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My Video On BNP
briann:
--- Quote from: zelhar on April 15, 2008, 03:50:07 PM ---
--- Quote from: briann on April 15, 2008, 02:18:40 PM ---
--- Quote from: 2honest on April 15, 2008, 01:41:18 PM ---
--- Quote from: IslamIsCancer on April 15, 2008, 01:09:17 PM ---Honestly I didn't know they deny the holocaust, it's a disgrace if they do. So far as I know they have Jewish members in their party so wikipedia may be lying.
--- End quote ---
It seems as if they were at least in the past antisemitic. May be they have changed.
I'm simply not sure if it's wise to trust groups like BNP and Vlaams Belang.
--- End quote ---
Again. I cant stress this enough. They have completely dropped the Holocause denial, and have publicly stated that this was a 'STUPID' position in the past. and are FAR more Zionist than the mainstream parties. They have taken extraordinary measures completely erase their anti-semitic past. I know their members very well. and nearly all are righteous christian zionists... who love Britain.
ALSO.. they removed the nordic/Pagan symbols from their website... They have dropped ALL action to remove the legal ban on holocaust denying, and most importantly.. they allow practicing Jews... of which I know a couple.
ALL of their articles now are anti-Islam and anti-immigrant.. and that is all. If we don't align ourselves with them.. .we are making a HUGE mistake!!!
The MSM HATES the BNP, so they will ALWAYS stress their stupidity in the 80's.
--- End quote ---
What about their support of the holocaust denier David Irwing? They must completely remove the likes of him.
--- End quote ---
Irwing is a subhuman. I'll ask some of my BNP friends if they have removed all references to him. From what Ive seen, theyve done an excellent job removing anything and everything that is pro-nazi.. and pretty much.. every neo-nazi has abandon the BNP.
BTW. Irwing is a HERO!!! in Iran. Ackmadinjijad constantly refers to him as a brave warrior against evil western zionism.
Ambiorix:
--- Quote from: briann on April 15, 2008, 03:54:39 PM ---
--- Quote from: Ambiorix on April 15, 2008, 03:33:46 PM ---
--- Quote from: briann on April 15, 2008, 03:18:08 PM ---
--- Quote from: Ambiorix on April 15, 2008, 02:46:07 PM ---
--- Quote from: briann on April 15, 2008, 02:18:40 PM ---
--- Quote from: 2honest on April 15, 2008, 01:41:18 PM ---
--- Quote from: IslamIsCancer on April 15, 2008, 01:09:17 PM ---Honestly I didn't know they deny the holocaust, it's a disgrace if they do. So far as I know they have Jewish members in their party so wikipedia may be lying.
--- End quote ---
It seems as if they were at least in the past antisemitic. May be they have changed.
I'm simply not sure if it's wise to trust groups like BNP and Vlaams Belang.
--- End quote ---
Again. I cant stress this enough. They have completely dropped the Holocause denial, and have publicly stated that this was a 'STUPID' position in the past. and are FAR more Zionist than the mainstream parties. They have taken extraordinary measures completely erase their anti-semitic past. I know their members very well. and nearly all are righteous christian zionists... who love Britain.
ALSO.. they removed the nordic/Pagan symbols from their website... They have dropped ALL action to remove the legal ban on holocaust denying, and most importantly.. they allow practicing Jews... of which I know a couple.
ALL of their articles now are anti-Islam and anti-immigrant.. and that is all. If we don't align ourselves with them.. .we are making a HUGE mistake!!!
The MSM HATES the BNP, so they will ALWAYS stress their stupidity in the 80's.
--- End quote ---
For me pagan symbols itself are not necessarily neo-Nazi.
It is the alphabet our ancestres used before the Roman alphabet was adapted.
I know that the BNP still uses these runes at their white and blue festivals.
--- End quote ---
Yes. I know they arent always neo-nazi.. but unfortunately... thats what people think when they see them.
When I see them, I think paganism... which... has all sorts of negative connotations... one of which being the nazis.
--- End quote ---
"Paganism" the European native religion and runes have nothing to do with nazism.
The Swastika is also a symbol hijacked by these occultists.
There is nothing German about the "Hachenkreuz".
