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BTW, what happened to GTHS?

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I'm not even going to get in on this one.  I can feel my IQ start to slip....  I'm sure fjack you meant Pontiac and not Cadillac ;)
« Last Edit: January 11, 2007, 05:01:10 PM by Marzutra »
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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 wow....wow......this was one weird trip!  :o
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I watched the self hater anderson cooper who did a whole one hour on oprah's school and low and behold there was one white girl. She was very ugly with braces on her teeth. I was under the assumption that braces were expensive. I am sure one day we will see this white creature on jerry springer.

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I'm not even going to get in on this one.  I can feel my IQ start to slip....  I'm sure you mean Pontiac and not Cadillac ;)

Have you tried taking a laxitive?  How about an enema?

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Wow, that was a very intellectually inspired statement.  Actually, I think it is good for Oprah to have all or mostly blacks in her schools.  I'd not want my children there anyway.  I think the collapse of the American Academia to cater to shvartzas is a very good example of why NOT to place your child in the school. 

I did actually like the one about you being Robert Mugabe....  What a highly esteemed comparison and a very fitting example of a righteous black African leader....  There is a very good chapter in the book "The History of Torture" - Daniel P. Mannix which describes the civilized African cultures up until the turn of the 20th century, but some argue that it still exists in some black African nations….  The Nigerian one was very informative when children were cared for by the state/king, spoiled and treated like a royalty until reaching a teenager.  The young person is raised “without blemish” to take part in the advanced annual festivities consisting of a "human sacrifice parades” where the end of their parade celebrations led them to a most violent end, cannibalism, drinking of blood etc. while the blood continually drains into a large smelly cesspool “deep enough to float a small boat...”. 
« Last Edit: January 11, 2007, 05:18:56 PM by Marzutra »
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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Hey, fjack started it.  It it some unwritten rule that white guys are the only ones who are allowed to have fun here?

Anyway, I though you weren't going to make me "climb that mountain"??  :P


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How come you have a book called "The History of Torture"?  I'm not afraid of you Marzutra, but maybe I should be?  :o  ;)

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If you are a black man whom wishes to come and make positive contributions that's fine but if you wish to come here and insult people that is wholely another.  If you ever read any of my posts you will see that I have nothing againsts righteous people of any race but I am not tolerant of intolerance.  I'm not open minded to closed mindedness.  Certainly not ingnorant insults, immoralty nor criminality.......  This is perhaps why I feel the majority of blacks are not righteous people but very primitive and criminal which one can plainly see via their revolting deeds...
« Last Edit: January 11, 2007, 05:31:18 PM by Marzutra »
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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So what of fjack, and the other idiot who called me a monkey?  And your "P.O.N.T.I.A.C" crack.  What's that all about??  Is that not insults directly at me?

Seems you guys can dish it out but you cant take it.

Politically, I am a centrist.  I support Israel and the determination of the Jewish people.  But I don't support racism or bigotry, so  if G-d's chosen cannot rise above it all to establish His kingdom then it's downfall will be of our own doing.  So you're right.. I'm not here just to agree with all the member's here.  I'm here to fully participate.

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We are like Joe Friday in the old dragnet tv series. 'Just the facts ma'am'. We tend to speak from experience and from what books and studies that we read. When you deal with us try and come armed with an intellectural defense or offense to make your point. Just because you 'think' something is true, doesn't mean it is true. I make sure that I have read what my enemies have written and I even question what some authors of the 'right' say. You cannot ignore facts, if africa is a basket case, that is what it is, and if you are dumb enough to think that an air head such as bono is going to fix it then there is no hope for you at all. We may argue with each other, but we do not use personal insults unless we get a real smart ass and then we will let them have it. I for one will not be politically correct, cultural sensitve or a phoney. I won't use foul language to make my point since I believe that that is nothing but an easy way to avoid of making cogent argument. So if you or anyone else wants to take us on, you are more than welcomed. Just be sure that you can take the heat without losing your cool. Ta, ta for now!

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The fact of the matter ALL of our statements SOLELY apply to the NON-Righteous portion of the black community....NOT the righteous blacks.  Cosmo is a supreme example of a righteous black man...  It is not our fault that the vast majority of the black community, even now large sections of the white and other communities have embraced this black sub-human "urban" culture of crime, drugs, sex/rape, filth and deprevity. 

