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Offline DownwithIslam

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Re: Challenge to Guzzy's fans.
« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2008, 08:32:49 PM »
When R' Kahane Zs'l talks about crazies motivated by hatred that damage the movement, he was talking about people like you Downwithislam.  You simply trample over the Torah by slandering great people and have a very distorted view of Judaism. 

My view of judaism is very sound. You are certainly not the one to tell me whether or not my view of judaism is correct. I will let someone of a higher authority than you decide that. I am sorry you are upset that I defend a man who has given his whole entire life in defense of the jewish people.
I don't care if you think that Chaim is the greatest man who ever existed and you don't like Yekutiel.  Great for you.  I am upset that you slander a righteous man.   

Go back to the splinter group. You claimed you were leaving jtf so now be a man of your word and stop pestering us here. Would you like me to pay a visit to your brothel(aka kahane.org) and disrupt the evil activities going on there?
I am urinating on a Koran.

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Re: Challenge to Guzzy's fans.
« Reply #26 on: April 17, 2008, 08:41:30 PM »
And it will be OK to lose a big Kahanist spokesmen all for the opportunity to wait until Chaim comes to Israel, which may never happen. 

Yekutiel is not a big Kahanist spokesman. He is a FAT Kahanist spokesman. Big difference.



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Re: Challenge to Guzzy's fans.
« Reply #27 on: April 17, 2008, 08:45:36 PM »
And it will be OK to lose a big Kahanist spokesmen all for the opportunity to wait until Chaim comes to Israel, which may never happen. 

Yekutiel is not a big Kahanist spokesman. He is a FAT Kahanist spokesman. Big difference.



Ok, he is fat. What does that matter? There is a famous story of someone making fun of a rabbi. He told him blame Hashem for that. That is how Hashem made him, blame Hashem for it, dont make fun of him. You are a clear out Rasha.

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Re: Challenge to Guzzy's fans.
« Reply #28 on: April 17, 2008, 08:50:43 PM »

Ok, he is fat. What does that matter?
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No, It doesn't matter. I'm tall and skinny. It sucks, but that's the way I am.

But I don't pretend that I'm Rocky!



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Re: Challenge to Guzzy's fans.
« Reply #29 on: April 17, 2008, 08:58:41 PM »

Ok, he is fat. What does that matter?

No, It doesn't matter. I'm tall and skinny. It sucks, but that's the way I am.

But I don't pretend that I'm Rocky!



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Re: Challenge to Guzzy's fans.
« Reply #30 on: April 17, 2008, 09:28:44 PM »

Cause he does?
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Well do you?

I'm getting tired of arguing with you crazy mixed up kids.

Game over. It's my last post ever on Yekutiel et al.



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Re: Challenge to Guzzy's fans.
« Reply #31 on: April 17, 2008, 10:06:02 PM »
JDL4EVER:

I am not an experienced poster or one with many credentials in the Kahanist movement;  I am a huge fan of RABBI KAHANE ZT"L FIRST AND FOREMOST, and have read many of his books, and would love to spread his message and ideas to all Jews.
However, you claim other people are cult-disciples of Chaim, and that JTF is moreso a ploy to feed his ego and sense of importance than to serve his mentor and rabbi, the great Kahane.  You ALSO make the outlandish claim that YEKUTIEL is doing MORE for the movement than Chaim because he is in Israel, whereas Chaim is stuck in America!  If Chaim is such a powerless egotistical usurper, then WHY is there a HUGE FORUM for JTF in HEBREW language for ISRAELIS?
Chaim has MOBILIZED the movment!  Chaim is brining the message of Kahane to more people, and even though he may not be IN the land of Israel, his message is definately penetrating those with open ears - Noam Federman and the hilltop youth are also part of JTF and the movement - I don't understand how JTF, which has two arms in both IN israel and abroad is weaker than kahane.org's movement, which seems to be limited to Mike Guzofsky and his small group of loyal followers in which you belong.

