Poll

Would you convert to islam?

Hell no, I would rather die.
8 (44.4%)
yes it's better to live.
0 (0%)
I don't know.
2 (11.1%)
Maybe.
0 (0%)
I'll pretend to convert.
5 (27.8%)
No.
3 (16.7%)

Total Members Voted: 0

« previous next »
Pages: [1]   Go Down

Author Topic: converting to islam?  (Read 2085 times)

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline Yonathan Ben Yakov

  • Full JTFer
  • ***
  • Posts: 104
converting to islam?
« on: April 07, 2008, 12:07:46 AM »
i hope no one takes this personal. its just a question, if a muslim took you hostage and said "will kill you if you don't convert" would you
Logged
it's better to have a Jewish State, which is hated by the whole world, than an Auschwitz loved by it.”

Offline Еврей

  • Senior JTFer
  • ****
  • Posts: 451
Re: converting to islam?
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2008, 12:10:26 AM »
Can we pretend to convert,
Then just go back to being whatever we want?
Logged
"My name is Daniel Pearl. I am a Jewish American"
"My family follows Judaism. We've made numerous family visits to Israel."
~Daniel Pearl

"We are a small nation, but strong."
~Moshe Dayan

"First of all, Arafat is wrong. Jerusalem is Israel's capital, will never be divided, and will remain the capital of the State of Israel, the capital of the Jewish people, for ever and ever. "
~Benjamin Netanyahu

ביחד נשרוד, לחוד ניפול
Together we survive, apart we fall
~Subliminal

Offline Еврей

  • Senior JTFer
  • ****
  • Posts: 451
Re: converting to islam?
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2008, 12:13:57 AM »
Quote from: Yohonathan Ben Yakov on April 07, 2008, 12:12:14 AM
Quote from: SR Yehudi on April 07, 2008, 12:10:26 AM
Can we pretend to convert,
Then just go back to being whatever we want?

yeah sure O0

Sounds good to me!
Logged
"My name is Daniel Pearl. I am a Jewish American"
"My family follows Judaism. We've made numerous family visits to Israel."
~Daniel Pearl

"We are a small nation, but strong."
~Moshe Dayan

"First of all, Arafat is wrong. Jerusalem is Israel's capital, will never be divided, and will remain the capital of the State of Israel, the capital of the Jewish people, for ever and ever. "
~Benjamin Netanyahu

ביחד נשרוד, לחוד ניפול
Together we survive, apart we fall
~Subliminal

Offline Dan

  • Moderator
  • Ultimate JTFer
  • *
  • Posts: 4308
Re: converting to islam?
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2008, 01:08:11 AM »
Hell No!
  I'll fight till the end... are we giving up already?!
Logged

Offline Еврей

  • Senior JTFer
  • ****
  • Posts: 451
Re: converting to islam?
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2008, 01:13:27 AM »
No, we are absolutely not giving up!
However, hypothetically if you were being held hostage what would you do?
Logged
"My name is Daniel Pearl. I am a Jewish American"
"My family follows Judaism. We've made numerous family visits to Israel."
~Daniel Pearl

"We are a small nation, but strong."
~Moshe Dayan

"First of all, Arafat is wrong. Jerusalem is Israel's capital, will never be divided, and will remain the capital of the State of Israel, the capital of the Jewish people, for ever and ever. "
~Benjamin Netanyahu

ביחד נשרוד, לחוד ניפול
Together we survive, apart we fall
~Subliminal

Offline JTFFan

  • Ultimate JTFer
  • *******
  • Posts: 3964
Re: converting to islam?
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2008, 01:35:32 AM »
Quote from: SR Yehudi on April 07, 2008, 01:13:27 AM
No, we are absolutely not giving up!
However, hypothetically if you were being held hostage what would you do?

I'd rather die righteously
Logged

Offline Dan

  • Moderator
  • Ultimate JTFer
  • *
  • Posts: 4308
Re: converting to islam?
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2008, 01:48:02 AM »
Quote from: SR Yehudi on April 07, 2008, 01:13:27 AM
No, we are absolutely not giving up!
However, hypothetically if you were being held hostage what would you do?
Likewise I'd probably try to fight my way out... G-d knows!
Logged

Offline White Israelite

  • Ultimate JTFer
  • *******
  • Posts: 4535
Re: converting to islam?
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2008, 02:05:29 AM »
No wouldn't convert under any circumstances, even if i'm stuck with a blade to my throat, I will fight back even if it requires me biting the nose off the damn muslim and involves my death.
Logged

Offline JTFFan

  • Ultimate JTFer
  • *******
  • Posts: 3964
Re: converting to islam?
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2008, 02:39:40 AM »
Quote from: ???? ??? on April 07, 2008, 02:05:29 AM
No wouldn't convert under any circumstances, even if i'm stuck with a blade to my throat, I will fight back even if it requires me biting the nose off the damn muslim and involves my death.

