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Re: White Men Can't Jump And Black Men Can't Stay Out of Jail!
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2008, 11:20:00 PM »
Its true, although some white guys do have a bit of hops
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« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2008, 11:23:56 PM »
Many years ago I heard "white men can't jump, black men can't read".
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« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2008, 01:25:02 AM »
Based on what I learned listening to JTF's past shows, I am of the opinion that JTF should support Wesley Snipes in regards to this matter.

Snipes is a victim of Tyranny.

There is no law requiring American workers to pay Federal Tax from compensation earned in exchange for their labor.

JTF must support those unjustly persecuted by an out-of-control government.

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« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2008, 01:53:22 AM »
I disagree with the income tax but I believe that everyone should pay their taxes nevertheless.

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« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2008, 01:58:52 AM »
Based on what I learned listening to JTF's past shows, I am of the opinion that JTF should support Wesley Snipes in regards to this matter.

Snipes is a victim of Tyranny.

There is no law requiring American workers to pay Federal Tax from compensation earned in exchange for their labor.

JTF must support those unjustly persecuted by an out-of-control government.


What????  Are you high???   He's wealthier than 99.9% of us.   He's no hero!!!   I'm all for minimizing paying taxes wherever possible, but skipping out completely so he can buy another Ferrari is not heroic.



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« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2008, 03:20:57 AM »
In my country they waste the taxes in any way for supporting immigration and welfare. There is no need to be honest. I mean it.
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« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2008, 06:12:31 AM »
Re:  "...I'm all for minimizing paying taxes wherever possible, but skipping out completely so he can buy another Ferrari is not heroic.

You apparently miss the point.

Show everyone here the law requiring Snipes or anyone else to pay Federal Income Tax to the IRS.

You can not do so, because none exists.

And that is the point.

Now that you are aware of this, I should also tell you that Marxism is the ideology which believes that those with wealth are inherently selfish and antisocial criminals who must be taxed until their assets are as low as those with the least.

Perhaps you should rethink your position.

It could be the case that your contempt for a rich, overpaid Hollywood schwartze who gets white women is temporarily taking precedence over the socio-political and economic system mandated by our Founding Fathers in the Constitution.

p.s.--And believe it or not, the work of Hollywood film actors is extremely difficult, extremely demanding, unstable, unhappy, and usually non-glamorous.

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Re: White Men Can't Jump And Black Men Can't Stay Out of Jail!
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2008, 12:05:05 PM »
Re:  "...I'm all for minimizing paying taxes wherever possible, but skipping out completely so he can buy another Ferrari is not heroic.

You apparently miss the point.

Show everyone here the law requiring Snipes or anyone else to pay Federal Income Tax to the IRS.

You can not do so, because none exists.

And that is the point.

Now that you are aware of this, I should also tell you that Marxism is the ideology which believes that those with wealth are inherently selfish and antisocial criminals who must be taxed until their assets are as low as those with the least.

Perhaps you should rethink your position.

It could be the case that your contempt for a rich, overpaid Hollywood schwartze who gets white women is temporarily taking precedence over the socio-political and economic system mandated by our Founding Fathers in the Constitution.

p.s.--And believe it or not, the work of Hollywood film actors is extremely difficult, extremely demanding, unstable, unhappy, and usually non-glamorous.
Re:  "...I'm all for minimizing paying taxes wherever possible, but skipping out completely so he can buy another Ferrari is not heroic.

You apparently miss the point.

Show everyone here the law requiring Snipes or anyone else to pay Federal Income Tax to the IRS.

You can not do so, because none exists.

And that is the point.

Now that you are aware of this, I should also tell you that Marxism is the ideology which believes that those with wealth are inherently selfish and antisocial criminals who must be taxed until their assets are as low as those with the least.

Perhaps you should rethink your position.

It could be the case that your contempt for a rich, overpaid Hollywood schwartze who gets white women is temporarily taking precedence over the socio-political and economic system mandated by our Founding Fathers in the Constitution.

p.s.--And believe it or not, the work of Hollywood film actors is extremely difficult, extremely demanding, unstable, unhappy, and usually non-glamorous.