If you are a righteous black man you will see the difference between shvartzas and blacks, Wiggers/trailer park garbage and whites and of course Kikes and Jews.  "Those who are kind to the cruel, in the end will be cruel to the kind" - Qohelet Raba 7:16. 

There is a very big difference.  The EVIL deserve NO respect nor any whitewashing of their evilness.....  This includes Socialist Judenrot scum.  I hope I have approached this the proper way and presented it logically to you. 
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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 Its would be safe to guess said  guy kanaga is not a evil nut case!
   I sometimes wounder.....

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everybody lets just take it down a notch, as I've said before we can disagree without it becoming personal.

Kononga, may I ask you a few questions?

Could you explain your views more thoroughly? I also oppose racism and bigotry from anyone, and I am not against Arabs because their Arabs, but I am against them because the vast majority of Arabs wish harm to the Jewish people. As for Africa and blacks I dont judge them as a group but most African nations and most blacks support people who wish to perpetrate another holocaust.

I recall you mentioning you are Jewish and I'd like to ask everyone to remember all Jews are brothers so lets debate ideas not throw insults.

How did you find this forum?

Since your Jewish how religious are you?

Have you ever learned the Mishne Torah? Because in Hilchot Melachim the rules of war are set down and they include the precept that we fight nations not individuals.

"For it is through the mercy of fools that all Justice is lost"
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I was "googling" for jewish stuff  one day and I remember finding the homepage first.  I admit I was a bit taken back by all of the anti black propaganda, but at the same time it also made me very curious.  I had heard of the Rabbi Meir Kahane before, but never knew that he and his supporters though of Black Americans as the enemy of Jews.  All I can say is that it made me very curious, and I wanted to understand why.  The thought sort of troubled me that I could be in shul Saturday morning bowing in unison during Aleinu with a bunch of guys who are only tolerating me for the sake of having an occasional AA decoration.

I originally joined on here as Yochanan Zev.  I may have spent a month or so exploring the site before I actually decided to post a reply.

As far as other my conversations with other blacks go, well I would always speak up against unfounded criticism against Jews.  So much so that people don't ever discuss these things with me, unless it's something they know I would defend.  You are correct in that many blacks who are not knowlegable of the events and history of Israel identify with the Arabs who identify as Palestinians because they see the Jews as white oppresors and occupiers.  A quick looking over much of the material on this site does little to dispell their claims. 

I also get frustrated and angry at these unyielding types who insist on living in the past.  By virtue of being Black and Jewish, I'm a natural outcast.  A lone wolf.  I honestly don't care about acceptance anymore, for in order to have peace with myself so I can do my best work I've learned to embrace my outsider status.  My allegiances go beyond matters of race and religion but to try as much as I can to do what's right.  I can only be but so lucky to have the opportunity to stand up, so the time is now to seize that opportunity.   Having said that I believe that the Palestinians missed out, and will continue to miss out because of the unyielding desire to remain locked in the past, failure to seize opportunity, and to finally relinquish those paradigms that only serve to keep them stuck in a state of disempowerment.  The same can be said for other groups including blacks, latinos, appalachian whites, and in some ways even Jews.  And talk about dumbing yourself down, I never could see the sense in responding to hate with hate.  I would like to stay above the fray so that I'm aware of the possiblities that opportunity may present so me, lest I allow myself to get pulled down with those who only know how to respond to hatred.

As far as the Mishnah Torah, I've only studied the Laws of Repentance which I'll read at the beginning of Elul.  So I can't say I'm familiar with the section you are referring to.

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In all honesty JTF is unique in their attitudes towards Blacks, most Kahanists do not care either way about the Black community in particular, but rather are hostile to whoever is the enemy of the Jewish people.
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Karanga, I agree with what you said in your fourth paragraph. That is what we have been saying for years. When, someone such as I tell the brutal truth, it is like I am using shock treatment. If a person does not want to improve their situation, then they are not a person, they are someone that walks around, blaming everyone for their own dowmfalls, for their inability to attain and just want to blame everyone and everything for the mess they made of their lives, There might be some hope for you yet.