--- End quote ---
Beleive me, Im aware of this. But its not what the TRUE meaning of the symbols are... its what the average joe thinks of the symbols.
The swastika had all sorts of positive meanings in the past. It was sacred in Budhism, Tibet mythology, and Native American symbolism.
It was a common good luck symbol as well. but if the BNP put a big swaztika on their page as a good luck symbol... forget about it.
--- End quote ---
Swastikas don't belong to our culture.
But runes do.
I do not advocate using them in a political context.
But in fact these runes are a part of our European history.
briann:
--- Quote from: Ambiorix on April 15, 2008, 04:05:35 PM ---
--- Quote from: briann on April 15, 2008, 03:54:39 PM ---
--- Quote from: Ambiorix on April 15, 2008, 03:33:46 PM ---
--- Quote from: briann on April 15, 2008, 03:18:08 PM ---
--- Quote from: Ambiorix on April 15, 2008, 02:46:07 PM ---
--- Quote from: briann on April 15, 2008, 02:18:40 PM ---
--- Quote from: 2honest on April 15, 2008, 01:41:18 PM ---
--- Quote from: IslamIsCancer on April 15, 2008, 01:09:17 PM ---Honestly I didn't know they deny the holocaust, it's a disgrace if they do. So far as I know they have Jewish members in their party so wikipedia may be lying.
--- End quote ---
It seems as if they were at least in the past antisemitic. May be they have changed.
I'm simply not sure if it's wise to trust groups like BNP and Vlaams Belang.
--- End quote ---
Again. I cant stress this enough. They have completely dropped the Holocause denial, and have publicly stated that this was a 'STUPID' position in the past. and are FAR more Zionist than the mainstream parties. They have taken extraordinary measures completely erase their anti-semitic past. I know their members very well. and nearly all are righteous christian zionists... who love Britain.
ALSO.. they removed the nordic/Pagan symbols from their website... They have dropped ALL action to remove the legal ban on holocaust denying, and most importantly.. they allow practicing Jews... of which I know a couple.
ALL of their articles now are anti-Islam and anti-immigrant.. and that is all. If we don't align ourselves with them.. .we are making a HUGE mistake!!!
The MSM HATES the BNP, so they will ALWAYS stress their stupidity in the 80's.
--- End quote ---
For me pagan symbols itself are not necessarily neo-Nazi.
It is the alphabet our ancestres used before the Roman alphabet was adapted.
I know that the BNP still uses these runes at their white and blue festivals.
--- End quote ---
Yes. I know they arent always neo-nazi.. but unfortunately... thats what people think when they see them.
When I see them, I think paganism... which... has all sorts of negative connotations... one of which being the nazis.
--- End quote ---
"Paganism" the European native religion and runes have nothing to do with nazism.
The Swastika is also a symbol hijacked by these occultists.
There is nothing German about the "Hachenkreuz".
--- End quote ---
Beleive me, Im aware of this. But its not what the TRUE meaning of the symbols are... its what the average joe thinks of the symbols.
The swastika had all sorts of positive meanings in the past. It was sacred in Budhism, Tibet mythology, and Native American symbolism.
It was a common good luck symbol as well. but if the BNP put a big swaztika on their page as a good luck symbol... forget about it.
--- End quote ---
Swastikas don't belong to our culture.
But runes do.
I do not advocate using them in a political context.
But in fact these runes are a part of our European history.
--- End quote ---
I still support their removal from the webpage. Runes envoke paganism and occultism, and while they are part of the indigenous germanic culture... they aren't a good symbol for western nationalism and/or patriotism.. they are a a big turn-off... especially for religious folks.
Brian
Harzel:
--- Quote from: briann on April 15, 2008, 03:58:12 PM ---
--- Quote from: zelhar on April 15, 2008, 03:50:07 PM ---
--- Quote from: briann on April 15, 2008, 02:18:40 PM ---
--- Quote from: 2honest on April 15, 2008, 01:41:18 PM ---
--- Quote from: IslamIsCancer on April 15, 2008, 01:09:17 PM ---Honestly I didn't know they deny the holocaust, it's a disgrace if they do. So far as I know they have Jewish members in their party so wikipedia may be lying.