MassuhDGoodName?????, you have been scammed!  How could you honestly believe that there are no laws to compel people to pay taxes????  This is just so stupid that I have to explain this to you. but,  just for fun, here are the laws:

Title 26 of the United States Code is the most important statutory provision with regard to income taxes is section one of the tax code, 26 U.S.C. § 1. This is the section that actually imposes the income tax. It’s very simply written.

 26 U.S.C. § 1 There is hereby imposed on the taxable income of every individual . . . who is not a married individual a tax determined in accordance with:

[G]ross income means all income from whatever source derived, including (but not limited to) the following items:
(1) Compensation for services, including fees, commissions, fringe benefits, and similar items;
(2) Gross income derived from business;
(3) Gains derived from dealings in property;
(4) Interest;
(5) Rents;
(6) Royalties;
(7) Dividends;
. . .

Section 6151 of the code, 26 U.S.C. § 6151, says:

[W]hen a return of tax is required under this title or regulations, the person required to make such return shall, without assessment or notice and demand from the Secretary, pay such tax to the internal revenue officer with whom the return is filed, and shall pay such tax at the time and place fixed for filing the return (determined without regard to any extension of time for filing the return).

Theres much more, but its boring legal speak.

Geeh MassuhDGoodName, I better re-think my position, since you told me that I'm only against him not paying taxes because he is an overpaid Hollywood schwartze who gets white women.   Youre right... thanks for showing me the truth!!!!







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Re: White Men Can't Jump And Black Men Can't Stay Out of Jail!
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2008, 01:17:46 PM »
There better be a law for paying taxes, or else I want a refund. O0

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« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2008, 02:26:54 PM »
There better be a law for paying taxes, or else I want a refund. O0


HAHAHAHAH, me too!!!  ;D

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« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2008, 03:43:01 PM »
Sorry, Briann, but the U.S. Code is NOT LAW.

Nor does it define INCOME vs PROFIT vs anything else.

It is not legal for some unknown entity to write paragraphs stating that anytime anyone someplace says you must pay any amount regardless of itemization or facts, that you therefore have no choice but to pay as demanded of you.

Research the recent case WON by a Louisiana attorney who proved conclusively that there is no law and that a LAW must meet various stringent legal requirements to actually be a law.

Furthermore, the Federal Reserve Bank itself is privately owned entity, not a part of the Federal Government.

It is illegal to force American citizens to incriminate themselves according to the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution, so how is it the Federal Government demands everyone file a return against their will and be considered "guilty until proven innocent".

Sorry...you might believe that you're living in America with a Constitutionally mandated Republic, but you're not.

Don't listen to me or believe me...go back and listen to Chaim's audio programs archived, which state clearly all which I've written regarding this.

Read what each and every Founding Father warned ... that this country could never remain free if a National Bank and income tax be allowed.

So, perhaps you're not the patriot you think you are, and might should rethink your position.

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« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2008, 04:08:01 PM »
Sorry, Briann, but the U.S. Code is NOT LAW.

Nor does it define INCOME vs PROFIT vs anything else.

It is not legal for some unknown entity to write paragraphs stating that anytime anyone someplace says you must pay any amount regardless of itemization or facts, that you therefore have no choice but to pay as demanded of you.

Research the recent case WON by a Louisiana attorney who proved conclusively that there is no law and that a LAW must meet various stringent legal requirements to actually be a law.

Furthermore, the Federal Reserve Bank itself is privately owned entity, not a part of the Federal Government.

It is illegal to force American citizens to incriminate themselves according to the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution, so how is it the Federal Government demands everyone file a return against their will and be considered "guilty until proven innocent".

Sorry...you might believe that you're living in America with a Constitutionally mandated Republic, but you're not.

Don't listen to me or believe me...go back and listen to Chaim's audio programs archived, which state clearly all which I've written regarding this.

Read what each and every Founding Father warned ... that this country could never remain free if a National Bank and income tax be allowed.

So, perhaps you're not the patriot you think you are, and might should rethink your position.

Hey Massuh, you think you could get them to give me back my taxes from last year? I'd be happy to give you a commission, let's say 10%, if you can. Do you pay taxes?

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« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2008, 04:48:33 PM »
Sorry, Briann, but the U.S. Code is NOT LAW. 

What the hell are you talking about???  Yes it is law.  It was passed by congress, just like every other law.  I'm completely confused by your stupidity here.

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Nor does it define INCOME vs PROFIT vs anything else.

