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Offline Tina Greco - Melbourne

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Re: Boer War descendants to march in Anzac parade
« Reply #50 on: April 11, 2008, 08:22:01 AM »
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12,000 ANZAC's with mighty b^lls of steel   


Less than 50,000 BOERS fighting the worlds largest and powerfull army of 400,000+, and still winning! Now that's what I call MEN!

Boere you claim Australia Brought down the Boer's and SA so which is it?

So 12,000 Aussies and Kiwis kicked 50,000 Boer's?

You can't have it both ways mate.



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Re: Boer War descendants to march in Anzac parade
« Reply #51 on: April 11, 2008, 08:23:29 AM »
are you talking about the few, whom voted for the anc?


No.

I'm talking about the majority who voted to end apartheid, bringing in one vote-one value thus enabling the ANC to take power. Forget about that, did you?
Ending Apartheid was the worst thing SA ever did. It killed any hope left in the country.
That's my point. But THEY DID IT. THEY DID IT!!!!!

Now one is blaming US for their problems! >:(


12,000 ANZAC's with mighty b^lls of steel  :::D :::D

That generation never questioned church or crown. When Britain went to war, every man-Jack jumped at the chance to have the privilage of getting his brains blown out for the empire. :(

That generation of men were great men, and will be for ever honored, the ANZAC spirit will never die!

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Re: Boer War descendants to march in Anzac parade
« Reply #52 on: April 11, 2008, 08:28:58 AM »
are you talking about the few, whom voted for the anc?


No.

I'm talking about the majority who voted to end apartheid, bringing in one vote-one value thus enabling the ANC to take power. Forget about that, did you?
Ending Apartheid was the worst thing SA ever did. It killed any hope left in the country.
That's my point. But THEY DID IT. THEY DID IT!!!!!

Now one is blaming US for their problems! >:(


12,000 ANZAC's with mighty b^lls of steel  :::D :::D

That generation never questioned church or crown. When Britain went to war, every man-Jack jumped at the chance to have the privilage of getting his brains blown out for the empire. :(

That generation of men were great men, and will be for ever honored, the ANZAC spirit will never die!
My great grandfather fought in the Boer war (as a Brit, not an aussie) in the Gloucester Regiment. When WW1 started he was on his way to vollunteer even though he was near 40 years of age. It was only his wife screaming the house down about their four children not surviving on 3 shillings a day soldiers' pay that stopped him.

When WW2 started and his teenage sons ALL signed up and required parental consent, he couldn't sign the papers quick enough and cried tears of pride & joy at his sons doing their bit for king & empire!

Different generation in those days.

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Re: Boer War descendants to march in Anzac parade
« Reply #53 on: April 11, 2008, 08:49:22 AM »
are you talking about the few, whom voted for the anc?


No.

I'm talking about the majority who voted to end apartheid, bringing in one vote-one value thus enabling the ANC to take power. Forget about that, did you?
Ending Apartheid was the worst thing SA ever did. It killed any hope left in the country.
That's my point. But THEY DID IT. THEY DID IT!!!!!

Now one is blaming US for their problems! >:(


12,000 ANZAC's with mighty b^lls of steel  :::D :::D

That generation never questioned church or crown. When Britain went to war, every man-Jack jumped at the chance to have the privilage of getting his brains blown out for the empire. :(

That generation of men were great men, and will be for ever honored, the ANZAC spirit will never die!
My great grandfather fought in the Boer war (as a Brit, not an aussie) in the Gloucester Regiment. When WW1 started he was on his way to vollunteer even though he was near 40 years of age. It was only his wife screaming the house down about their four children not surviving on 3 shillings a day soldiers' pay that stopped him.

When WW2 started and his teenage sons ALL signed up and required parental consent, he couldn't sign the papers quick enough and cried tears of pride & joy at his sons doing their bit for king & empire!

Different generation in those days.

Not wrong mate  O0

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Re: Boer War descendants to march in Anzac parade
« Reply #54 on: April 11, 2008, 08:55:20 AM »
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12,000 ANZAC's with mighty b^lls of steel   


Less than 50,000 BOERS fighting the worlds largest and powerfull army of 400,000+, and still winning! Now that's what I call MEN!