Well said O0
Logged

Offline syyuge

  • Silver Star JTF Member
  • ********
  • Posts: 7684
Re: converting to islam?
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2008, 06:18:27 AM »
Muslam is totally false, it can exist only in an anti-world. So no human being can be converted in to Muslam, whether by force or by agreement or by pretension or by default.

With Regards... :)     
Logged
There are thunders and sparks in the skies, because Faraday invented the electricity.

Offline mord

  • Global Moderator
  • Platinum JTF Member
  • *
  • Posts: 25853
Re: converting to islam?
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2008, 06:25:30 AM »
Look at all the people  moslems who live in moslem countries who convert to Christianity ,they could keep it quiet but no they let moslems know under sure threat of death. Can we people who live in free countries be cowards
Logged
Thy destroyers and they that make thee waste shall go forth of thee.  Isaiah 49:17

 
Shot at 2010-01-03

Offline Dr. Dan

  • Forum Administrator
  • Gold Star JTF Member
  • *
  • Posts: 12593
Re: converting to islam?
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2008, 09:18:25 AM »
I would rather live and therefore pretend convert..if it meant my life if i got caught, then i would take it.  The longer I live, the longer I can practice the same takkiya as a fake Muslim to other Muslims to turn against their own with Gd's help.
Logged
If someone says something bad about you, say something nice about them. That way, both of you would be lying.

In your heart you know WE are right and in your guts you know THEY are nuts!

"Science without religion is lame; Religion without science is blind."  - Albert Einstein

Offline Ultra Requete

  • Master JTFer
  • ******
  • Posts: 2383
  • United We Stand, Dived We'll Fall.
Re: converting to islam?
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2008, 09:37:02 AM »
Is this true that Judaism tells you to die before comitting idolatry? For me isslam is idolatry and as comitted Christian I won't reject HIM as my Mesiash before the people becouse in this case he'll reject me before HIS FATHER. And besides muslims are brainwashed and spiritualy influenced you won't have guarantee that you will esacape from it with ease and without the (psichic) scrathes. If you knew western convert to islam they act like mesmerised or worse. converting to moon god religion is not like choosing the the different kind of church or yeshiva. 
Logged
Jeremiah 8:11-17

11 They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. Peace, peace, they say, when there is no peace.

12 Are they ashamed of their loathsome conduct? No, they have no shame at all; they do not even know how to blush. So they will fall among the fallen; they will be brought down when they are punished, says the LORD.

13 'I will take away their harvest, declares the LORD. There will be no grapes on the vine. There will be no figs on the tree, and their leaves will wither. What I have given them will be taken from them.'

14 Why are we sitting here? Gather together! Let us flee to the fortified cities and perish there! For the LORD our God has doomed us to perish and given us poisoned water to drink, because we have sinned against him.

15 We hoped for peace but no good has come, for a time of healing but there was only terror.

16 The snorting of the enemy's horses is heard from Dan; at the neighing of their stallions the whole land trembles. They have come to devour the land and everything in it, the city and all who live there.

17 See, I will send venomous snakes among you, vipers that cannot be charmed, and they will bite you, declares the LORD.

Love your Enemy
And Heap Burning Coals on his Head!!!
http://net-burst.net/revenge/love_and_wrath_of_God.htm

Offline mord

  • Global Moderator
  • Platinum JTF Member
  • *
  • Posts: 25853
Re: converting to islam?
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2008, 09:52:24 AM »
Quote from: Ultra Requete on April 07, 2008, 09:37:02 AM
Is this true that Judaism tells you to die before comitting idolatry? For me isslam is idolatry and as comitted Christian I won't reject HIM as my Mesiash before the people becouse in this case he'll reject me before HIS FATHER. And besides muslims are brainwashed and spiritualy influenced you won't have guarantee that you will esacape from it with ease and without the (psichic) scrathes. If you knew western convert to islam they act like mesmerised or worse. converting to moon G-d religion is not like choosing the the different kind of church or yeshiva. 
This is correct
Logged
Thy destroyers and they that make thee waste shall go forth of thee.  Isaiah 49:17

 
Shot at 2010-01-03

Offline MassuhDGoodName

  • Ultimate JTFer
  • *******
  • Posts: 4542
Re: converting to islam?
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2008, 09:53:39 AM »
Judaism tells you to die before comitting idolatry.
Logged

Offline ASHISH

  • Pro JTFer
  • *****
  • Posts: 711
Re: converting to islam?
« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2008, 10:20:12 AM »
Hell no, I would rather die.End of discussion for me 8)
Logged
Pages: [1]   Go Up
« previous next »