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Here it States Chaim was chairman of JDL not Irv Rubin
« on: April 18, 2008, 05:58:29 AM »
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1968-71 - Rabbi Meir Kahane.
1971-73 - David Fisch, a religious Columbia University student, who later wrote articles for Jewish magazines wrote the book "Jews for Nothing."
1973-74 - no chairman. There was infighting until Rabbi Kahane returned in August 1974.
1974-76 - Russel Kelner, originally from Philadelphia. Formerly a US Army lieutenant trained in counter-guerrilla warfare, he moved to New York City to direct the JDL's paramilitary camp JEDEL, and later to run the national office as chairman.
1976-78 - Bonnie Pechter.
September 1978-December 1978 - Victor Vancier, imprisoned for bombing Egyptian targets in a failed effort to stop Israel's withdrawal from the Sinai Peninsula. 1979-81 - Brett Becker, originally from South Florida. He came to New York City to become chairman.
1981-83 - Meir Jolovitz, originally from Arizona. He also came to New York City.
1983-84 - Fern Sidman, national director.
1984-1987 - Victor Vancier. In 1985, Irv Rubin also claimed to be chairman but none of the JDL chapters outside of Los Angeles supported him.[citation needed] 1987-2002 - Irv Rubin.
2002-present - Shelley Rubin. (For information on a period of disputed leadership, October 2004 through April 2006, see Schism and its immediate aftermath.)
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Re: Here it States Chaim was chairman of JDL not Irv Rubin
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2008, 06:31:34 AM »
IRV Rubin was, for a short period, one of the ''National Directors'' of the JDL.

He was also in charge of the Los Angeles chapter for some time.


 



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Re: Here it States Chaim was chairman of JDL not Irv Rubin
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2008, 10:14:15 AM »
Rubin took over after I went to prison and Rabbi Kahane was assassinated. When Rubin took over nationally, only a handful of members remained in the organization. In other words, it was like Yekutiel and Revava today.

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Re: Here it States Chaim was chairman of JDL not Irv Rubin
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2008, 10:15:31 AM »
Rubin took over after I went to prison and Rabbi Kahane was assassinated. When Rubin took over nationally, only a handful of members remained in the organization. In other words, it was like Yekutiel and Revava today.
It also says in 1978 you were chairman
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Re: Here it States Chaim was chairman of JDL not Irv Rubin
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2008, 10:27:21 AM »
Rubin took over after I went to prison and Rabbi Kahane was assassinated. When Rubin took over nationally, only a handful of members remained in the organization. In other words, it was like Yekutiel and Revava today.

Was it an ''hostile takeover'', or actualy, JDL members voted for him to be the new leader?



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Re: Here it States Chaim was chairman of JDL not Irv Rubin
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2008, 10:56:05 AM »
Rubin took over after I went to prison and Rabbi Kahane was assassinated. When Rubin took over nationally, only a handful of members remained in the organization. In other words, it was like Yekutiel and Revava today.

Was it an ''hostile takeover'', or actualy, JDL members voted for him to be the new leader?




The organization just fell apart. The same thing happened when Rabbi Kahane left for Israel in 1971.

I went to prison. Ken Sidman, the great National Chairman of Kach and JDL chapter chairman in Boston, died suddenly of a heart attack. Irwin Block, the great JDL chapter chairman in south Florida, died of a heart attack shortly after Sidman passed away. And then Rabbi Kahane was assassinated.

Rubin then stepped in to fill the vacuum.

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Re: Here it States Chaim was chairman of JDL not Irv Rubin
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2008, 11:42:12 AM »

Rubin then stepped in to fill the vacuum.

So, he basically just wormed his way in.

Cool. Now we know.

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Re: Here it States Chaim was chairman of JDL not Irv Rubin
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2008, 01:58:14 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Defense_League   

1968-71 - Rabbi Meir Kahane.
1971-73 - David Fisch, a religious Columbia University student, who later wrote articles for Jewish magazines wrote the book "Jews for Nothing."
1973-74 - no chairman. There was infighting until Rabbi Kahane returned in August 1974.
1974-76 - Russel Kelner, originally from Philadelphia. Formerly a US Army lieutenant trained in counter-guerrilla warfare, he moved to New York City to direct the JDL's paramilitary camp JEDEL, and later to run the national office as chairman.
1976-78 - Bonnie Pechter.
September 1978-December 1978 - Victor Vancier, imprisoned for bombing Egyptian targets in a failed effort to stop Israel's withdrawal from the Sinai Peninsula. 1979-81 - Brett Becker, originally from South Florida. He came to New York City to become chairman.
1981-83 - Meir Jolovitz, originally from Arizona. He also came to New York City.
1983-84 - Fern Sidman, national director.
1984-1987 - Victor Vancier. In 1985, Irv Rubin also claimed to be chairman but none of the JDL chapters outside of Los Angeles supported him.[citation needed] 1987-2002 - Irv Rubin.
2002-present - Shelley Rubin. (For information on a period of disputed leadership, October 2004 through April 2006, see Schism and its immediate aftermath.)

Wikipedia is user editted. Yaakov may have even written that, so it is not a proof to wave to so-called skeptics / anti chaim people. But I believe the JTF version of events anyway. Archie's articles are good evidence of chaim being JDL leader, but I believed chaim before that anyway. And I had seen a ref on the net from one of freidman's articles.
And the article does not say  irv rubin was not JDL leader. So your subject is misleading. 
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Re: Here it States Chaim was chairman of JDL not Irv Rubin
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2008, 02:01:08 PM »
Chaim's current leadership qualities are all the evidence we really need to know he's telling the truth.