Boere you claim Australia Brought down the Boer's and SA so which is it?

So 12,000 Aussies and Kiwis kicked 50,000 Boer's?

You can't have it both ways mate.




nope, totally not what im saying.

Im saying the australians played a big part in fighting against the Righteous, and bringing in a communist anti-semitic government to SA. This fact is portrayed regularly on australian air waves on channels such as SBS and ABC.



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Re: Boer War descendants to march in Anzac parade
« Reply #55 on: April 11, 2008, 09:03:00 AM »
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12,000 ANZAC's with mighty b^lls of steel   


Less than 50,000 BOERS fighting the worlds largest and powerfull army of 400,000+, and still winning! Now that's what I call MEN!

Boere you claim Australia Brought down the Boer's and SA so which is it?

So 12,000 Aussies and Kiwis kicked 50,000 Boer's?

You can't have it both ways mate.




nope, totally not what im saying.

Im saying the australians played a big part in fighting against the Righteous, and bringing in a communist anti-semitic government to SA. This fact is portrayed regularly on australian air waves on channels such as SBS and ABC.



Cobblers'!

South African whites VOTED to end aparteid, remove themselves from power and give blacks the vote so THEY could install a "communist anti-semitic government to SA".

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1992: South Africa votes for change
White South Africans have backed an overwhelming mandate for political reforms to end apartheid and create a power-sharing multi-racial government.
In a landslide victory for change, the government swept the polls in all four provinces, and all but one of 15 referendum regions.

It won 68.6% of the vote in a record turn-out, which, in some districts exceeded 96%.
 
 
The extent of change was highlighted in the Kroonstad region of the Orange Free State, where five of the seven Parliamentary seats are held by the "no" campaigners in the conservative party.

Despite being one of the most conservative districts in the whole country there was a small yes majority for change.

Only Pietersburg in the Northern Transvaal, a rural right-wing stronghold where Dr Andries Treurnicht has his parliamentary constituency as head of the CP, returned a no vote.

Pretoria, the administrative capital which has symbolised Afrikanerdom, produced a 57% "yes", in the legislative capital, Cape Town, 85% voted "yes" and in the judicial capital of Bloemfontein 58.5%.

"Today we have closed the book on apartheid,'' Mr de Klerk said in Cape Town as he also celebrates his 56th birthday.

White electors have not only voted by a 2-1 majority to abolish apartheid but also to lose their own power.

Mr de Klerk said the result was a boost for the Convention for a Democratic South Africa, Codesa, but he could not commit himself to a timetable for installing a multi-racial government, which required further discussions

Dr Treurnicht pledged never to work on the Codesa board and that CP would not join the negotiating forum.

He said: "De Klerk has won his referendum. That is clear."

But he vowed there would be a return of apartheid in the country and he blamed media propaganda, foreign intervention and threats by businessmen against employees for the result.

Nelson Mandela, the president of the African National Congress who was jailed for 27 years because of his fight against black segregation, said he was ''very happy indeed''.

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Re: Boer War descendants to march in Anzac parade
« Reply #56 on: April 11, 2008, 09:42:49 AM »
nope, totally not what im saying.

Im saying the australians played a big part in fighting against the Righteous, and bringing in a communist anti-semitic government to SA. This fact is portrayed regularly on australian air waves on channels such as SBS and ABC.




Ok ok I see where we have the problem, first of all the Australian Broadcasting network, or Aunty thats is commonly called by some, is a very left wing Multi cultural station. Gone are the days when it reported the truth, let alone any credible facts.

They only use it plays in Australian society is that it keeps up with social issues. Rather than hard line news, or worth while doco's.

Australian TV is become very pityful indeed. Hence I have Foxtel.

SBS is the voice and vision of multicultural Australia.

They run programs that they get good money to air, including Porn.

Please don't watch that rubbish.

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Re: Boer War descendants to march in Anzac parade
« Reply #57 on: April 11, 2008, 09:48:05 AM »
nope, totally not what im saying.