--- End quote ---
It seems as if they were at least in the past antisemitic. May be they have changed.
I'm simply not sure if it's wise to trust groups like BNP and Vlaams Belang.
--- End quote ---
Again. I cant stress this enough. They have completely dropped the Holocause denial, and have publicly stated that this was a 'STUPID' position in the past. and are FAR more Zionist than the mainstream parties. They have taken extraordinary measures completely erase their anti-semitic past. I know their members very well. and nearly all are righteous christian zionists... who love Britain.
ALSO.. they removed the nordic/Pagan symbols from their website... They have dropped ALL action to remove the legal ban on holocaust denying, and most importantly.. they allow practicing Jews... of which I know a couple.
ALL of their articles now are anti-Islam and anti-immigrant.. and that is all. If we don't align ourselves with them.. .we are making a HUGE mistake!!!
The MSM HATES the BNP, so they will ALWAYS stress their stupidity in the 80's.
--- End quote ---
What about their support of the holocaust denier David Irwing? They must completely remove the likes of him.
--- End quote ---
Irwing is a subhuman. I'll ask some of my BNP friends if they have removed all references to him. From what Ive seen, theyve done an excellent job removing anything and everything that is pro-nazi.. and pretty much.. every neo-nazi has abandon the BNP.
BTW. Irwing is a HERO!!! in Iran. Ackmadinjijad constantly refers to him as a brave warrior against evil western zionism.
--- End quote ---
I think that the BNP has to express a MORAL support of Israel, condemn holocaust denial as well and to express its regrets for the antisemitic and racist stands which it either promoted or tolerated in the past. It must be public, and it must be made clear that this is a change of moral and ideology, rather than an opportunistic political maneuver.
If they fail to do so, they are not kosher for Jews.
Ambiorix:
--- Quote from: zelhar on April 15, 2008, 04:40:50 PM ---
--- Quote from: briann on April 15, 2008, 03:58:12 PM ---
--- Quote from: zelhar on April 15, 2008, 03:50:07 PM ---
--- Quote from: briann on April 15, 2008, 02:18:40 PM ---
--- Quote from: 2honest on April 15, 2008, 01:41:18 PM ---
--- Quote from: IslamIsCancer on April 15, 2008, 01:09:17 PM ---Honestly I didn't know they deny the holocaust, it's a disgrace if they do. So far as I know they have Jewish members in their party so wikipedia may be lying.
--- End quote ---
It seems as if they were at least in the past antisemitic. May be they have changed.
I'm simply not sure if it's wise to trust groups like BNP and Vlaams Belang.
--- End quote ---
Again. I cant stress this enough. They have completely dropped the Holocause denial, and have publicly stated that this was a 'STUPID' position in the past. and are FAR more Zionist than the mainstream parties. They have taken extraordinary measures completely erase their anti-semitic past. I know their members very well. and nearly all are righteous christian zionists... who love Britain.
ALSO.. they removed the nordic/Pagan symbols from their website... They have dropped ALL action to remove the legal ban on holocaust denying, and most importantly.. they allow practicing Jews... of which I know a couple.
ALL of their articles now are anti-Islam and anti-immigrant.. and that is all. If we don't align ourselves with them.. .we are making a HUGE mistake!!!
The MSM HATES the BNP, so they will ALWAYS stress their stupidity in the 80's.
--- End quote ---
What about their support of the holocaust denier David Irwing? They must completely remove the likes of him.
--- End quote ---
Irwing is a subhuman. I'll ask some of my BNP friends if they have removed all references to him. From what Ive seen, theyve done an excellent job removing anything and everything that is pro-nazi.. and pretty much.. every neo-nazi has abandon the BNP.
BTW. Irwing is a HERO!!! in Iran. Ackmadinjijad constantly refers to him as a brave warrior against evil western zionism.
--- End quote ---
I think that the BNP has to express a MORAL support of Israel, condemn holocaust denial as well and to express its regrets for the antisemitic and racist stands which it either promoted or tolerated in the past. It must be public, and it must be made clear that this is a change of moral and ideology, rather than an opportunistic political maneuver.
If they fail to do so, they are not kosher for Jews.
--- End quote ---
In my opinion Nick Griffin did this openly.
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