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Karanga, I agree with what you said in your fourth paragraph. That is what we have been saying for years. When, someone such as I tell the brutal truth, it is like I am using shock treatment. If a person does not want to improve their situation, then they are not a person, they are someone that walks around, blaming everyone for their own dowmfalls, for their inability to attain and just want to blame everyone and everything for the mess they made of their lives, There might be some hope for you yet.
Can I second fjack's post.  Thank you Kananga for the clarification.  I try to debate with logic, knowledge and try not to insult.  When I was writing above about the African culture, I speak of documented fact that I always try to list with specific readings for others on JTF to fact check.  I am not against you, personally, at all.  Not whatsoever.  I am against this criminal degeneracy that is promulgated 24/7 within this deprave rap/hip hop garbage and pseudo-culture that has mushroomed from it that advocates crime, dumbing down and criminality.  To tell you the truth I had not known you were Jewish but just another person wishing to come on and argue, label and digress the atmosphere on the JTF Forum.  A supreme example is that the Black Community hold Martin Luther King as the be all and end all for Blackness in America but if one actually researches him he plagiarized the vast majority of his works, dissertation and speeches.  King was a card carrying member of the Communist Party of America and was linked to many Fabian Socialist organization like the ACLU and the NAACP.  He should be condemned by the Blacks not loved. Unlike Kahaneloyalist, I am against single people as well as groups as long as they advocate the worse things or directly attack the righteous Jews.  I am not against Arabs but Islam since Islam specifically advocates the conversion, slavery/exploitation or death of any non-Muslim.  I believe there is hope for everyone and it is their free will that lets them choose to TRY to be righteous or TRY to be scum.  Welcome aboard.

Oh, one thing.  There are no "Palestine", "Palestinians" nor "The West Bank it is all one big terrible anti-Semitic/anti-Israel and anti Western attack pure and simple…
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"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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To tell you the truth I had not known you were Jewish but just another person wishing to come on and argue, label and digress the atmosphere on the JTF Forum.  A supreme example is that the Black Community hold Martin Luther King as the be all and end all for Blackness in America but if one actually researches him he plagiarized the vast majority of his works, dissertation and speeches.  King was a card carrying member of the Communist Party of America and was linked to many Fabian Socialist organization like the ACLU and the NAACP.  He should be condemned by the Blacks not loved.

You have a right to your opinion Marzutra.  What MLK is commended for is his advocacy for civil rights and committment to justice.  Not only for blacks, but for everyone.  The fact is that many synagogues and churches will be commemorate his life and accomplishments this weekend, whether he may have borrowed language in his speech, or had so many white girlfriends. Blacks and whites, who may have not otherwise come together on other occasions will do so this weekend. 

He wasn't perfect, and no one is pretending that he was.  But the man did good work anyway.  You can find negatives about most people if you dig hard enough.

With that, it's time for me to go home, light candles, crack open the Baron Herzog and delve into some Torah.  Good Shabbes.   

I know it will be hard, but try to enjoy the day off anyway.

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Ironically enough I am working monday :'(
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Ironically enough I am working monday :'(
I am also! Its just a regular work day anyway!
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michael king, his real name, is a vile creature that was a liar, a whore monger, white and Jew hater, a plagarist and a commie. He left a string of girlfriends all over the country, one belonged to the senate of louisana, I happened to see an interview with her on tony brown's journel many years ago. When will the government release his records. what are they hiding? This animal inspired a riot every where he went to. By saying, I don't believe in VIOLENCE, I do not want to see you revert to VIOLENCE, I be opposed to VIOLENCE, what do think these low IQ massives will revert to ______________VIOLENCE! This is an old tried and try commie type of indoctrination. There is nothing new here. It is also interesting to know the true feelings of Ghandi regarding his black bros in South Africa. Google his name and you will find out that he no use for the blacks at all. I think it would be a good way of MLK day to have all the prostitues to give away for his memory, all liqour stores give away free booze on his day and all students that were caught plagarizing be given a free ride in his honor.

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Shavouah tov everyone.  I agree with you fjack 100%.  Here is another one of my longer responses to clearify any ineptitudes surrounding this Black Arafat.