Im saying the australians played a big part in fighting against the Righteous, and bringing in a communist anti-semitic government to SA. This fact is portrayed regularly on australian air waves on channels such as SBS and ABC.




Ok ok I see where we have the problem, first of all the Australian Broadcasting network, or Aunty thats is commonly called by some, is a very left wing Multi cultural station. Gone are the days when it reported the truth, let alone any credible facts.

They only use it plays in Australian society is that it keeps up with social issues. Rather than hard line news, or worth while doco's.

Australian TV is become very pityful indeed. Hence I have Foxtel.

SBS is the voice and vision of multicultural Australia.

They run programs that they get good money to air, including Porn.

Please don't watch that rubbish.

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The Special Broadcasting Service (SBS) is one of two government funded Australian public broadcasting radio and television networks, the other being the Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC).


I might also add that neither SBS or ABC reflect majority Australian values or beliefs. They represent the view of latte-sipping inner city  leftists and professional immigrants & race pimps. Taking their representations as a majority view is like taking Haretz as the majority Israeli view.

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Re: Boer War descendants to march in Anzac parade
« Reply #58 on: April 11, 2008, 09:51:28 AM »
Metrosexual yuppys is the label befitting them.


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Re: Boer War descendants to march in Anzac parade
« Reply #59 on: April 15, 2008, 01:27:51 PM »


Australia's Dutch

Ok. Didn't know that.
Can you now leave the place, since it is mine :::D
Turkey must get out of NATO. NATO must get out of Kosovo-Serbia. Croats must get out of Crajina. All muslims must get out of Christian and Jewish land. Turks must get out of Cyprus. Turks must get out of "Istanbul". "Palestinians" must get out of Israel. Israel must become independent from USA.

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Re: Boer War descendants to march in Anzac parade
« Reply #60 on: April 15, 2008, 11:55:08 PM »
 :::D

What I was actually meaning by that, was that it was only the Dutch and Germans in Australia that were protessing Australia's involvement in the Boer War.

And yes, Australia was first discovered by the dutch, hence a possible claim lies with the Dutch  ;)

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Re: Boer War descendants to march in Anzac parade
« Reply #61 on: April 16, 2008, 05:46:18 AM »

Less than 50,000 BOERS fighting the worlds largest and powerfull army of 400,000+, and still winning!
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It is sometimes said, with some justification, that the Boers won the Peace. It is never said, except by Boeregeneraal, that they won the War. Sure, it is sometimes said that they sort-of-lost the War, but that's like being a little bit pregnant.

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« Reply #62 on: April 16, 2008, 05:50:33 AM »
winning and won. Might I remind you there is a BIG difference between saying winning (which I said), and 'won'(which you are implying I [BG] said).

So by your argument id would go the way of the various wars glorious Israel fought. At the start the arabs were WINNING...but they LOST, and the ISRAELI'S WON!


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« Reply #63 on: April 16, 2008, 06:16:52 AM »
winning and won. Might I remind you there is a BIG difference between saying winning (which I said), and 'won'(which you are implying I [BG] said).

So by your argument id would go the way of the various wars glorious Israel fought. At the start the arabs were WINNING...but they LOST, and the ISRAELI'S WON!


Technical difference, but never mind. Sure, both sides won and lost. In the words of the Afrikaans historian Lourens van der Post, the Anglo-Boer War was simply the sort of thing that the European countries did all the time in the nineteenth century. Don't worry about it. Let me advise something else. Most of the people I know who have moved to Australia have set about becoming Australians. When people they moved to S. Africa they stayed what they were, largely because of the cultural divides between whites. The English stayed English, long after the England they knew had disappeared. So, why not give being Australian a go. As Pick Botha once said of Australia, we are the same people. Re. southern Africa, and talking about unity, remember the words of the breakaway right-wing Jaap Marais, leader of the Afrikaans HNP, when he said that he stood for the unity of all whites, and that the battle for southern Africa should have been fought on the banks of the Zambesi, not the Limpopo. He was right, a sort of Enoch Powell, similarly outcast for saying the truth. But don't worry too much - there will never be a resettlement of whites in the Cape, but there might just be a time, starting in Zimbabwe, when the whites get welcomed back.