom like grass, and the evildoers blossom (i.e. when they seem extremly successful), it is to destroy them forever (i.e. they are rewarded for their few good deeds in this World, and they will have no portion in the World to Come!)

Please visit: (The Greatest lectures on Earth).
http://torahanytime.com/
http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Yossi_Mizrachi/
http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Zecharia_Wallerstein/

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Re: Serious question
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2008, 10:33:29 PM »
Because of my Jewish heritage I respect it by no real work.That is personal for me that I share with you all!But as most know Im a born again Christian.I dont try to convert. Just curious
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Re: Serious question
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2008, 10:56:20 PM »
One of the mailing lists I am on sent me a calendar. O0

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Re: Serious question
« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2008, 11:05:47 PM »
There are online calendars you can consult.  But Jews also look to see at least two stars showing in the night sky, I believe. 

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Re: Serious question
« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2008, 11:07:12 PM »
But where does sin begin.I ,as you all know would not try to start trouble.I ask this from the heart,where does the Sabbath end exactally?Again I have OCD bad, but It does make sense as a question!
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Re: Serious question
« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2008, 11:09:30 PM »
Lisa, two stars?Cool that is getting what im getting  at!
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Re: Serious question
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2008, 11:13:22 PM »
Lisa, that is what I was asking can anyone else confirm this?
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Re: Serious question
« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2008, 12:04:27 AM »
its 3 stars, but you wont allways necessarily see them (cloudy days), or it could be stars, but not certain ones, the best thing is the calender, and no one can write exactly what time, because it changes every week. Just make a google search for Jewish calender, and one can get the times Shabb-t comes in and out, locally.
The Academy of Elijah taught, whoever studies the laws (of the Torah) every day, (he) is guaranteed to have a share in the World to Come.

‏119:139 צִמְּתַתְנִי קִנְאָתִי כִּישָׁכְחוּ דְבָרֶיךָ צָרָי
My zeal incenses me, for my adversaries have forgotten Your words.
‏119:141 צָעִיר אָנֹכִי וְנִבְזֶה פִּקֻּדֶיךָ, לֹא שָׁכָחְתִּי.
 I am young and despised; I have not forgotten Your precepts.

" A fool does not realize, and an unwise person does not understand this (i.e. the following:) When the wicked bloom like grass, and the evildoers blossom (i.e. when they seem extremly successful), it is to destroy them forever (i.e. they are rewarded for their few good deeds in this World, and they will have no portion in the World to Come!)

Please visit: (The Greatest lectures on Earth).
http://torahanytime.com/
http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Yossi_Mizrachi/
http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Zecharia_Wallerstein/

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Re: Serious question
« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2008, 12:13:36 AM »
gOOD AWNSERSFRIENDS
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Re: Serious question
« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2008, 12:26:07 AM »
Thanks and I really meant this question! Can others concur?

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« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2008, 12:28:07 AM »
One of the mailing lists I am on sent me a calendar. O0

Very good O0

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Re: Serious question
« Reply #17 on: April 13, 2008, 12:29:36 AM »
thanks friends!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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