Yes, we are all allowed to have our own opinions.  Most of the time, I am not interested in opinions but only facts.  If you are a Jew it would not be right to admire a Communist because Judaism and Communism are at direct odds and are, in fact, enemies.  People like Martin Luther King would be considered Amelek in Judaism, though the immense propaganda has built them up to be icons.  Luther's and his like ilk's own ideologies (communism/international socialism) demands the vanquishing of G-d, religion, morality, nationality, culture etc.  Peoples, and the followers of peoples, like Martin Luther King are directly responsible for the murders/death of between 100 and 150 million people in Cuba, Russia, Poland, Ukrane, Lithewania, Latvia, Estonia, Spain, Italy, France, Germany, China, Cambodia, Laos, the Middle East, Africa and South America; all of modern history.  King didn’t “borrow” what King did is actually theft.  King became a “Pastor” at some Baptist Church in Alabama which is about as farsical as "Rev" Jesse Jackoff.  What can a Communist, who believes G-d should be VANQUISHED contribute to ANY church but molested/Communist abominations and direct subversions/attacks on Christianity and G-d.  He and Rosa Parks were not heroes as the Socialist media continually propagates, they were directly connected, organized, promoted and funded by the highly organized Communist and socialist movements/parties of America and used as pawns to push the Socializing/Communizing agenda.  You should know that those same peoples and organizations are the SAME ones who fully support the so-called "Palestinian People" and the vanquishing of Aretz Israel.  Research on The British Fabian Society will satisfy this statement emphatically. 

The fact of the matter is, what King had done might well have been seen as a “righteous” deed by the black community, but was it?  What was the outcome?  I’d say the black communities and the white communities still suffer to this day from him and his likeness, reckless actions.   After his protest in Washington there were more racial battles, after Kennedy’s forced desegregation of the school system there was more friction, a direct negative effect on performance of both the Blacks and the Whites and the start of the continual collapsing and communizing of American Education in its entirety.  The Blacks were far more educated and civilized prior to desegregation than they are today.  South Africa is another good overly distorted example with pre and post apartheid.  The result of Kennedy’s, and even Lyndon B. Johnson’s, racial catering led to mass lootings, murders and the burning down of almost every major city center in America.  Lyndon Johnson stated, and quite accurately so, that “Martin Luther King Jr. was a hypocrite preacher.”  Thanks to King and his Socialist/Communist ilk in Britain’s Fabian Society, America’s ACLU, NAACP ect. brought the SCLC and the violence committed by Malcolm X and his distorted followers, the Marxist Black Panther Group and the entire murderous Black Power movement which raped, robbed and murdered Jews which gave rise to Rabbi Meir Kahane, zecher tzadik livracha, and his Jewish Defense League: JDL. 

The only “Jews” and “Synagogues” that would admire Martin Luther King are the Reform “Jews”.  Since Reform “Judaism” isn’t Judaism at all but a Socialist/Pagan/New Age Cult of Judenrot which was also founded by Bundist/Communist Abraham Geiger in 1841 "To Eliminate the Opiate” from within.  “Rabbi” Geiger was directly responsible for molesting of the Torah, Tanach, Talmud and committing mass institutional digression of Judaism through his Reform “Temples” and “Yeshivas”.  One can directly see why these ineptitudes and evils such as “Pro choice”, “gay marriage” mass intermarriage, and mass assimilation infect the Reform and “Conservative” movements and why they would support such a hypocrite as Martin Luther King Jr.. 

Yes it is your choice to honor, propagate or admire anyone, any ideology and any deed you see fit but be informed that Martin Luther King was an enemy of Judaism and the Jewish people….  Fact, not opinion; Yahuda HaMaccabee and his fight against these Hellenist/Seleucid creatures in 165BCE and Marzutra II’s battled them in “enlightened” Babylonia for Jewish independence and Judaism as a religion in 520AD, the mass excommunications and molestations of/in Judaism of so-called “Messiahs”, “Rabbis” and distorted “Utopian” so-called Jews with their immense damage to Judaism and Jewry since the 1600’s: Shabbatai Tzvi, Jacob Frank, Moses Mendelssohn , Abraham Geiger, Isaac Mayer Wise, Stephen Wise…..Henry Kissenger etc..