Yes it does.   Do you want me to include that information as well?  its really boring but I will

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It is not legal for some unknown entity to write paragraphs stating that anytime anyone someplace says you must pay any amount regardless of itemization or facts, that you therefore have no choice but to pay as demanded of you.  Research the recent case WON by a Louisiana attorney who proved conclusively that there is no law and that a LAW must meet various stringent legal requirements to actually be a law.

I knew you were going to bring this up.  The Supreme Court has CONSISTENTLY held that the income tax LAWS are valid.  Do you want me to include all this information as well?  Every once in awhile, a person will get lucky and be acquitted of criminal charges in relation to taxes. The burden on the government to prove a person "willfully" evaded taxes or did not file returns is very high. Tax protesters, like Tommy Cryer, have NEVER escaped having to actually pay the taxes. Contrary to what Tommy Cryer is saying on the Internet, HE STILL OWES THE TAXES.  Vernice Kuglin, another tax protester that escaped a conviction, recently had many of her possessions auctioned off to pay her back taxes.   

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Furthermore, the Federal Reserve Bank itself is privately owned entity, not a part of the Federal Government.

Yes, its privately owned like all banks, But what does that have to do with taxes???  Thats a whole different argument.

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It is illegal to force American citizens to incriminate themselves according to the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution, so how is it the Federal Government demands everyone file a return against their will and be considered "guilty until proven innocent".


What a shock... the whole 5th ammendmant approach.

The fifth amendment does not protect you from filing income tax returns. Income taxes and the requirement to file them are CIVIL actions set forth in law. The fifth amendment only applies to CRIMINAL proceedings. The text of the fifth amendment makes that abundantly clear. The following is the portion of the fifth amendment that applies to self-incrimination.
"...nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself,..."

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« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2008, 05:13:21 PM »
Just to clarify here.  I do not like paying taxes, and do everything I can to minimize paying taxes, but I think its not a good idea to tell people they dont have to pay taxes.  They may end up paying far more because of this, and even worse, they may end up having their assets seized.


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« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2008, 05:21:36 PM »
Just to clarify here.  I do not like paying taxes, and do everything I can to minimize paying taxes, but I think its not a good idea to tell people they dont have to pay taxes.  They may end up paying far more because of this, and even worse, they may end up having their assets seized.


Many years ago their was a popular trend to use a part of ones house as a church and become a minister. A friend of mine paid 200 bucks and got his ministers license from some schlock organization and stopped paying taxes. This lasted for about a year or so until the IRS started playing hardball with a few of the nuts who though they could avoid taxes and the fad was over as quick as it started. Pay your taxes the only way to put an end to confiscation by taxation is to elect people that will change the laws.
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« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2008, 05:58:23 PM »
Re:   "...not a good idea to tell people they dont have to pay taxes..."

I never have done so, nor would I consider doing so.

Everyone has to pay taxes, as required by law.

All I've said is that there is no law requiring payment of Federal Income Tax, except as "income" is defined by law, which is quite specific and excludes working people.

Everyone should always pay what the law requires.


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« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2008, 06:24:30 PM »
Just to clarify here.  I do not like paying taxes, and do everything I can to minimize paying taxes, but I think its not a good idea to tell people they dont have to pay taxes.  They may end up paying far more because of this, and even worse, they may end up having their assets seized.


Many years ago their was a popular trend to use a part of ones house as a church and become a minister. A friend of mine paid 200 bucks and got his ministers license from some schlock organization and stopped paying taxes. This lasted for about a year or so until the IRS started playing hardball with a few of the nuts who though they could avoid taxes and the fad was over as quick as it started. Pay your taxes the only way to put an end to confiscation by taxation is to elect people that will change the laws.

Yes, the IRS can be like the Gestapo sometimes.  They want our money..

BTW, Vito and the Loyalist Part and are very committed to reforming the tax structure, and reducing waste and taxes wherever possible.

Brian N.



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« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2008, 11:52:45 PM »
There better be a law for paying taxes, or else I want a refund. O0


HAHAHAHAH, me too!!!  ;D

I want a refund too ;D

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« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2008, 11:55:30 PM »
Right, the income tax was introduced in WW1 as a means to fund the war.  After the war, people could go back to reaping the fruits of their labours.  All of it!
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