Nobody is questioning that hilltop communities and other admirable actions of Yekutiel ARE mitzvot, and do help to combat the socialist fascist bolsheviks in Israel... but the major problem is that YOU decide to come to JTF and talk trash about Chaim because a few members of this board have been intrusive on the kahane.org boards.  Chaim, and JTF's, problem with Guzofsky is that he has FRAUDULENTLY claimed to be the real representitive of the Kahanist movement, and the story of this LETTER from Meir Kahane which gives him "legitimate" succession of Kach/Kahane Chai/the Kahanist movement IS the real cause for all this dissent.

so please, stop trying to divide and destroy this movement.  I know the posters on this forum can be overzealous and offensive, but in the end we just want to spread the GREAT MESSAGE OF KAHANE, and personally, i think CHAIM is doing a MUCH MUCH MUCH better job at this - he has adapted to the new world, and has used technology to mobilize what WAS a movement on it's death bed - YOU ARE THE ONE SLANDERING SOMEONE WHO IS DOING MITZVOT, AND YOU ARE BEING VERY HYPOCRITICAL.

Chaim, please keep up the good work.  And please, make some videos where you TALK EXCLUSIVELY ABOUT THE RAV'S WRITINGS AND OPINIONS - THEY ARE THE REAL FUEL FOR THIS MOVEMENT, AND MORE PEOPLE ON THIS FORUM NEED TO LEARN THEM MORE INTIMATELY.

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Re: Challenge to Guzzy's fans.
« Reply #32 on: April 17, 2008, 10:33:10 PM »
Folks, let's not lose focus on the bigger picture here. There are far more pressing issues than Yekuti'el and his pathetic forum. What's more important? Yekuti'el or the Islamic threat to our survival? Yekuti'el or the very realistic danger of the creation of a PLO/Hamas/Fatah terrorist state right within the heart of Israel? Yekuti'el or the strong possibility of a black Muslim controlling the White House? Unless somebody here can convince me that this thread serves a purpose I'm locking it at 11 PM EST.

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Re: Challenge to Guzzy's fans.
« Reply #33 on: April 17, 2008, 10:53:00 PM »
Folks, let's not lose focus on the bigger picture here. There are far more pressing issues than Yekuti'el and his pathetic forum. What's more important? Yekuti'el or the Islamic threat to our survival ? Yekuti'el or the very realistic danger of the creation of a PLO/Hamas/Fatah terrorist state right within the heart of Israel? Yekuti'el or the strong possibility of a black Muslim controlling the White House? Unless somebody here can convince me that this thread serves a purpose I'm locking it at 11 PM EST.



You are right, Yirmiyahu. Which is why I have now banned their members. I let them post here so that we could refute their lies, but I think any sane person can now see who is telling the truth. So we should get back to the real issues, which are the threats to our very survival posed by Barack Hussein Obama, the Muslim terrorists and their Western collaborators.

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Re: Challenge to Guzzy's fans.
« Reply #34 on: April 17, 2008, 10:54:40 PM »
Why are we all fighting, Chaim is a fine leader, Mike is a fine leader, Marzel is a fine leader, all these guys are good honest right-wing guys. While they are all working on different specific things, their general goal is the same, to fix Israel and America.
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Re: Challenge to Guzzy's fans.
« Reply #35 on: April 17, 2008, 10:58:58 PM »
it's a good idea Chaim - you finally put JDL4EVER out of his misery!

he kept claiming he was "done with this", yet he posted more here than on the kahane.org forums.

however, i don't think it's wise to ban all who disagree, i DO think they were side-tracking pretty much any meaningful thread into an arguement about succession of the JDL.

Chaim, i DO have a request for you:  could you please make a video where you read a POWERFUL and still-pertinent excerpt from one of the Kahane's (ZT"L) books, and just expand on it and explain more!  You were very close to the Rav, i know you are trying to avoid speaking for him, and we SHOULD let his word's and writings do the speaking FOR HIM, but i do think we need to INCREASE the exposure people have to his GREAT ideas.

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Re: Challenge to Guzzy's fans.
« Reply #36 on: April 17, 2008, 11:02:38 PM »
I'm sorry guys, but I'm locking this thread.