“Those who cannot remember the past are doomed to repeat it.” – George Santayana or as Davkakach would state: “Kindness becomes a crime when applied to the cruel.” – Thomas Mann.   
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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 Wow, Marzutra I never knew Martin King was such a fellow, I always taught he to be a good man period.
   
  Now Melcome X always knew was a beast, but martin king and communism ect?

  Can you be kind and point to more proof of th facts on this topic besides The British Fabian Society?

   Its not that I mayself don't believe you, but I would like to see more of your sources, I wont lie i find this rather intriguing to tell the truth.

   Thanks.

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Wow, Marzutra I never knew Martin King was such a fellow, I always taught he to be a good man period.
   
  Now Melcome X always knew was a beast, but martin king and communism ect?

  Can you be kind and point to more proof of th facts on this topic besides The British Fabian Society?

   Its not that I mayself don't believe you, but I would like to see more of your sources, I wont lie i find this rather intriguing to tell the truth.

   Thanks.
Absolutely, if you want a glimpse of Martin Luther King Jr. from a leftwing source, you can just go to Wikipedia which displays his association with the Communist party.  If you look up Ms. Parks you will too see this from a left wing source.  If you want to read about how the Communist movement uses blacks and front groups; "Peace", "Freedom", "Democracy", "Human Rights" etc. Louis Bodens "The Techniques of Communism".  Rose Martin's "Fabian Freeway, the High Road to Socialism in America" along with John. T. Flynn's "The Decline of the American Republic" also chats about this.  You can just as well go on Google and type in "Martin Luther King Junior Communist" and you will get a slew of hits.  The fact is, he was a card carrying member of the Communist party, was aided, funded and directed by them with their socialist brethren to use the blacks to push the Marxist agenda.  Just like Reverend Jesse Lee Peterson, a righteous black man, speaks out agaisnt Socialist scum like "Rev" Jesse Jackoff....in his book "SCAM"  King would be in the same boat if alive today.  A sham pure and simple to both the Righteous Black Community and the Righteous White Community.  Placing a statue of a black communist in Washington is comparable to spitting in the faces of the founding fathers considering your consitution was explicitely written so that the ideology that King professed to would never become LEGAL in America. 

To learn about Communism/Socialism one must read it from the source: "Communist Manifesto", "Republic", "Utopia" and most probable the "New Age" garbage  by Madam Blavatsky or Alice Bailey as well due to it having many things in common with political communism.  If you should read a very accurate book about the history of Communism: "The Black Book of Communism" - S. Courtois.  Should you wish the tactics, aside from Bodenz, "New Lies for Old" - Anatoly Golitsyn.  And if one wants to know who is behind the spread of Socialism/Communism they should read: "The Anglo-American Establisment" or "Tragedy and Hope" both by Carroll Quigley (Leftist and appologist) or "The Naked Capitalist" - Cleon Skousen, "The Insiders" - J. MacMannus or "Shadows of Power" - J. Perloff from the Christian Right or from the Jewish Right Rabbi Marvin Antelman's "To Eliminate the Opiate" with "Perfidy"- Ben Hect although digressing from the origional topic: MLKjr with my apologies..

The funny thing is that Michael Savage speaks about the ACLU, NAACP and others all the time and has also related the same about King, Parks, the Black Panthers and others.  I hope this helps, I have tons more should you wish....  You might also be informed of the movie "Roots" by Alex Haley was also a plagiarized sham for which he was sued over....  If you have any specific question I will surely be happy to supply refs. 

PS: We are always taught that there is a "Palestinian People" and "Islam is a religion of peace"....doesn't much make it so...  "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America" - C.T. Iserbyte for the Marxitizing and "New Aging" of our Educational system and Oswald Spengler's 1926 prediction "The Decline of the West" vol. 2 specifically....the decline of the Christian West like Rome, Greece, Carthage, Sparta, Egypt....  A good book on the sponsors of Marxist and Islamic terrorism, although a bit dated but still applies to today's world is "The Terror Network" C. Stirling or even "Cold Terror" - S. Bell....is also ok....  The only thing, in my opinion that saved Old Whitey then is the Blacks weren't armed to the teeth like they are today....:'(
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"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.