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Lisa:
Sarah,
I have never read the Koran, but I am of Iranian ancestry, so I figure I'll thrown my two cents in.
Both Judaism and Islam stress the oneness of G-d, and both prohibit making graven images. So you would never ever see in Synagogue, pictures of Moses or King David. But with Judaism, you're not prohibited from actually looking at a graven image that you happen to see someplace. So for example, if someone were to publish derogatory cartoons about Moses, or Abraham, Jews would certainly be offended. But in the case of the Danish cartoons, many Muslims objected to the fact that they were forced to SEE the Mohammed cartoons, as they were all over the place.
Also, both Judaism and Islam forbid the eating of pork. Judaism also considers shellfish unclean (as they are scavengers), as well as animals that are predators. I once read someplace that the reason cows are ok is because the animals have several stomachs. So what they eat is digested in one stomach, then another. Plus which cows mainly eat grass. Then again, the other commenters who are more observant can explain this better than I can.
Then there's the issue of slaughter. Kosher slaughter involves strategically slitting the animal's throat, so that it feels a minimal amount of pain. A friend once told me that the Muslim slaughter involves cutting the animal's throat all the way across. But once the animal is slaughtered, a kosher slaughterer will check all its internal organs to make sure everything looks ok. If anything looks off, the animal is not fit to eat. Also Jewish law prohibits killing an animal in front of its mother, or on the same day as you would slaughter its mother and vice versa. You are also not allowed to try and eat parts of the animal while it's still alive (that's one of the Noahide laws as well). Also, if the animal you are trying to slaughter manages to escape, under Jewish law, you are NOT allowed to pursue it.
Now I don't know about Islam, but Jews don't mix milk and dairy products. That comes from the part of the Bible that says "do not seethe a calf in its mother's milk.
Finally, Judaism is not a missionary (for lack of a better word) religion. Jews believe that non-Jews can also go to heaven, as long as they observe the seven Noahide laws (which, I believe involve no homosexual relations, no killing, no idol worship, no eating the flesh of an animal that's still alive, etc.) But you can ask Jimmy Sullivan or Fjack for more details.
Lisa
Sarah:
Thanks for that Lisa :)
The only rule is that you must slaughter it in the name of God (say bismillah) before you kosh it. Rabbis also have to certify the food don't they?
"Judaism doesn't prohibit pictures. Only graven images"
What do you mean by graven images Yacov.
Lisa:
That's right Sarah. Rabbis have to certify that the mean is kosher. So certain packaged foods have either an OU label on them or a K label. The first label means a food is kosher by Orthodox Jewish standards. The OU stands for Orthodox Union. The K means it is kosher by Conservative Jewish standards. Other times, there is an OU P label, and that means a food is kosher for Passover (that's needed because there are certain kosher foods that Jews are not even allowed to eat on Passover).
Sarah:
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on February 25, 2007, 02:09:17 PM ---OK is Orthodox standards. K means it could be by any rabbi. It stands for kosher as opposed to being a symbol. Pepsi says K on it even though Pepsi is under Orthodox supervision.
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All the little muslim kids think that pepsi stands for:
Pay Every Penny Save Israel.
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on February 25, 2007, 02:12:19 PM ---
--- Quote from: sarah.... on February 22, 2007, 06:54:36 PM ---"Judaism doesn't prohibit pictures. Only graven images"
What do you mean by graven images Yacov.
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A carved image such as a statue.
Israeli coins don't have the image of a person on them. There are special editions where there is an indirect image of someone on them, but not like you see in England with The Queen.
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That is good, it prevents idolatory
Fruit of thy loins:
I knew a self-effacing Arab Muslim at university. He kept company with the whites and didn't mind others knocking his religion. The situation reverses when one is among a plurality of Arabs. Therefore it is insane to permit Muslim immigration because even the Muslim minority have a higher standard of living when they are surrounded by whites instead of Arabs. :(
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